Why are suicide bombers almost always Muslim?

[Muslim-UK]

If we do not know, then surely it is at the very least acceptable to seek our own informed opinions by our means?

Sorry I wasn't clear in my post:

We do not have all knowledge, thus we can not know why a person died in tragic circumstances etc, but GOD is ALL Knowing. Rather than despair at perceived injustice around the World, we should remember no soul is ever wronged in this life, and death is not the end.

Isn't it reasonable to assume that if God wanted us to know better he would have the means to make it so? And similarly, that if he wanted us not to learn better we would never have the means to pursue that knowledge?

Yes I agree, if God hasn't told us something or limited our knowledge, we are encouraged to use our skills and intellect to resolve issues we face; Global warming etc.

 

[LuisDantas]

Sorry I wasn't clear in my post:

We do not have all knowledge, thus we can not know why a person died in tragic circumstances etc, but GOD is ALL Knowing. Rather than despair at perceived injustice around the World, we should remember no soul is ever wronged in this life, and death is not the end.

I respectfully disagree. There is no good reason to assume such things such as the existence of any deities, souls or afterlives.

We do not have all knowledge, but we do have moral duties that arise from what we do know.

 

[QuestioningMind]

They shouldn't, it is enough to just acknowledge it. Something that Turks refusing to do when it comes to Armenian genocide.



Lmao.... Crusaders didn't know much about Christianity either. Should i say so-called "christian" Crusades...



and muslms are not???

Iraq-Iran war... Wars against Israel?

Just a few examples... I can go on and post Muslim invasion of India. I suggest you look it up, it is considered by some to be the greatest genocide in history.

The reason why Islamic countries not invading Western Countries like they used to is because they cant. Western Countries are so superior to Islamic countries that if all Muslim countries would unite and tried to invade a country like UK or something they would be wiped out in a month or so. Just look at what Israel was able to do.



Muslim governments are absolutely horrible and repressive i agree. However i dont see Christians doing terrorism in Soviet Union for example, and they were really repressed there.



ALL major Abrahamic religions are like that. If you want a non-supremacist religion go Pagan or Dharmic or something.

"Muslim governments are absolutely horrible and repressive i agree. However i dont see Christians doing terrorism in Soviet Union for example, and they were really repressed there."

According to Wikipedia there have been quite a number of terrorist attacks in the USSR over the past century. I can almost guarantee you that at least some of them were carried out by Christians.

 

[YmirGF]

So practicing critical thinking by asking for evidence and being aware of exposure bias is bad? M'kay. Good to know.

Don't be silly. Your post was akin to asking for concrete proof that water is wet.

 

[Mohsen]

Wait.... what about the original suicide bombers? The kamikaze! Shouldn't they get a dishonourable mention here too?

 

[Spiderman]

Wait.... what about the original suicide bombers? The kamikaze! Shouldn't they get a dishonourable mention here too?

I was thinking of people from my lifetime. I'm 30 years old. I was also thinking about people who believe they will have eternal reward for it.

 

[soulsurvivor]

Why is it so rare to hear of a suicide bombers that is doing it for another faith besides Islam?

Without trolling, please explain why you think this is?

It's just always interested me that someone could think they would have reward in heaven for committing suicide and taking out innocent people in the process. It's just mind-boggling to me that anyone can have such convictions!

Why do such convictions come from Muslims more than adherents of all other faith combined?

The Sri Lankan Tamil Tigers, who practically invented suicide bombing, were all Hindus. However, their motive was political independence, nothing to do with their religion.

 

[YmirGF]

Wait.... what about the original suicide bombers? The kamikaze! Shouldn't they get a dishonourable mention here too?

When was the last time you heard about a kamikaze pilot taking out a ship? The point is, for the most part, suicide bombing has become synonymous with radical Islamic terrorists since the 1980's. Even there, like with the Tamil's, it was an isolated thing that wasn't taken to the world stage (taking place in many different countries), delivered with what is more or less the same message.

 

[Mohsen]

I was thinking of people from my lifetime. I'm 30 years old. I was also thinking about people who believe they will have eternal reward for it.

I wasn't. Because I am not going to sit here and entertain a doubtful narrative.

I've mentioned the Kamikaze already - who were Japanese military.

The Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam (LTTE), a secular guerrilla movement, were another Suicide Bomber group, and so were the Black Tigers. The Black Tigers were the world leaders in suicide terrorism from 1980 to 2003. That's well within your own lifetime. How could you not know about them? Or how about the Black Widows? they were a group of women fighting for independence in Chechnya who had lost the males of their family in conflict zones. I could go on...

But since you want to polarize this narrative so it only applies to the Muslims - would you be prepared to understand a very real fact? Namely that the victims of these Suicide Bombers have mostly been Muslim folk?

Since 1981 to present, 95% of victims have been Muslims in Muslim lands. You can do the digging yourself. Islam does not condone the act of Suicide Bombing. Yet the Japanese military did condone it. So did the LTTE, The Black Tigers, The Black Widows and other groups. And none of these were religiously motivated. Come to think of it, neither were the suicide bombers who identified as Muslim. Those were all politically motivated.

But hey, you're only 30 - and have a lot to learn about comparative research. So your ignorance on these matters are easily forgiven.

 

[YmirGF]

I wasn't. Because I am not going to sit here and entertain a doubtful narrative.

I've mentioned the Kamikaze already - who were Japanese military.

The Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam (LTTE), a secular guerrilla movement, were another Suicide Bomber group, and so were the Black Tigers. The Black Tigers were the world leaders in suicide terrorism from 1980 to 2003. That's well within your own lifetime. How could you not know about them? Or how about the Black Widows? they were a group of women fighting for independence in Chechnya who had lost the males of their family in conflict zones. I could go on...

But since you want to polarize this narrative so it only applies to the Muslims - would you be prepared to understand a very real fact? Namely that most of these suicide bombers' victims have mostly been Muslims too?

Since 1981 to present, 95% of victims have been Muslims in Muslim lands. You can do the digging yourself. Islam does not condone the act of Suicide Bombing. Yet the Japanese military did condone it. So did the LTTE, The Black Tigers, The Black Widows and other groups. And none of these were religiously motivated. Come to think of it, neither were the suicide bombers who identified as Muslim. Those were all politically motivated.

But hey, you're only 30 - and have a lot to learn about comparative research. So your ignorance on these matters are easily forgiven.

Then again, there is no overall Islamic authority that can condone or dismiss such acts. Yes, lots of Muslims speak out against them, but there is no central authority due to the fundamental nature of Islamic authority. Then you have Muslims like the Iranian leadership who have armed and funded terrorist organizations like Hamas and Hezbully.

Likewise, your Chechnya example is also flawed as it is a limited local phenomena that rarely comes to the attention of the outside world. And for the record, not that it helps your case, the Black Widows were Muslim females. Allahua akbar, eh?

 

[Mohsen]

Then again, there is no overall Islamic authority that can condone or dismiss such acts. Yes, lots of Muslims speak out against them, but there is no central authority due to the fundamental nature of Islamic authority. Then you have Muslims like the Iranian leadership who have armed and funded terrorist organizations like Hamas and Hezbully.

WOW. You really believe there is no Islamic Authority condemning Suicide Bombing? really?

Every single Islamic scholar I have ever come across has condemned it. As for central authority? Even the Mufti of the Grand Mosque in Makkah has condemned it, so has the one in Medina - and not just them, but their predecessors also. The oldest university in the world which is also one of the most established centers for Islamic Education, and a leader in procuring Scholars from within the Islamic sphere of influence - Al Azhar University in Egypt has always condemned it as well.

So when you claim - "No central authority" - I have no idea what you are entertaining. But to me it sounds like ignorance. Again, it can be forgiven. All it takes is a little education, and I have pointed you in the right direction. Ruling on blowing oneself up - islamqa.info <headsup

God bless.

 

[Spiderman]

I wasn't. Because I am not going to sit here and entertain a doubtful narrative.

I've mentioned the Kamikaze already - who were Japanese military.

The Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam (LTTE), a secular guerrilla movement, were another Suicide Bomber group, and so were the Black Tigers. The Black Tigers were the world leaders in suicide terrorism from 1980 to 2003. That's well within your own lifetime. How could you not know about them? Or how about the Black Widows? they were a group of women fighting for independence in Chechnya who had lost the males of their family in conflict zones. I could go on...

But since you want to polarize this narrative so it only applies to the Muslims - would you be prepared to understand a very real fact? Namely that the victims of these Suicide Bombers have mostly been Muslim folk?

Since 1981 to present, 95% of victims have been Muslims in Muslim lands. You can do the digging yourself. Islam does not condone the act of Suicide Bombing. Yet the Japanese military did condone it. So did the LTTE, The Black Tigers, The Black Widows and other groups. And none of these were religiously motivated. Come to think of it, neither were the suicide bombers who identified as Muslim. Those were all politically motivated.

But hey, you're only 30 - and have a lot to learn about comparative research. So your ignorance on these matters are easily forgiven.

No, I never knew about them. Thanks for pointing that out. In the news in my lifetime I have not seen a report of a non-muslim suicide bombers who thought he/she would have reward in Heaven for killing himself/herself and innocent people.

As I mentioned in the OP, it is the belief that one will be judged and rewarded for blowing themselves up that intrigues me and I'm wondering why those convictions aren't as prevalent in other faiths.

 

[YmirGF]

WOW. You really believe there is no Islamic Authority condemning Suicide Bombing? really?

Every single Islamic scholar I have ever come across has condemned it. As for central authority? Even the Mufti of the Grand Mosque in Makkah has condemned it, so has the one in Medina - and not just them, but their predecessors also. The oldest university in the world which is also one of the most established centers for Islamic Education, and a leader in procuring Scholars from within the Islamic sphere of influence - Al Azhar University in Egypt has always condemned it as well.

So when you claim - "No central authority" - I have no idea what you are entertaining. But to me it sounds like ignorance. Again, it can be forgiven. All it takes is a little education, and I have pointed you in the right direction. Ruling on blowing oneself up - islamqa.info <headsup

God bless.

A Muslim is under no compulsion to follow a ruling by any Muslim cleric. Don't like a ruling? Shop around till you find one you like. Likewise Shia Muslims do not follow what Sunni "scholars" say and vice versa. Besides, save your outrage for your fellow Muslims who are not listening to the rulings of the clerics. Perhaps you should be telling them rather than me.

 

[YmirGF]

As I mentioned in the OP, it is the belief that one will be judged and rewarded for blowing themselves up that intrigues me and I'm wondering why those convictions aren't as prevalent in other faiths.

Sanity perhaps, less fanatical tendencies?

 

[Mohsen]

A Muslim is under no compulsion to follow a ruling by any Muslim cleric. Don't like a ruling? Shop around till you find one you like. Likewise Shia Muslims do not follow what Sunni "scholars" say and vice versa. Besides, save your outrage for your fellow Muslims who are not listening to the rulings of the clerics. Perhaps you should be telling them rather than me.

Hmmm... I believe your ignorance may be wilfully induced. No offence intended. I say this because you seem unaware that every group has its bad apples - and those bad apples form a only a minuscule margin of the group. They are not representative of the group. Rather, they are the fringe which misrepresents the group. And that fringe cannot be reasoned with. Meanwhile, the media which you parody here in your posts, seeks to polarise everything into an "us vs them" and painting that "other" (in this case the Muslims) into something altogether inhuman and unjust. The irony tends to sink in when one visits the dentist, has heart surgery, needs an eye test etc and discovers the Doctors and Surgeons are more likely to be Muslims themselves.

Peace

 

[Pastek]

It's just always interested me that someone could think they would have reward in heaven for committing suicide and taking out innocent people in the process. It's just mind-boggling to me that anyone can have such convictions!

Why do such convictions come from Muslims more than adherents of all other faith combined?

They clearly don't understand the basics of Islam.
As you know and as it was mentionned suicide is a big sin.

We can also quote other verses about muslims between themselves (like shia-sunni) :

4.93 But whoever kills a believer intentionally - his recompense is Hell, wherein he will abide eternally, and Allah has become angry with him and has cursed him and has prepared for him a great punishment.


About the destruction of religious edifices :

[They are] those who have been evicted from their homes without right - only because they say, "Our Lord is Allah ." And were it not that Allah checks the people, some by means of others, there would have been demolished monasteries, churches, synagogues, and mosques in which the name of Allah is much mentioned.


And you probably saw on the news they also demolish mosques and prophets graves. (of Jonas which is a prophet for us)

They always have their own interpretations. The Prophet never asked to demolish any temples nor to kill each others.

 

[YmirGF]

Hmmm... I believe your ignorance may be wilfully induced. No offence intended. I say this because you seem unaware that every group has its bad apples - and those bad apples form a only a minuscule margin of the group. They are not representative of the group. Rather, they are the fringe which misrepresents the group. And that fringe cannot be reasoned with. Meanwhile, the media which you parody here in your posts, seeks to polarise everything into an "us vs them" and painting that "other" (in this case the Muslims) into something altogether inhuman and unjust. The irony tends to sink in when one visits the dentist, has heart surgery, needs an eye test etc and discovers the Doctors and Surgeons are more likely to be Muslims themselves.

Peace

Now, if only you knew me. Where I am, the media does not paint Islam as a boogeyman, but rather, literally trips over itself to cast Islam in a positive light. This is in Western Canada. Likewise, due to the fortunate lack of Muslims in Canada, our medical professionals are not likely to be Muslims. There are some, but not a lot.

Lastly, your statement regarding the "us vs them" syndrome is particularly amusing in light of the fact that Muhammad himself split humanity into two groups. The believers and the unbelievers and vilified the later to his heart's content. Now, that's irony.

 

[Mohsen]

Now, if only you knew me. Where I am, the media does not paint Islam as a boogeyman, but rather, literally trips over itself to cast Islam in a positive light. This is in Western Canada. Likewise, due to the fortunate lack of Muslims in Canada, our medical professionals are not likely to be Muslims. There are some, but not a lot.

Lastly, your statement regarding the "us vs them" syndrome is particularly amusing in light of the fact that Muhammad himself split humanity into two groups. The believers and the unbelievers and vilified the later to his heart's content. Now, that's irony.

No it's not. Being a believer or not, is a fact! Not an irony. you sure you know what an irony is?

 

[YmirGF]

No it's not. Being a believer or not, is a fact! Not an irony. you sure you know what an irony is?

Hehe. Well, I do understand that one of us has little understanding of what irony is and due to my linguistic dexterity, I'm rather certain it's not me. Perhaps my usage was a tad too subtle.

 

[Quintessence]

Don't be silly. Your post was akin to asking for concrete proof that water is wet.

Really?

That you feel that way serves to make my point all the more relevant, because this issue is absolutely not akin to asking for proof that water is wet. Well, unless you are one of those people who thinks that all Muslims are terrorists by definition. If that's the case, I truly have no words.