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Why can't Evol just admit to Design?

gnostic

The Lost One
souldaemon said:
I just had a thought bare with me, ok.
johnhanks said:
I'll remain clothed, if you don't mind; it's the middle of winter, after all. But hey, you go as bare as you like.

I shalt not look. :cover:

:sarcastic Hmmm.....it has been 40+ degrees today. And right now, there's thunderstorm. I'm supposed to take out the garbage, tonight...should I risk it, and take my chances against zap?! :confused:
 

ruffen

Active Member
So, if the brain of God is required for the complex world we see, then by the same "logic" the brain of God (which must be more complex than its designs) must also be designed by an even more fantastic brain.

So, who designed the designer? If God could just come about without design, why shouldn't the natural world be able to do the same?
 

Simurgh

Atheist Triple Goddess
So, if the brain of God is required for the complex world we see, then by the same "logic" the brain of God (which must be more complex than its designs) must also be designed by an even more fantastic brain.

So, who designed the designer? If God could just come about without design, why shouldn't the natural world be able to do the same?


So how many gods are there then in that design business? And are we ever going to meet the one who decided to design designers just so she could mess with our heads for a while?

...personally, I think that humans were designed to serve cats, you know, opposable thumbs and all that works really well with litter box scoops...yeah,humans are definitely designed by cats...
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
So how many gods are there then in that design business? And are we ever going to meet the one who decided to design designers just so she could mess with our heads for a while?

...personally, I think that humans were designed to serve cats, you know, opposable thumbs and all that works really well with litter box scoops...yeah,humans are definitely designed by cats...
Or cats created gods to do the design work (something beneath cats) of such servants.
 

Simurgh

Atheist Triple Goddess
Or cats created gods to do the design work (something beneath cats) of such servants.


wow, all that bacon must be fueling your brain...you just had a brilliant thought there.

still, it is more likely that cats waited around until the the minions aka gods decided that it's time to amuse themselves and started their design business.

it's really simple, cats have always been and will always be the urcause, and gods sort of designed themselves for entertainment purposes, then they noticed that cats are high maintenance and started designing all kinds of stuff to keep them happy--and from shredding their faces--and that whole design thingy took off. now we try to explain it and so we invent religions to deal with the unfathomable, namely cat's minds.
 

ruffen

Active Member
So how many gods are there then in that design business? And are we ever going to meet the one who decided to design designers just so she could mess with our heads for a while?

...personally, I think that humans were designed to serve cats, you know, opposable thumbs and all that works really well with litter box scoops...yeah,humans are definitely designed by cats...

My guess is that it's turles all the way down. ;-) It just shows how silly the "complex-therefore-designed-by-something-more-complex"-hypothesis is.

If the universe is fine tuned, it's all made for cats yes. We humans are mere pillow-providers and food-can-openers.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
My guess is that it's turles all the way down. ;-) It just shows how silly the "complex-therefore-designed-by-something-more-complex"-hypothesis is.

If the universe is fine tuned, it's all made for cats yes. We humans are mere pillow-providers and food-can-openers.
I favor the multi-verse hypothesis, which allows universes with different characteristics.
Probability demands that some will be conducive to......wait....I'm being summoned...
....master wants to go outside & hunt.
 

Simurgh

Atheist Triple Goddess
My guess is that it's turles all the way down. ;-) It just shows how silly the "complex-therefore-designed-by-something-more-complex"-hypothesis is.

If the universe is fine tuned, it's all made for cats yes. We humans are mere pillow-providers and food-can-openers.

I favor the multi-verse hypothesis, which allows universes with different characteristics.
Probability demands that some will be conducive to......wait....I'm being summoned...
....master wants to go outside & hunt.

it is a pleasure to be in the company of such astute hominids. you may fluff my pillow and engage the can opener. But first, I shall indulge in a stalking exercise, the rodents are getting a bit uppity and the humans are in need of a demonstration of my awesome powers.
 
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