Why can't God have a Son?

[Father Heathen]

I've read topics asking if God (in Abrahamic religion) can have or "really" has a Son. Just reversing the question, based on your religious beliefs, why can't he have a Son?

Because the notion is unnecessary and silly, as is the attempt to anthropomorphize the concept of god in general.

 

[Father Heathen]

Leaving aside the whole querstion of God... because it's not logical, and pagan.
If I believed in God, I would do it in the most naturalistic terms. the thought that God is a human personality is strange in itself. having a son seems like you model a divine family, a human household.
we might as well hang photos of Isis with the child Horus in our houses instead of Mary and baby Jesus.
simplification, perhaps. but the question itself does not elaborate.
also try to look at it in the historical sense. why would common Jews accept that one of their fellow neighbours, had a son which was in fact God's son.
if a baby was born in the Philippines today, and people claimed that he is the son of God, how would you feel about it?

What he said.

 

[ForeverFaithful]

Does that mean that, in your belief, God cannot have more than one begotten son, should he so wish to, or can he have two, three, or as many as he wants?

As God has revolved Himself He is Three Persons, by His word we know that the next Incarnation will bring about the end

Had God chosen to do it another way, yes for all things are possible with God, yet it serves no foreseeable purpose in the plan of Salvation

 

[charles brough]

Son of God, we already know that Jesus is described as the Son of God to counter the Roman Emperor's divine status.

I was unaware of that. It definitely makes sense. Thanks.

 

[waitasec]

As God has revolved Himself He is Three Persons, by His word we know that the next Incarnation will bring about the end

Had God chosen to do it another way, yes for all things are possible with God, yet it serves no foreseeable purpose in the plan of Salvation

so what was the purpose, in hind sight, for the flood?

 

[ForeverFaithful]

so what was the purpose, in hind sight, for the flood?

The wages of Sin is death (Rom 6:23) Noah's family was given another shot, it kinda like Sodom and Gommorah in that the people had a warning but contiued in their sin.

 

[Renji]

Leaving aside the whole querstion of God... because it's not logical, and pagan.
If I believed in God, I would do it in the most naturalistic terms. the thought that God is a human personality is strange in itself. having a son seems like you model a divine family, a human household.
we might as well hang photos of Isis with the child Horus in our houses instead of Mary and baby Jesus.
simplification, perhaps. but the question itself does not elaborate.
also try to look at it in the historical sense. why would common Jews accept that one of their fellow neighbours, had a son which was in fact God's son.

If I'm going to base it on my faith, even if I (this is just an example by the way) reject Jesus as the son of God, we are still considered as God's sons and daughters (children),though this is a VERY different context with Jesus, being his only begotten son.

if a baby was born in the Philippines today, and people claimed that he is the son of God, how would you feel about it?

To believe in such would be contrary to my faith.

 

[Renji]

There would be no reason for a all powerful deity to have to impregnate a woman to give birth. He could have created another fully grown man like Adam

True. However since it is written in the NT that Jesus, "found in appearance as a man, he humbled himself". If Jesus is divine and he really wants to "humble himself" by taking the appearance of man, I think, it is good to start from the conception itself so that he would experience how it is to be just an ordinary person before being crucified on the cross.

 

[Renji]

Because the notion is unnecessary and silly, as is the attempt to anthropomorphize the concept of god in general.

John 3:16- For God so loved the world, that he gave us his only son, that whoever believes in him should not perish, but will have everlasting life.

Also, can't we be considered as children of God (but then again, it's a different context than just him having a begotten son) , considering his paternal role?

 

[outhouse]

True. However since it is written in the NT that Jesus, "found in appearance as a man, he humbled himself". If Jesus is divine and he really wants to "humble himself" by taking the appearance of man, I think, it is good to start from the conception itself so that he would experience how it is to be just an ordinary person before being crucified on the cross.

good counter


The only thing to say now is, alot of things are written in the NT by unknown authors who never knew or met the man himself or ever heard a single word pass the mans lips.

Its funny how the dogma of deification matches many previous concepts regarding mythical content.




I honestly believe in that time if yeshua was this great teacher of judaism that started a movement to open up judaism to baptism and the followers wanted this movement to succeed. they would have to deify him to gain following just to keep the movement gaining momentum foaward.



I think there is just as much credibility in his father being a roman guard as Joseph, fact is we just dont know nor will we ever unless something is dug up that turns the literary world on its end.

 

[Satyamavejayanti]

I've read topics asking if God (in Abrahamic religion) can have or "really" has a Son. Just reversing the question, based on your religious beliefs, why can't he have a Son?

My opinion is God cant have a son because god does not have a physical body, and if god can do anything then he can also kill the devil (which apparently he has not done yet) or make other Gods (who knows he probably has done that already), and God is infinite, OMnipotent, OMnipresent and OMniscience which makes the question of sons or daughters or incarnations invalid.

 

[Renji]

My opinion is God cant have a son because god does not have a physical body,

But he is powerful and has "created" human beings that does have flesh/physical body.

and if god can do anything then he can also kill the devil (which apparently he has not done yet)

The devil is a spirit. A spirit can't die for it does not have flesh. If there's a way for God to kill the devil, then there's a way for the devil to kill God too ("which apparently he has not done yet")

or make other Gods (who knows he probably has done that already),

But He said that "there should be no other gods besides him"??

and God is infinite, OMnipotent, OMnipresent and OMniscience

Therefore?

which makes the question of sons or daughters or incarnations invalid.

As his creations, why can't we be considered as his children?

 

[Katzpur]

People need to understand Christ was Begotten not made of One being with The Father...

Yeah, but what does that mean in plain English? If the Father and the Son are the same being, there isn't a father and a son at all.

 

[Katzpur]

My opinion is God cant have a son because god does not have a physical body...

My opinion is that God can (and does) have a Son because God does have a physical body.

 

[Satyamavejayanti]

Lawrence;2704221]But he is powerful and has "created" human beings that does have flesh/physical body.

Then God will also have a physical body, and I can bet you he will be Male,

The devil is a spirit. A spirit can't die for it does not have flesh. If there's a way for God to kill the devil, then there's a way for the devil to kill God too ("which apparently he has not done yet")

I Thought he was an angel? Anyway, that means that the Devil will always exist and is as powerful as God.

But He said that "there should be no other gods besides him"??

How self centred of him.

Therefore?

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As his creations, why can't we be considered as his children?

We can be, but in a metaphorical sense only, God cannot have a literal son, and if God creation are considered to be his children then there is nothing special about Jesus, and don't require to accept Jesus as the saviour as we can all save ourself.

 

[Renji]

Then God will also have a physical body, and I can bet you he will be Male,

Does not follow.

I Thought he was an angel? Anyway, that means that the Devil will always exist and is as powerful as God.

Isn't an angel a spiritual being?

How self centred of him.

As proposed by the Abrahamic faith, there's only One, true God.

We can be, but in a metaphorical sense only, God cannot have a literal son,

Doesn't that count?

and if God creation are considered to be his children then there is nothing special about Jesus, and don't require to accept Jesus as the saviour as we can all save ourself.

But because we have sinned against Him, he needed to send his son and have him crucified so that "through his sufferings, we may be healed."

 

[Satyamavejayanti]

Lawrence;2704292]Does not follow.

Don't follow, lead. Did not God create Adam in his image?, The son of God will look like God

Isn't an angel a spiritual being?

Don't know never seen one, so the Devil is as powerful as GOD.

As proposed by the Abrahamic faith, there's only One, true God.

No, theres also Jesus, Mother mary, The father, The holy spirit, Muhammad, YHAWA, and the Devil. All have followers and stem from Abrahamic faiths.

Doesn't that count?

Count for what?

But because we have sinned against Him, he needed to send his son and have him crucified so that "through his sufferings, we may be healed."

Why not come him self, we know he lives in heaven and cant do anything about the Devil, so what was the reason for this restriction.

 

[charles brough]

I think there is just as much credibility in his father being a roman guard as Joseph, fact is we just dont know nor will we ever unless something is dug up that turns the literary world on its end.

It makes sense to me. I marvel at how in order to justify anything I write, I have to base it upon a solid foundation of centuries of dedicated scientists methodically working to discover and explain the world about us. But those in this forum find it so much easier just to go back to a few hundred ancient scrolls and tablets now compiled neatly into a convenient Book and quote to us all the answers we need to know about what is important. It is so simplistic of them, so easy, so lazy . . .

 

[Father Heathen]

John 3:16- For God so loved the world, that he gave us his only son, that whoever believes in him should not perish, but will have everlasting life.

"You must worship and obey Father Heathen in order to receive salvation, or perish in eternal fire." -a passage from a book purportedly written, or at least divinely inspired, by god.

Well, I guess that's settled, eh?

Also, can't we be considered as children of God (but then again, it's a different context than just him having a begotten son) , considering his paternal role?

If god has a "paternal" role, it's one of an absent, deadbeat dad.

But seriously, assigning sex and gender to god is yet another silly attempt to anthropomorphize the concept.

 

[Renji]

Don't follow, lead. Did not God create Adam in his image?, The son of God will look like God

Image does not necessarily mean the "physical" image. When it was mentioned that God created Adam in his image, that could mean that God created Adam, patterned after his "goodness" ("And God saw everything that He created, and it was very good") or his own spirit that serve as the reflection of God, being a spirit.

Don't know never seen one, so the Devil is as powerful as GOD.

Does not follow again.

No, theres also Jesus, Mother mary, The father, The holy spirit, Muhammad, YHAWA, and the Devil. All have followers and stem from Abrahamic faiths.

No, every denomination, claiming to be patterned after the faith of Abraham all profess that there's only one God.

Count for what?

Reread my post.

Why not come him self,

If he will appear to us, we will surely die. That's why in the book of Exodus, God showed himself to Moses through the burning bush.

we know he lives in heaven and cant do anything about the Devil, so what was the reason for this restriction.

Only said by those who aren't reading the book of Revelations.