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Why can't people just leave the Jews alone?

MARCELLO

Transitioning from male to female
No, it might make you Saudi Arabian, though. Einstein was from Germany, thus he was a German. He also was Jewish, which indicates his religion.
Saudi Arabia was founded on... 19..... Rather than Paris,london and north,every part of europe was a sort of germany,you won't deny the facts,will you?
 

MARCELLO

Transitioning from male to female
No, it might make you Saudi Arabian, though. Einstein was from Germany, thus he was a German. He also was Jewish, which indicates his religion.
Sorry,but it might have not. Might you have been? I am not sure...
 

rosends

Well-Known Member
Saudi Arabia was founded on... 19..... Rather than Paris,london and north,every part of europe was a sort of germany,you won't deny the facts,will you?
What does that have to do with anything? You asked about being born in Mecca...Mecca is in SA so citizenship would be Saudi Arabian. Why do you go off in bizarre and unrelated directions?
 

Tumah

Veteran Member
Neither of them. From my profile it is clear that I am 40. Are you literate in latin alphabet? So it should be you lying. By the way,how come you say something like that? Me a liar? Then you are a thief.
Because I called you out on your comment, I must be a thief? That doesn't make a lot of sense...

I don't think there were any strictly Orthodox Jews living in isolated communities 40 years ago. So I think you were just trying to describe an archetypal pre-war Jewish ghetto and foisting it off as a childhood experience.
Wouldn't it have made more sense to try to prove how you were not lying?

Also, did you mean to question if I know how to read letters (Latin alphabet) or numbers (Arabic numerals) to determine your birthday?
 

rosends

Well-Known Member
Sorry,but it might have not. Might you have been? I am not sure...
Yes, I said "might." If someone is born in Mecca but in an embassy or other building that is considered the sovereign land of another country, citizenship would follow that.
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
Psalm 103:8 The LORD is merciful and gracious, slow to anger, and plenteous in mercy.

Agreed, and what about God still having a place for the house of Jacob within the Messianic age....Yet that doesn't mean everyone is even welcome in the house, if Yeshua is high priest.

God doesn't lie; not sure why we'd accuse God. :oops:

Yeshua didn't establish the ritualism; we can see much of that came after, as it does in any religion.

No of course 3 fingers point back, I know I'm a sinner; yet pure of heart. :innocent:

Eze 3:7 But the house of Israel will not hearken unto thee; for they will not hearken unto me: for all the house of Israel are impudent and hardhearted.

The other thing is, it isn't me saying it; it is the prophets of Judaism that declare it....It is just the comprehension that seem to be the problem. :glomp:
All you are doing is cherry-picking the warnings issued in the Tanakh and leaving the rest out. Secondly, you obviously have a double-standard whereas we Jews are supposedly condemned but you supposedly are not even though you admit you're not perfect either.

And if you actually were to do the research and look up the word "forgive" and its variations in a concordance, you would actually see that we can be and will be forgiven by God even without the Temple and also without any supposed mediator, such as Jesus. Where does it say in the Tanakh that Jesus or a Jesus-type figure would be "high priest" necessary for forgiveness? Chapter and verse, please?

Finally, since you do admit that God doesn't lie, then why not focus on the verses whereas God says that both the Abrahamic Covenant and the Mosaiic Law is "forever", "perpetual", etc.? Because of that, you must believe God does lie as he violates what He had promised.
 

MARCELLO

Transitioning from male to female
Because I called you out on your comment, I must be a thief? That doesn't make a lot of sense...

I don't think there were any strictly Orthodox Jews living in isolated communities 40 years ago. So I think you were just trying to describe an archetypal pre-war Jewish ghetto and foisting it off as a childhood experience.
Wouldn't it have made more sense to try to prove how you were not lying?

Also, did you mean to question if I know how to read letters (Latin alphabet) or numbers (Arabic numerals) to determine your birthday?
Sure I did not mean it, it is just one of the illusional things you have had. You probably have no idea about jews of orient,let me teach you about it,if you bother.

On the other hand, you can no way call me a liar as you did. This is called impoliteness ,whether it means something to somebody like you. I know it means nothing to someone like you,that's what you are.
 

MARCELLO

Transitioning from male to female
Yes, I said "might." If someone is born in Mecca but in an embassy or other building that is considered the sovereign land of another country, citizenship would follow that.
Lets ask this to the ones related. For your information,Mecca is hot as Jerusalem for me and it holds the same boringness.
 

rosends

Well-Known Member
Lets ask this to the ones related. For your information,Mecca is hot as Jerusalem for me and it holds the same boringness.
YOU asked about Mecca (message 306), not I. If you find it boring, don't include it in your question.
 

Tumah

Veteran Member
Sure I did not mean it, it is just one of the illusional things you have had. You probably have no idea about jews of orient,let me teach you about it,if you bother.

On the other hand, you can no way call me a liar as you did. This is called impoliteness ,whether it means something to somebody like you. I know it means nothing to someone like you,that's what you are.
In the comment under discussion, you said you were European. I think I can be safe in assuming that the Jewish neighborhoods in your area were also European...
So why should we discuss the Orient?
So far, you're not going very far in proving me wrong...

I would actually have little problem believing you (although I would still think you were embellishing and repeating popular antisemitic beliefs) had you said you were Middle Eastern.
 

MARCELLO

Transitioning from male to female
In the comment under discussion, you said you were European. I think I can be safe in assuming that the Jewish neighborhoods in your area were also European...
So why should we discuss the Orient?
So far, you're not going very far in proving me wrong...

I would actually have little problem believing you (although I would still think you were embellishing and repeating popular antisemitic beliefs) had you said you were Middle Eastern.
The average jews ,of course are not problem,of course, you are welcome at my home. You see, the problem is that,for a guy like me you can call me anti semi (you called me a liar,how funny you are ),anti of everything,although judaism is none of my business. You don't have to believe me,that's your business. It is none of business,the europe belongs to me and I belong to europe. But what about you?

Nobody can go far in proving you were wrong, find a next continent to survive in then,pls do not make your homeland in my place,I do not need you here,. You don't need me either. Stay in your ME. You know I am a liar,so stay distanced from me.
 

wizanda

One Accepts All Religious Texts
Premium Member
Finally, since you do admit that God doesn't lie, then why not focus on the verses whereas God says that both the Abrahamic Covenant and the Mosaiic Law is "forever", "perpetual", etc.?
Zec 11:10 And I took my staff, even Beauty, and cut it asunder, that I might break my covenant which I had made with all the people.
Because of that, you must believe God does lie as he violates what He had promised.
Isa 66:9 Shall I bring to the birth, and not cause to bring forth? saith the LORD: shall I cause to bring forth, and shut the womb? saith thy God.
Where does it say in the Tanakh that Jesus or a Jesus-type figure would be "high priest" necessary for forgiveness? Chapter and verse, please?
Where did anyone say about it being 'necessary for forgiveness'? :rolleyes:

As someone claiming to teach 'Christian theology for 14 years, as well as an additional two years teaching comparative religions'....You'd think you'd know that Pauline Christianity teaches the belief, it is 'necessary for forgiveness of sin'. ;)

Would hope you'd also understand, if Yeshua is fulfillment of Isaiah 53; then 'he is to receive an inheritance, which he shares with the strong'.... We are 'judged by his words', like a 'plummet line of righteousness'.

Yeshua has the guest list ('book of life') of people accepted into the Messianic age....

'This is why he was called 'salvation', as he would bring it to his people'....

Yet 'they told him they weren't interested'...

And now...Many 'Jews think the whole thing is a joke', with the 'name being made into a curse'; yet still many persist, rather 'than try to understand the marvelous case that YHVH has presented for them'.

At least that is the way i read the book, and it adds up quite clear...

So when it says, 'YHVH will make Judah and Israel a curse among the nations', and 'for all nations to come against Jerusalem'....

Scares me, as so much has already come to pass. :innocent:
 
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Flankerl

Well-Known Member
Saudi Arabia was founded on... 19..... Rather than Paris,london and north,every part of europe was a sort of germany,you won't deny the facts,will you?

What are you even rambling on about?

Switzerland was not "sort of Germany", it was Switzerland
Every part of Europe was also not "sort of Germany".


That is the biggest lie.
When I was young , a jew meant to me an opportunist thief,yet I am European. The jews were just lighter than ,by skin color,gypsies,there were no jews of blue eyes. I could not go to jewish neighborhoods in my area, just because it smelled awful. The chickens were everywhere,and they were always reciting something . There are always lies about jews in Europe ,einstein is not an example,he is swiss,not Jew.

Neither of them. From my profile it is clear that I am 40. Are you literate in latin alphabet? So it should be you lying. By the way,how come you say something like that? Me a liar? Then you are a thief.

No ,he was not, he was Afghani.The curly hair he has makes him Afghani.

Next (sensible)question ,pls

Sure I did not mean it, it is just one of the illusional things you have had. You probably have no idea about jews of orient,let me teach you about it,if you bother.

On the other hand, you can no way call me a liar as you did. This is called impoliteness ,whether it means something to somebody like you. I know it means nothing to someone like you,that's what you are.

The average jews ,of course are not problem,of course, you are welcome at my home. You see, the problem is that,for a guy like me you can call me anti semi (you called me a liar,how funny you are ),anti of everything,although judaism is none of my business. You don't have to believe me,that's your business. It is none of business,the europe belongs to me and I belong to europe. But what about you?

Nobody can go far in proving you were wrong, find a next continent to survive in then,pls do not make your homeland in my place,I do not need you here,. You don't need me either. Stay in your ME. You know I am a liar,so stay distanced from me.

lol you surely have some Problems.

So since you still haven't said it: In which country did you see these Jews with their stinking Chicken everywhere and where that one Jew said you were an "opportunistic Thief"?

Its a simple question.
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
Where did anyone say about it being 'necessary for forgiveness'? :rolleyes:
Read your own comment below. [see the parts below from you that I underlined]

As someone claiming to teach 'Christian theology for 14 years, as well as an additional two years teaching comparative religions'....You'd think you'd know that Pauline Christianity teaches the belief, it is 'necessary for forgiveness of sin'. ;)

Sorry, but the Tanakh doesn't deal with "Pauline Christianity", nor am I particularly enamored with it anyway.

Would hope you'd also understand, if Yeshua is fulfillment of Isaiah 53; then 'he is to receive an inheritance, which he shares with the strong'.... Yeshua has the guest list ('book of life') of people accepted into the Messianic age....
'This is why he was called 'salvation', as he would bring it to his people'....

Isaiah isn't any more about Jesus than it is about me.

You can obviously believe in anything you want to believe in, but you're simply not making any sense whatsoever. Your "theology" is shallow and amateurish at best, and your "my way or the highway" approach is truly pathetic.
 
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