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Why can't some people accept that the Israelites were black?
- Thread starter The Sparda
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You mean the Saphardic? Are you talking converts? Surely you don't mean the bloodline. The original Israelites are downtrodden and under those curses and shouldn't be in the land. I can't identify everyone.
Are you serious?
JacobEzra.
Dr. Greenthumb
Like a hemorrhagea
Drolefille
PolyPanGeekGirl
You're having a hard time understanding the lizard people. It's understandable you wouldn't want to recognize the cold-blooded leaders that are also our gods.
Wow the leaps he makes to get there are pretty strong.
I'm not bothering replying with a detailed analysis since you didn't appear to read anything else I wrote though. He continues to fail to connect Javan to blacks or to the original Greeks and his identification of Agag with Amalek and Esau is not terribly strong. Followed by his equivocation with all Macedonians as Agagites which the very text he's using doesn't do - Phil isn't called an Agagite.
(And again, no indication at all that Javan is black at all.)
If they're ALL brown, then where did the white people come from. And that Esau was "red" because the blood showed through his skin but his brother was not? Ok seriously this is all a joke right?
lol at why they took the books out of the bible.
I give up on you. If this is what you consider convincing, you'll probably send a check to a Nigerian astronaut prince tomorrow, so it's not worth it.
JacobEzra.
Dr. Greenthumb
Obama is still black like the "true israelites" and he runs the most powerful country. Therefore, even your illogical idea has a hole.
The problem with arguments which not only ignore but actualy reject logic is that you can't really address them with pointing out logical flaws resulting from their logically invalid deduction or induction.
Drolefille
PolyPanGeekGirl
I didn't see it, but engage in actual discussion rather than repetition.
No, he's not black, depending on your definition of black. All of the struggle in this country was fought by the descendants of slaves. They're the ones who fought for equality and opened doors for all others who aren't white. Only to hear other minorities come in to brag about how they're surpassing blacks on the socio-economic ladder. It doesn't bother me because they're showing their hand of ignorance. He has the "one drop" rule. Not everyone considers him a "true israelite". He's related to Dick Chaney. Sorry. Wrong family. I have nothing against him and actually thinks he's been a great President. But his family tree was made known by Obama himself during his campaign. He's Dick Chaney's cousin.
JacobEzra.
Dr. Greenthumb
All the baseless allegations youv failed to prove?
JacobEzra.
Dr. Greenthumb
LOL! Dick Chaneys cousin. Well illbe dang tootin flootin flabbbergasted!
And you've failed to prove they're false.
Again, based on your posts you don't know or understand the history or the covenant between the Most High and his people, Israel. Obama himself admitted that he was not a descendant of slavery but he understands it through his wife, Michelle, who is.
Rakhel
Well-Known Member
I have been reading parts of Snoden's book Blacks in Antiquities which can be found on Google. (which seems to be no more than what the guy in the video did) however, upon actually reading a few of these pages, no where does it say that black were the original Greeks. In fact it says quite the opposite. Snoden's book calls Ethiopians refugees on page 157.
cablescavenger
Well-Known Member
I wouldn't use the bible is an historical account of anything.
arcanum
Active Member
The argument that the the original Hebrews and Greeks were black is more wishful thinking than anything close to reality. We have Egyptian art that depicts various peoples who were their subjects including Canaanites and Hebrews, definitely not black. And you have ever been to the Athens museum? I have, I saw only one object in which portrayed a black person, it was a small sculpture of an African and the features were very exaggerated as their was no mistaking it was of an African tribesman. It wasn't portraying one of them but someone other than them who they had come in contact with. All the other artwork portrayed the people of Greece themselves as very European looking. Those who want to believe this nonsense because it makes them feel special can go ahead, but historically it does not reflect reality.
JacobEzra.
Dr. Greenthumb
Wouldn't Black Americans claiming another's heritage and accomplishments actually be an insult to ones own ancestors who accomplished great things?
metis
aged ecumenical anthropologist
Israel currently and historically is at a crossroads for three continents, therefore there is a mixture of many different nationalities found within. Generally speaking, we are generally classified as being "semitic", which is not a race and, genetically speaking based on the genome testing, we are closely related to the "Arabic" population in the same area, especially the Syrians and "Palestinians" (most Palestinians are genetically/historically mostly Syrian).