Why are so Many Democrats and those on the Left Against an African Immigrant Owning Twitter?

[NArdas]

What is it? You'd think they would be applauding an African immigrant that got Ivy league educated and now leads one of the biggest social media companies in the world, It seems this African immigrant has realized the American dream yet so many want to decry him for championing free speech, it's just weird. Is it bigotry?

 

[The Hammer]

What is it? You'd think they would be applauding an African immigrant that got Ivy league educated and now leads one of the biggest social media companies in the world, It seems this African immigrant has realized the American dream yet so many want to decry him for championing free speech, it's just weird. Is it bigotry?

Wow.

I've never seen so much racism in a single thread title before. Cool.

 

[Aštra’el]

Elon Musk is probably the most brilliant African-American who ever lived.

 

[ADigitalArtist]

If anyone actually think he's a self made man or that he's a champion of free speech, I have some dogecoin to sell them.

 

[Father Heathen]

Cute.

But seriously, I don't care either way.
I'm very pro freedom of speech, and I believe that education and critical thinking should be used to combat bigotry or disinformation, not censorship.
That said, Twitter is a business, not the government, and should have the right to allow or restrict what's said on its own platform.
If you owned a business and an employee was driving away customers by insulting them, would you refuse to fire them because of "free speech"? Or if you're a Christian, would you allow a Satanist to barge into your church and give a sermon because of "free speech"?
Anyhow, Twitter has been a toxic turd regardless.
I don't mind Musk. I don't agree with everything he does or says, but he supports green business, space exploration, and cannabis legalization, which I view as positives.
Skeptical about crypto (have some dogecoins from a BK promo, though. lol) and especially about NFTs, though.

Edit: typos aplenty.

 

[ADigitalArtist]

Elon Musk is probably the most brilliant African-American who ever lived.

That's not what that word means. African American is an ethnic group, not a nationality. Just like a black person from the caucus region of Europe isn't called caucasian. Nationality is a specific country, which Africa is not. Elon is specifically a naturalized American who emigrated out of South Africa.

As for his brilliance. Well, people have been taken in by dumber louts.

 

[Debater Slayer]

That's not what that word means. African American is an ethnic group, not a nationality. Just like a black person from the caucus region of Europe isn't called caucasian. Nationality is a specific country, which Africa is not. Elon is specifically a naturalized American who emigrated out of South Africa.

As for his brilliance. Well, people have been taken in by dumber louts.

I've long found the distinction blurry at times, myself. If an Egyptian became a naturalized American citizen, would they be considered an Arab-American or an African-American?

 

[Aštra’el]

That's not what that word means. African American is an ethnic group, not a nationality. Just like a black person from the caucus region of Europe isn't called caucasian. Nationality is a specific country, which Africa is not. Elon is specifically a naturalized American who emigrated out of South Africa.

As for his brilliance. Well, people have been taken in by dumber louts.

The term “African-American” has multiple meanings. It can mean black Americans, or it can mean Americans who immigrated here from Africa, regardless of their skin color.

Elon Musk could accurately be described as an African-American, whether you like it or not.

 

[Stevicus]

I've long found the distinction blurry at times, myself. If an Egyptian became a naturalized American citizen, would they be considered an Arab-American or an African-American?

I think it's a consequence of people trying to play around with semantics and not considering all the angles. I still chuckle about a correspondent many years ago saying "African-Americans from all over the world are celebrating the birthday of Nelson Mandela!"

As to your question, if an Egyptian becomes an American citizen, they could just be "American" or "Egyptian-American."

 

[ADigitalArtist]

I've long found the distinction blurry at times, myself. If an Egyptian became a naturalized American citizen, would they be considered an Arab-American or an African-American?

The term African American was coined as an ethnic group of black Americans whose African heritage is unknown due to the slave trade. While someone might call you African American because some beople incorrectly colloquially refer to anyone black (or appearing black) in America as African American (much to the humor of my friend who is indigenous Australian living in America), you'd probably be referred to as Arab American (no hyphen, hyphens are used for dual citizenship like Canadian-American.)

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

The term “African-American” has multiple meanings. It can mean black Americans, or it can mean Americans who immigrated here from Africa, regardless of their skin color.

Elon Musk could be described as an African-American, whether you like it or not.

I remember people used to argue over whether to call Charlize Theron African-American or not. South African-American?

 

[ADigitalArtist]

The term “African-American” has multiple meanings. It can mean black Americans, or it can mean Americans who immigrated here from Africa, regardless of their skin color.

Elon Musk could be described as an African-American, whether you like it or not.

Sure he could be. By people who are incorrect. See Why are so Many Democrats and those on the Left Against an African Immigrant Owning Twitter?

 

[Debater Slayer]

The term African American was coined as an ethnic group of black Americans whose African heritage is unknown due to the slave trade. While someone might call you African American because some beople incorrectly colloquially refer to anyone black in America as African American (much to the humor of my friend who is indigenous Australian living in America), you'd probably be referred to as Arab American (no hyphen, hyphens are used for dual citizenship like Canadian-American.)

I'm not black; my complexion is actually quite pale. But I'm African by ethnicity and place of birth, hence my question.

Not that I care much whether someone refers to me as an Arab or an African: both are correct.

 

[sun rise]

The term “African-American” has multiple meanings. It can mean black Americans, or it can mean Americans who immigrated here from Africa, regardless of their skin color.

Prove it. Cite reputable references that show that your latter claim has any basis because to me it's pure right-wing lying like usual. Or are you being totally woke by claiming he claims to be an African-American?

[QUOTE="Debater Slayer, post: 7661386, member: 29781"\ If an Egyptian became a naturalized American citizen, would they be considered an Arab-American or an African-American?[/QUOTE]
Arab if I had to choose but really my understanding is that Egyptians are not Arabs. So based on the usual nation of origin hyphenation, it should be Egyptian American.

 

[Father Heathen]

That's not what that word means. African American is an ethnic group, not a nationality. Just like a black person from the caucus region of Europe isn't called caucasian. Nationality is a specific country, which Africa is not. Elon is specifically a naturalized American who emigrated out of South Africa.

As for his brilliance. Well, people have been taken in by dumber louts.

So a black citizen of France who was born and raised there can't be called a European?

 

[Debater Slayer]

Arab if I had to choose but really my understanding is that Egyptians are not Arabs. So based on the usual nation of origin hyphenation, it should be Egyptian American.

Many modern Egyptians have a lot of Arab DNA in their lineage. We're mostly a very diverse mix.

 

[ADigitalArtist]

I'm not black; my complexion is actually quite pale. But I'm African by ethnicity and place of birth, hence my question.

Not that I care much whether someone refers to me as an Arab or an African: both are correct.

African American isn't a term much used in academics anymore for this reason (the confusion.) Generally POC (People of color) in nost topocs unless specifically talking about black Americans of unknown African descent due to slave trade.

 

[Aštra’el]

So a black citizen of France who was born and raised there can't be called a European?

Of course he can. If anything the term “European-American” fits him better than the vast majority of white people here who have never even been to Europe. If he would rather be called that then “French-American” (both are accurate) I would take no issue with it.

 

[Debater Slayer]

African American isn't a term much used in academics anymore for this reason (the confusion.) Generally POC (People of color) in nost topocs unless specifically talking about black Americans of unknown African descent due to slave trade.

In terms of skin color, "person of color" would probably be a misnomer for me as well, since it's basically indistinguishable from that of many white people.

That said, while I recognize that sometimes these terms are needed and useful, I definitely think some people from all over the political spectrum focus too much on the labels at the expense of more significant considerations and cultural elements.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

Arab if I had to choose but really my understanding is that Egyptians are not Arabs.

You're correct. Copts are the indigenous Egyptians and they are a relatively small minority. Their language is a direct descendant of Ancient Egyptian. They're often persecuted and killed by Muslim extremists.
Copts - Wikipedia