Why Atheism is Appealing

[outlawState]

Yeah that's still incredibly insulting, I think it is synonymous saying all believers have neurological disorders, and we can fix you.

A major problem with the Catholic church is that it does not and cannot distinguish between belief and unbelief. That wicked hate the righteous, that unbelievers hate believers, and vice versa, has been appreciated and understood in all ages. There is nothing to add to that.

 

[outlawState]

Fine, a whole chapter. A whole chapter on incest, not homosexuality.
Try again.

A whole chapter on incest? I think there is one verse on incest in that chapter. The verse imputes incest as a type of sexual immorality. The chapter is about sexual immorality. I'm finished with arguing with you as you have no valid point to make.

 

[Cacotopia]

A major problem with the Catholic church is that it does not and cannot distinguish between belief and unbelief. That wicked hate the righteous, that unbelievers hate believers, and vice versa, has been appreciated and understood in all ages. There is nothing to add to that.

Do I hate you? I am continually surprised by all the psychics in the theist community.

 

[Cacotopia]

If you are reducing yourself to the level of a bilogical species and forgetting that you're made in the image of God, it's your choice, not mine.

You do not definitively know that, and it is pure arrogance to assume that is the case.

 

[Subduction Zone]

A whole chapter on incest? I think there is one verse on incest in that chapter. The verse imputes incest as a type of sexual immorality. The chapter is about sexual immorality. I'm finished with arguing with you as you have no valid point to make.

Read it again. Perhaps I can help with the hard parts.

 

[Altfish]

Aldous Huxley:
Wanting freedom from sexual restraint, I think, has been a driving force in promoting Atheism.

So why did all those priests take up Catholicism?

You are showing a total ignorance of atheism if you think sex is anything to do with it. For some reason most religions do have hang-ups about sex between consenting adults, but less about sex with children.
Even Christianity's leading man was born of a virgin! How bonkers is that?

 

[shunyadragon]

I did not cite any "verse." I cited a whole chapter dealing with the expulsion & excommunication of the "sexually immoral" from the church, not inferring any discrimination between different types of sexual immorality. The particular type was quite immaterial. Elsewhere Paul makes clear than he specifically classifies homosexuals along with the sexually immoral. E.g. 1Co 6:9, as he also does fornicators, adulterers, effeminate.

I consider the issue of homosexuality not the major issue concerning whether one believes in God or atheism/agnosticism.

 

[ChristineM]

A major problem with the Catholic church is that it does not and cannot distinguish between belief and unbelief. That wicked hate the righteous, that unbelievers hate believers, and vice versa, has been appreciated and understood in all ages. There is nothing to add to that.

There is actually much to add to that, the majority of Christian sects castigate other sects, they hate believers who don't follow the same interpretation they slant of any of 200+ versions of the bible bibles they choose to follows

 

[ChristineM]

Ta

You are most welcome.

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

Aldous Huxley:
“I had motives for not wanting the world to have a meaning; and consequently assumed that it had none, and was able without any difficulty to find satisfying reasons for this assumption. The philosopher who finds no meaning in the world is not concerned exclusively with a problem in pure metaphysics. He is also concerned to prove that there is no valid reason why he personally should not do as he wants to do. For myself, as no doubt for most of my friends, the philosophy of meaninglessness was essentially an instrument of liberation from a certain system of morality. We objected to the morality because it interfered with our sexual freedom. The supporters of this system claimed that it embodied the meaning - the Christian meaning, they insisted - of the world. There was one admirably simple method of confuting these people and justifying ourselves in our erotic revolt: we would deny that the world had any meaning whatever.”

Quote by Aldous Huxley: “I had motives for not wanting the world to have...”


Mr. Huxley is saying he doesn't want to believe in God, specifically the Christian God, because God has moral standards for us to live by, but he wants no restrictions....he wants "sexual freedom"!
(I should've used past tense: he died in '63. His freedom doesn't matter now, does it?)

Wanting freedom from sexual restraint, I think, has been a driving force in promoting Atheism.

Comments? (No cake recipes, please...I learned my lesson.[Inside joke for @Sunstone ])

So you think atheists are idiots?

 

[ChristineM]

So you think atheists are idiots?

Many Christians do, its perhaps related to Dunning Kruger syndrome.

 

[Cacotopia]

Many Christians do, its perhaps related to Dunning Kruger syndrome.

Unfortunately I think 99.99% of the world has Donning Krueger Syndrome, especially if you have the internet in your pocket with all of its lovely misinformation scattered throughout the ether. I need to know X, read a headline, promptly goes to speak with authority about X while not comprehending it.

 

[ChristineM]

Unfortunately I think 99.99% of the world has Donning Krueger Syndrome, especially if you have the internet in your pocket with all of its lovely misinformation scattered throughout the ether. I need to know X, read a headline, promptly goes to speak with authority about X while not comprehending it.

I don't think its 99.99% but up there in the clouds somewhere.

 

[A Vestigial Mote]

When I told @ADigitalArtist she was an exception, did you understand the context? She said she'd only been with one person, her husband.

Can you say that? I can't. That IS rare!

And so it begins... the backpedaling. I see where you are going with this... claiming that you only meant the part where she had been with "one person." But you also need to remember your own context... her response was to your OP, which attempted to cast desires to be atheist with a desire to engage in mass-sexual-pleasure. Reading your OP, my intuition told me repeatedly that you were wanting to paint atheists this way with a nice, broad stroke. And to her point that she had only been with one person you said:

You're an exception, though, I'm sure.

Now... try and tell me that the context that the above quote rests in is that you were saying she was an exception among "ALL PEOPLE." that's not at all what you were saying. You were saying you were "SURE" that she was an exception AMONG ATHEISTS - the main group being targeted by your OP, and the group that this line of posting was STILL about.

And for the record, I have only had sex with 2 people - a number that includes my spouse.

 

[ChristineM]

Interesting that teen pregnancy in america is highest in the bible belt

Does is say more about sexual freedom or poor education?

 

[Cacotopia]

I think religiosity and a great many negative impacts in society are directly related.

 

[Bob the Unbeliever]

Funny. Sex and love are not the same thing.. love is beautiful - sex is ugly.

How sad. In fact, that's likely the saddest thing I've read all day...

 

[Bob the Unbeliever]

Are you saying we don't remove practices of immorality?

I read the correspondence, it all seemed open and above board.

Yes. That is exactly what is observed.

And indeed-- why not? Among christians, there is an instant "get out of jail free" card they can play, asking Jesus for instant forgiveness-- no consequences.

Is it any wonder US jails are mostly full of christians? Over and above their representative percentages in the non-prison population?

 

[Trailblazer]

The man I saw once when returning from school with his dick in his hand touching it and smiling must have been an atheist.

He could just as easily have been a Christian.

 

[Cacotopia]

Sex is indeed an awkward act. But I wouldn't call it ugly. More Amusing instead.