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Why Believe Jesus Never Had Sex?

Bob the Unbeliever

Bob the Unbeliever

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KenS said:
Really? Almost all? And how soon after the alleged events? 3 generations? 5?

When most folk cannot remember last week.... and this is the best work that god can do?
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The Gospel according to Bob the "UNBELIEVER". :D I understand you![/QUOTE]

Please edit your comment-- I cannot figure out what's you and what's not-you.
 
Kenny

Kenny

Face to face with my Father
Premium Member
Bob the Unbeliever said:
Nope. Accurate: The modern bible was fabricated in roughly 300ACE. Cobbled together by a committee of old men. And lorded over by Constantine, who was pretty much a pagan. He over-rode several of the committee's recommendations too. My favorite was his forced inclusion of the heretical book "The Revelations Of John" over the objections of nearly everyone on that "august" committee.


The letters were writing almost all within the first century and quite historically correct. They were placed together 300 years later and given the accumulated documents the title of The Bible

Really? Almost all? And how soon after the alleged events? 3 generations? 5?

When most folk cannot remember last week.... and this is the best work that god can do?
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The Dating of the New Testament

Here... but it does come from "bethinking" site.
 
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Kenny

Kenny

Face to face with my Father
Premium Member
Bob the Unbeliever said:
Another Liar For Jesus website, sorry. Not remotely credible.
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Fortunately, Bob the "UNBELIEVER" isn't a credible source to make that determination :D not to mention you didn't have supportive external documentation for that statement :)
 
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Bob the Unbeliever

Bob the Unbeliever

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KenS said:
Hardly...

Are you all for sacrificing babies and beastiality? And are you trying to deviate what this OP is about?
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On the contrary! In direct contrast to the dubious "morality" of the very ugly, bible? I think sacrificing of children-- babies or otherwise-- is abhorrent.

Whereas the bible not only condones this practice, it absolutely demands it of it's followers-- or did you forget about the many many examples where God's Special Favorites were commanded to murder an indigenous people-- including all the male babies? The females who were still ... ahem... "pure"... could be taken as property of course. In keeping with the bible's theme that women are property of menfolk.
 
ecco

ecco

Veteran Member
ecco said:
If you're referring to God raping an innocent virgin or committing genocide, that's not my narrative. That's straight out of your holy book.
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KenS said:
You are a good atheist that knows how to parrot the narrative.... but, fortunately, wrong on both accounts.
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Whose narrative do you believe I'm quoting? Please be specific.

Now, as to my points:
According to your holy book, god caused a world-wide flood that killed almost all humans. Is that not genocide?

According to your holy book, God, in the form of the Holy Ghost impregnated a young virgin to which He was not married. Is that not rape?


ecco said:
So you believe that 1/3 of your god is interceding with a different 1/3 of you god on my behalf. That's really quite funny.
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KenS said:
Not really, your spirit can be saying one thing, your soul and body something else.
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Yes really. You made the comment that Jesus was talking to God on my behalf. So, yes you believe that 1/3 of your god is interceding with a different 1/3 of you god on my behalf.
 
Jainarayan

Jainarayan

ॐ नमो भगवते वासुदेवाय
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Premium Member
ecco said:
But you suggest and believe that a magic man in the sky raped a virgin and produced a magic man on earth.
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It sounds a lot like the stories of Zeus and his mortal maiden conquests. It's also virtually word for word of the Hindu stories of the birth of Krishna, God on Earth. Except that his mother Devaki was not a virgin. And this was to fulfill a prophecy. She had other children before Krishna with her husband Vasudeva. And they were from a wealthy and royal family. But Vishnu, who is the supreme God to Vaishnavas, took birth of Devaki as Krishna. Then the story becomes even more like that of Jesus except for one thing... the stories of Krishna and his birth came at least 1,000 years before Jesus.
 
Kenny

Kenny

Face to face with my Father
Premium Member
ecco said:
Whose narrative do you believe I'm quoting? Please be specific.
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Atheists, of course.

Now, as to my points:
According to your holy book, god caused a world-wide flood that killed almost all humans. Is that not genocide?
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Is the dropping of the two atomic bombs, genocide?

According to your holy book, God, in the form of the Holy Ghost impregnated a young virgin to which He was not married. Is that not rape?
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That's an atheistic narrative. It is also thinking very natural.

Definition of rape
1: unlawful sexual activity and usually sexual intercourse carried out forcibly or under threat of injury against a person's will or with a person who is beneath a certain age or incapable of valid consent because of mental illness, mental deficiency, intoxication, unconsciousness, or deception (Merriam-Webster)

So.... no

(not to mention they didn't have a sexual relationship.)

Yes really. You made the comment that Jesus was talking to God on my behalf. So, yes you believe that 1/3 of your god is interceding with a different 1/3 of you god on my behalf.
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I'm sure that comment is going somewhere................ :shrug:
 
Riders

Riders

Well-Known Member
KenS said:
1) He rose from the dead
2) He wasn't made from a father and a mother but from God
3) No record of any sin where the sins of others are recorded.
4) It says He didn't sin.

But, of course, it is one's beliefs as Jesus said "Blessed is he who believes and hasn't seen"

Obviously if one doesn't want to believe, nothing will satisfy, even if they see him personally.
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Theres no proof he ever was raised from the dead. We would have so many written reports and records outside of the bible it would be unbelievable.
 
Deeje

Deeje

Avid Bible Student
Premium Member
I get the distinct impression that some posters on this thread, who probably don't believe that Jesus existed, have no reason to believe the Bible, and don't even believe in God, have a awful lot to assume about what they don't believe in :confused:......go figure. :shrug:

Who are they trying to convince I wonder?

I think they need to be careful about who laughs last. :)
 
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