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Why are you offended?
- Thread starter Pah
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Aqualung
Tasty
I only get offended when people tell me it's wrong, and then tell me why it's wrong, and what they say is completely false anyway. Like they say, "Your religioun is wrong because you believe this." and we don't believe that at all. That's offensive because they aren't even taking the time to figure out what their beef is with the church, and then they don't care to change their view enough to think maybe they were wrong about that one part. That's offensive because it shows a supreme lack of respect for my faith and my right to follow it.
turk179
I smell something....
That is a darn good question, Pah. I would offer that some people may have a little doubt in what they believe. They profess that their faith is strong but in the back of their mind they have questions. Others may look at any accusations about their faith as an insult to their intelligence. As in calling my faith a lie is like calling me ignorant for believing it.Pah said:
jeffrey
â Ãig Dogâ
I don't believe it's just religion. If you where to belittle my religion, my car, my wife, my job, my education, any of the above, I would take offense. Just like if someone belittled something you believed in or where proud of. And as far as defeating my faith, it would not.
cardero
Citizen Mod
I have always wondered this question myself, especially when debating on the subject of religion. If faith is such a powerful ally then some people should be able to go the distance (to a qualified conclusion) in a reasonable logical religious discussion. They cannot and usually predictable emotions begin to surface and their faith abandons them. Faith, as I have repeatedly proven, has never had the quality of strength and endurance.
Oh dear; It looks as if I am the only one here who doesn't believe he would be offended.............
I beleive that, and was just questioning why I should not be, when it struck me that my religion has always had to be a private thing; something I cannot share. Put that way, I guess it makes sense.
I beleive that, and was just questioning why I should not be, when it struck me that my religion has always had to be a private thing; something I cannot share. Put that way, I guess it makes sense.
Terrywoodenpic
Oldest Heretic
As a self confessed Heretic I am never offended.
I suppose that if I wasn't so lazy I would try and find a version of Christianity where I would not be a Heretic.
But I believe, in the backwaters of our thoughts, we are all heretics to some extent.
Some would cover that by saying we are all sinners, but heretical view are not necessarily wrong,
They are Just beliefs that are not held by the teachers of your Faith.
As it is God and circumstance have placed me in the Anglican community of believers.
It is not my place nor my intention to spread my beliefs amongst my fellows.
If I am asked I will say what I believe, and trust in God.
Terry_____________________
Amen! Truly I say to you: Gather in my name. I am with you.
I suppose that if I wasn't so lazy I would try and find a version of Christianity where I would not be a Heretic.
But I believe, in the backwaters of our thoughts, we are all heretics to some extent.
Some would cover that by saying we are all sinners, but heretical view are not necessarily wrong,
They are Just beliefs that are not held by the teachers of your Faith.
As it is God and circumstance have placed me in the Anglican community of believers.
It is not my place nor my intention to spread my beliefs amongst my fellows.
If I am asked I will say what I believe, and trust in God.
Terry_____________________
Amen! Truly I say to you: Gather in my name. I am with you.
Feathers in Hair
World's Tallest Hobbit
I don't get offended. I get upset and tend to cry because people don't understand something very important to me. When someone calls my faith into question, it's like they're ignoring their friendship with me and putting their need to feel validated before my feelings. My path may be a lie, a piece of fluff, a crutch, a myth, or even heretical, but since it's my path, and no one else is walking it, I appreciate it if they simply let me be.
Green Gaia
Veteran Member
Eh, I just don't listen to people who say stuff like that. UUism gets blasted all the time from the more conservative religious folk out there. They don't like us because we believe in religious freedom for everyone, even them. 
Terrywoodenpic
Oldest Heretic
Feathers, Have a hug dry your eyes and have some frubals.
No one should question your faith it is part of you.
Terry____________________
Amen! Truly I say to you: Gather in my name. I am with you.
No one should question your faith it is part of you.
Terry____________________
Amen! Truly I say to you: Gather in my name. I am with you.
Bangbang
Active Member
I have never been offended by anyone that questioned my belief systems. I would welcome any remarks because I always kept and open mind and if someone could prove my beliefs wrong then I gain more knowledge that would set me free.The knowledge that I have recieved by research and logic freed me from the Watctower Bible and Tract Society. I currently ask people to prove me that god exists at all. I wish there was an all knowing,all good,and all powerful god but I know longer believe that there is. I would welcome any info to prove me wrong. I have been accused of being a Troll here. That does not offend me. The remarks are just born from peoples emotions and not facts.Pah said:
Bangbang
Active Member
I was not speaking of you. I was thinking about someone else. He appears to be easily offended and easily aroused to anger. His remarks are based on emotion and he refuses to recognise the facts. However I welcome his posts because they do inspire people to debate the issues further.michel said:
Fluffy
A fool
First I would explain to them that the way they expressed themselves is likely to offend a great number of people and therefore it would create a more creative and positive environment if they changed their tone without damaging their message.
If they reply that they intend offense, then I shall take offense. If they reply that offense is not intended then I shall not, whether or not they care that people might take offense or whether they take my advice or not.
If they reply that they intend offense, then I shall take offense. If they reply that offense is not intended then I shall not
, whether or not they care that people might take offense or whether they take my advice or not.
Bangbang
Active Member
Their tone is very revealing so I find it easier to know them.Fluffy said:First I would explain to them that the way they expressed themselves is likely to offend a great number of people and therefore it would create a more creative and positive environment if they changed their tone without damaging their message.
If they reply that they intend offense, then I shall take offense. If they reply that offense is not intended then I shall not
Fluffy
A fool
I agree with you but I prefer to force people to state their intentions as explicitly as possible so as to lower the possibility of a mistaken assumption on my part. I would hate to assume that somebody is being horrible when they are merely naive or tactless etc and then judge them accordingly.
Popeyesays
Well-Known Member
I am game for discussion of almost anything without taking any offense. In fact its a spiritual requirement of my faith to investigate the "truth" for myself and allow no one to do it for me.
What is occasionally annoying is someone tellin me what I believe instead of allowing me to tell them what I believe. There is a thread on New Religions which declares that the Babi and Baha`i Revelation are the same, and that Baha`u'llah is not the Prophet foretold in the Babi Faith. I have no objection to discussing this, but am slightly torqued by someone saying that my belief is one thing when it is not the "one thing" he demands it to be.
Regards,]Scott
What is occasionally annoying is someone tellin me what I believe instead of allowing me to tell them what I believe. There is a thread on New Religions which declares that the Babi and Baha`i Revelation are the same, and that Baha`u'llah is not the Prophet foretold in the Babi Faith. I have no objection to discussing this, but am slightly torqued by someone saying that my belief is one thing when it is not the "one thing" he demands it to be.
Regards,]Scott
Popeyesays
Well-Known Member
This is a reference of course to Jesus' words in the Gospels about the Spirit of Truth and the Comforter.Bangbang said:
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1 John 4
Test the Spirits
1Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world. 2This is how you can recognize the Spirit of God: Every spirit that acknowledges that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God, 3but every spirit that does not acknowledge Jesus is not from God. This is the spirit of the antichrist, which you have heard is coming and even now is already in the world.
4You, dear children, are from God and have overcome them, because the one who is in you is greater than the one who is in the world. 5They are from the world and therefore speak from the viewpoint of the world, and the world listens to them. 6We are from God, and whoever knows God listens to us; but whoever is not from God does not listen to us. This is how we recognize the Spirit[a] of truth and the spirit of falsehood." (NIV)
Baha`i's in particular love these verses because they are a reiteration of the advice of Abdu'l Baha and the words of Baha`u'llah. Anyone who follows the directions of Jesus will find the Baha`i Faith to fall well in the bounaries of a "true" Spirit.
Regards,
Scott