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Why can't God have a Son?
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ForeverFaithful
Son Worshiper
People need to understand Christ was Begotten not made of One being with The Father,
God did not change his mind in 4 BC, He was always a Trinity because "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God" John 1:1
God did not change his mind in 4 BC, He was always a Trinity because "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God" John 1:1
Renji
Well-Known Member
Amen to that.:yes:
Caladan
Agnostic Pantheist
Leaving aside the whole querstion of God... because it's not logical, and pagan.
If I believed in God, I would do it in the most naturalistic terms. the thought that God is a human personality is strange in itself. having a son seems like you model a divine family, a human household.
we might as well hang photos of Isis with the child Horus in our houses instead of Mary and baby Jesus.
simplification, perhaps. but the question itself does not elaborate.
also try to look at it in the historical sense. why would common Jews accept that one of their fellow neighbours, had a son which was in fact God's son.
if a baby was born in the Philippines today, and people claimed that he is the son of God, how would you feel about it?
Thief
Rogue Theologian
Closer to home....
what if your neighbor claimed to be a son of God?
Or is this thread altogether about the physical?
Caladan
Agnostic Pantheist
It is said that in ancient Israel there were many such miracle workers. people who healed the sick and claimed spiritual powers.
In modern Israel they might call them gurus or charlatans.
Thief
Rogue Theologian
Yes...of course....
But I suspect this discussion is intended to lean to the physical.
Most Christians would seem to insist...'paternal' action on God's part.
Caladan
Agnostic Pantheist
Let me say more about my previous post.
there were miracle workers, whether they were all the sons of God is perhaps a different question.
the Son of God is a theological question with historical implications and I tend to treat it like one. its possible that early Jewish Christians did not view Jesus Christ as the literal Son of God, we already know that Jesus is described as the Son of God to counter the Roman Emperor's divine status.
there were miracle workers, whether they were all the sons of God is perhaps a different question.
the Son of God is a theological question with historical implications and I tend to treat it like one. its possible that early Jewish Christians did not view Jesus Christ as the literal Son of God, we already know that Jesus is described as the Son of God to counter the Roman Emperor's divine status.
charles brough
Member
Sure, if something like a personal god (a theity) did or could actually exist and counter, disrupt and make absurd our whole scientific framework of cause and effect, then there is no reason at all why that "God' couldn't have as many son's---"spiritual" or physical---as he wanted wherever and whenever He wanted.:bow:
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dawny0826
Mother Heathen
yet he chose to have a son instead of daughter because it was culturally acceptable... interestingly enough jesus says love your enemies...which wasn't culturally acceptable but easier to accept for some reason...
Love...love...embrace the love...(I'm singing improv style)....
Breathe
Hostis humani generis
I my humble belief, the Divine is genderless, formless, incorporeal, and is all within the universe. In that way, everything is the child of the Divine as we are all light from that Light -- but nothing is the literal offspring of this Divine as there is no body, or reproductive organs for it to have.
tarekabdo12
Active Member
No, If God has a son so His son will have a son and so on. In this way the whole world will be controlled by different Gods with different opinions and so will lose its whole bond and complementarity and it'll be a chaos. Gods will end up like humans fighting each others and having lusts and different deeds and so the whole world will be absent. For a God to be a God, He must have all the good characters in a totally and utterly complete way so that His opinion is the best in all the faces of the decision. This means that any word or action taken is the best of actions and only the best. This way, God can't beget a son as the son will be the same as Him so there's no son, it's the original God again and nothing new happens. This is the concept of God, the most complete and nothing beyond or above Him. This is different from the Christian [human-fabricated] concept where the 3 claimed Gods have different entities and personalities with different views and decisions so can never be one and this model is refused by the Jews, Muslims and the old testament so it's false and fabricated by deficient human ideas into a dogma that wasn't already present before in the time of Abraham, Moses or even Jesus.
That's the opinion I'd said before.
That's the opinion I'd said before.
tarekabdo12
Active Member
No, If God has a son so His son will have a son and so on. In this way the whole world will be controlled by different Gods with different opinions and so will lose its whole bond and complementarities and it'll be a chaos. Gods will end up like humans fighting each others and having lusts and different deeds and so the whole world will be absent. For a God to be a God, He must have all the good characters in a totally and utterly complete way so that His opinion is the best in all the faces of the decision. This means that any word or action taken is the best of actions and only the best. This way, God can't beget a son as the son will be the same as Him so there's no son, it's the original God again and nothing new happens. This is the concept of God, the most complete and nothing beyond or above Him. This is different from the Christian [human-fabricated] concept where the 3 claimed Gods have different entities and personalities with different views and decisions so can never be one and this model is refused by the Jews, Muslims and the old testament so it's false and fabricated by deficient human ideas into a dogma that wasn't already present before in the time of Abraham, Moses or even Jesus.
outhouse
Atheistically
because barbaric ancient men wrote in such a mythical manner that it was common for a long time before yeshua/jesus that deities bore these hybrid children.
There would be no reason for a all powerful deity to have to impregnate a woman to give birth. He could have created another fully grown man like Adam
ForeverFaithful
Son Worshiper
That's the difference between Paganism and Christianity, Christ is God's Son and God incarnate. Not a new god.
Jesus is the only BEGOTTEN son of God, like C.S. Lewis says a Bird begets a Bird likewise God begets God, God makes men, who can become children of God (John 1:12) But he only BEGOT one son, Of One being with the Father, Who was, is and ever shall be.
Breathe
Hostis humani generis
Does that mean that, in your belief, God cannot have more than one begotten son, should he so wish to, or can he have two, three, or as many as he wants?