Why are some religious people "afraid" of science?

[Spirit of Light]

The thing is with that is you're assigning an agent where there is none.

I know this sounds redundant but if god works the laws of physics, you'd have to describe which god that is.

It has to be a god that all can agree so when we decide if physics are a sign of god via the natural world, we are on the same page.

If not it's just from your understanding. Science doesn't work by that. It's biased. So, I couldn't see how God could do that. Educate the savage?

(By the way. Science has no disbelievers. If physics are actual signs from a specific god )a creator) our beliefs/disbeliefs would be irrelevant; it would be fact)

Maybe the word God can not be used in discussion of science vs religious belief?

 

[Jimmy]

Let's see... the same things that have happened before when faith feels threatened: persecution, suppression, crucifxions, burnings, exile, house arrests, gassings?

I said actually does away with religion.
Well since I said I’d give you one shot I guess that was your one shot so I’ll tell you.

A new religion would pop up

You know that.

Religion will always exist

 

[Valjean]

Without religion terror would still be among us, unfortunately, maybe worse so

…idk

True, but religion is known for creating terrors. Terrors of the unknown, of a wrathful and angry god, demons and devils, sins and superstition.

Not to mention terror of retribution by threatened people.

 

[Jimmy]

True, but religion is known for creating terrors. Terrors of the unknown, of a wrathful and angry god, demons and devils, sins and superstition.

Actually people like you and me who have conversations like this accomplish nothing like most of the conversations here on RF unfortunately. Anyway, one person says religion causes terror the other person says terror would exist without religion. Its ridiculous actually. Maybe you can help by sharing stories of people who are religious and changed but still remained religious and I could help by sharing stories of non-religious people who have changed but are still not religious. At least it would be a helpful conversation. After all people do change.

 

[Valjean]

My teacher in sufism always tell me, be skeptical, investigate find answers.
Sound a bit like science

Maybe -- but what investigational modalities does Sufism recommend? Does the investigation produce measurable, repeatable, falsifiable results?

Perhaps unfortunately, our shared, mysticism-based world-views are not really science-based.

 

[Valjean]

I said actually does away with religion.
Well since I said I’d give you one shot I guess that was your one shot so I’ll tell you.

A new religion would pop up

You know that.

Religion will always exist

You may be right. We'll always have to be on our guard. Meanwhile, progressive social policies and security have seriously diminished religiosity in much of western Europe. Maybe we should pursue this approach, to keep the threat in check.
What think you?

 

[Jimmy]

You may be right. We'll always have to be on our guard. Meanwhile, progressive social policies and security have seriously diminished religiosity in much of western Europe. Maybe we should pursue this approach, to keep the threat in check.
What think you?

Anything for the betterment of society’s.

 

[Spirit of Light]

Maybe -- but what investigational modalities does Sufism recommend? Does the investigation produce measurable, repeatable, falsifiable results?

Perhaps unfortunately, our shared, mysticism-based world-views are not really science-based.

Its the metaphysical inward science

 

[Jimmy]

You may be right. We'll always have to be on our guard. Meanwhile, progressive social policies and security have seriously diminished religiosity in much of western Europe. Maybe we should pursue this approach, to keep the threat in check.
What think you?

Maybe when/if all the religions today fail and a new one pops up you won’t have to be on guard. Maybe a worse one will pop up. Maybe none will pop up and things will get worse. Maybe none will pop up and things will get better. There are different scenarios reguarding future outcomes. Idk.

 

[Spirit of Light]

Maybe when/if all the religions today fail and a new one pops up you won’t have to be on guard. Maybe a worse one will pop up. Maybe none will pop up and things will get worse. Maybe none will pop up and things will get better. There are different scenarios reguarding future outcomes. Idk.

Its a pop up religion

 

[Jimmy]

Its a pop up religion

It’s poppin’
Probably in the year 2500-3000

 

[Spirit of Light]

It’s poppin’

Do you think the pope do poppin

 

[Jimmy]

Do you think the pope do poppin

He a poopin poppin pope

 

[Spirit of Light]

He a poopin poppin pope

Oh

 

[Jimmy]

Its a pop up religion

Nothing Will be Poppin until all our resources are drained and we have to go back to living off the land. Nobody takes pop-up religions serious now

 

[Jimmy]

Nothing Will be Poppin until all our resources are drained and we have to go back to living off the land. Nobody takes pop-up religions serious now

Oh wait a second I don’t believe that. I believe Gid has other plans
lol
Almost forgot there for a second
how silly of me

 

[Valjean]

Its the metaphysical inward science

Metaphysical and inward, true -- but not "science." It may be consistent with science, in some respects; it may posit some accepted scientific facts, but it's not a reproducible, measurable, testable phenomenon.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Actually people like you and me who have conversations like this accomplish nothing like most of the conversations here on RF unfortunately. Anyway, one person says religion causes terror the other person says terror would exist without religion. Its ridiculous actually. Maybe you can help by sharing stories of people who are religious and changed but still remained religious and I could help by sharing stories of non-religious people who have changed but are still not religious. At least it would be a helpful conversation. After all people do change.

Or I make my point that without sin there is no fear of hell and divine retribution.

 

[Jimmy]

Nothing Will be Poppin until all our resources are drained and we have to go back to living off the land. Nobody takes pop-up religions serious now

Maybe this question comes as a "shock" to someone that i ask since i am known for not trusting science
(meaning i am not afraid of science, just not see it as a valid way to answer certain questions)

But here we go...
1: Why are some religious people "afraid" of science?
2: Is there truly a way for science to disprove God or deities?
3: IF there is no "verifiable" proof of God, does that means God can not exist?
4: If science one day did discover Gods existence, does all religions fall away then? or does this part of science fall away?

God’s all in the DNA man.
Yeah man that’s where he’s at.
Ha ha

 

[Jimmy]

Or I make my point that without sin there is no fear of hell and divine retribution.

Lol
When I do something bad I feel like hell but then I ultimately feel better.

never believed in Hell

Nope