Why are people so childish about their precious beliefs ?.

[Papoon]

Do I get a percentage lol.

You have to have a product people are prepared to pay for ! I write better lines than Eckhart. It cost me a lot in drugs, I need to recoup my investment.

 

[Papoon]

Believe it or not, I don't have a credit card. Come on, laugh

You can deposit directly into my account. No problem.

 

[psychoslice]

You have to have a product people are prepared to pay for ! I write better lines than Eckhart. It cost me a lot in drugs, I need to recoup my investment.

Na, I have already got it, and it coast me nothing, yea baby.

 

[Smart_Guy]

You can deposit directly into my account. No problem.

I, ah, don't know your account number!
I also don't know how to make international deposits.
And my English is bad so I cannot fill any papers to do it.

 

[Papoon]

I, ah, don't know your account number!
I also don't know how to make international deposits.
And my English is bad so I cannot fill any papers to do it.

You had your chance.

 

[Smart_Guy]

You had your chance.

Yeah
Um, chance for what?

 

[Papoon]

Yeah
Um, chance for what?

Now you'll never know. So sad. It hurts me too. ):

 

[Smart_Guy]

Now you'll never know. So sad. It hurts me too. ):

I'm sorry

 

[Midnight Rain]

Why are people so childish about their precious beliefs being questioned, after all there only beliefs, that doesn’t mean there true, or false, there just your’s, your precious baby. Just like our baby we don’t like anyone saying anything against it, and in fact we will even kill to protect our baby.

This mind set is the same with our belief systems, I feel that this is nothing more than the ego trying to protect itself, for the beliefs are made from the ego, and so need protection. If our beliefs were not from the ego, then we wouldn't need to protect them, we would simply let it go, no matter what anyone says, we would not care less, but the ego does care, and it will do anything to protect itself.

I feel that if we were not so into wanting to be right with everything we believe in, that the world would be a much better place. This whole world has been in conflict for thousands of years, all because of our wanting to be right, when in fact we are all wrong.

All that we can ever know is through our limited senses, we cannot know anything that is outside our limited senses. Because we cannot know anything outside, we can only know a fraction of what is outside, or perceived to be outside.

My whole point is that we really know nothing, and yet most of us think we do, and we are also so proud of knowing what they know, the more we know the greater we feel.

Everything we know is from conditioning and programming, plus genetics, we are really just a puppet controlled by the Source, or Consciousness. So next time you think you know something, remember, it was only because of your programming and conditioning that you arise to that belief, that is your conditioning to whatever you have been conditioned to, such as culture, you are not your culture, you are not your beliefs, you are beyond all that, you are the pure Source of Consciousness, the rest is just made up by the ego.

Because people are childish in general. This just strikes home really hard.

 

[mystic64]

Hey, yea I like that, myself I don't have beliefs, so anyone can question my supposed beliefs as much as they want to, I cannot argue because I don't know anything, I just share my thoughts that maybe right or wrong, my thoughts arise and are registered in my mind and then that comes out into this thread that I made, I had no choice in the matter, its all about having fun to me, busting bubbles and blowing bubbles lol.

Ya, I do not have any beliefs either. I am agnostic about most everything and the rest I consider real, not a belief, because I have a lot of experience with it. "I had no choice in the matter, its all about having fun to me, busting bubbles and blowing bubbles lol." I do recognize you as a fellow gunfighter, so to speak . I am the 64th fastest gun in the west and you are the 63d or better, so to speak . So I understand about, "I had no choice in the matter." One just has to know. And lets face it, in a short time we are up to four pages with 540 views as of this instant. Conflict sells newspapers .

I don't think that I can out draw you Psycoslice, because you have zero weaknesses and you are gifted at both the hard and soft approach . Humm? Destroying the "hope" of others just for fun. And you can do this because your personality programming does not need "hope". And, they are childish and you are not. So everytime you destroy someone's belief, a belief that gives that someone the permission to feel "hope", you have permission to feel superior. You then cause them to feel vulnerable so that you can feel power (safe). And of course it just has to be done for the good of all concerned . They are the childish and the creators of disorder and you are the adult and the creator of order. With compassion going by the wayside because of your mission parameters. And ultimately it is their fault because you are only playing a game anyway. Interesting !

 

[Kilgore Trout]

I find this insulting to children. Adults discussing religion tend to be less mature and reasoned than most children.

 

[psychoslice]

Because people are childish in general. This just strikes home really hard.

Yes its true that's for sure, and hence all the trouble in the world.

 

[psychoslice]

Ya, I do not have any beliefs either. I am agnostic about most everything and the rest I consider real, not a belief, because I have a lot of experience with it. "I had no choice in the matter, its all about having fun to me, busting bubbles and blowing bubbles lol." I do recognize you as a fellow gunfighter, so to speak . I am the 64th fastest gun in the west and you are the 63d or better, so to speak . So I understand about, "I had no choice in the matter." One just has to know. And lets face it, in a short time we are up to four pages with 540 views as of this instant. Conflict sells newspapers .

I don't think that I can out draw you Psycoslice, because you have zero weaknesses and you are gifted at both the hard and soft approach . Humm? Destroying the "hope" of others just for fun. And you can do this because your personality programming does not need "hope". And, they are childish and you are not. So everytime you destroy someone's belief, a belief that gives that someone the permission to feel "hope", you have permission to feel superior. You then cause them to feel vulnerable so that you can feel power (safe). And of course it just has to be done for the good of all concerned . They are the childish and the creators of disorder and you are the adult and the creator of order. With compassion going by the wayside because of your mission parameters. And ultimately it is their fault because you are only playing a game anyway. Interesting !

Wow that was certainty different, very nicely said, thank you.

 

[mystic64]

Wow that was certainty different, very nicely said, thank you.

You are a man that is blissful and prayful and the greatest rebel in the world .

 

[psychoslice]

You are a man that is blissful and prayful and the greatest rebel in the world .

He, actually I do see myself as a rebel, I don't know about blissful and prayful though, maybe playful ? lol.

 

[mystic64]

He, actually I do see myself as a rebel, I don't know about blissful and prayful though, maybe playful ? lol.

The problem Psychoslice is that you remind me of me , at least to a certain extent. Blissful is too dangerous to get trapped in and if the other person is playful, then I am playful. But for the most part I am just studying the "style" of those that I interact with to learn things that can help me to improve my "style", which in my case needs work .

 

[bain-druie]

Allow me to welcome you to Homo Sapiens Sapiens. As you can see, amongst our many great talents are "thumbs", highly developed frontal lobes, an increased likely-hood of brain cancer, and the all-consuming urge to make blanket generalizations.

Indeed. I do it myself, hence the use of the inclusive pronoun 'we'. Still, it's one of my personal absurdities that I keep hoping for growth in myself and other Homos.

 

[bain-druie]

Maturity happens when you start living without hope. Hope is childish, the only way to become truly mature is to not project our hope into the future, into some heavenly home waiting for us, to ne truly mature is to live here and NOW. Maturity is in fact not even having a future, its living in the NOW, for there is no other place but the NOW.

I'd agree if by 'hope' you mean expectations. Not to play semantics, but there's a difference.

Expectation is an attachment to a certain outcome; when we develop an attachment/ expectation, anything that might potentially disappoint it is a threat. Threats bring out defensive behavior in us all, which is totally natural. (Religious dogma is a result of defensiveness, methinks.)

Hope, on the other hand, can also mean something different from expectation; it can be a source of strength and motivation for the future, which we do need in the present. I believe you can learn to have hope without forming specific expectations, and that I think is healthy. It's also human nature; hope is notoriously ubiquitous, like a weed, sprouting up everywhere just when you think it's been vanquished. That to me suggests it is fundamentally useful to us, though as you say, it leads to unfortunate results too often.

'Plan for the future, but don't plan on it', is a phrase I tend to agree with. It doesn't eliminate hope, but it does eliminate expectation and attachment to outcomes.

 

[psychoslice]

I'd agree if by 'hope' you mean expectations. Not to play semantics, but there's a difference.

Expectation is an attachment to a certain outcome; when we develop an attachment/ expectation, anything that might potentially disappoint it is a threat. Threats bring out defensive behavior in us all, which is totally natural. (Religious dogma is a result of defensiveness, methinks.)

Hope, on the other hand, can also mean something different from expectation; it can be a source of strength and motivation for the future, which we do need in the present. I believe you can learn to have hope without forming specific expectations, and that I think is healthy. It's also human nature; hope is notoriously ubiquitous, like a weed, sprouting up everywhere just when you think it's been vanquished. That to me suggests it is fundamentally useful to us, though as you say, it leads to unfortunate results too often.

'Plan for the future, but don't plan on it', is a phrase I tend to agree with. It doesn't eliminate hope, but it does eliminate expectation and attachment to outcomes.

That was very nicely said, I cannot add anything to that, thanks for your wise words.

 

[mystic64]

I'd agree if by 'hope' you mean expectations. Not to play semantics, but there's a difference.

Expectation is an attachment to a certain outcome; when we develop an attachment/ expectation, anything that might potentially disappoint it is a threat. Threats bring out defensive behavior in us all, which is totally natural. (Religious dogma is a result of defensiveness, methinks.)

Hope, on the other hand, can also mean something different from expectation; it can be a source of strength and motivation for the future, which we do need in the present. I believe you can learn to have hope without forming specific expectations, and that I think is healthy. It's also human nature; hope is notoriously ubiquitous, like a weed, sprouting up everywhere just when you think it's been vanquished. That to me suggests it is fundamentally useful to us, though as you say, it leads to unfortunate results too often.

'Plan for the future, but don't plan on it', is a phrase I tend to agree with. It doesn't eliminate hope, but it does eliminate expectation and attachment to outcomes.

Expectation does mess with the majik, there is no getting around that . And I think that hope softens one's approach to the possible fulfillment of one's desires by creating the qualities of humility and vulnerability. These two qualities enhance the majik. But Psycoslice does not understand this because there is no majik in his mind reality.