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why cant we all just be right?

Gabriel_Woodard

New Member
All religions say they are right, right? Well I would like to ask a question… is it possible for every belief / way of life / whatever… to be right? And doesn’t everything, from Christianity to a moral atheist have pretty much the same core beliefs in regards of how to treat other people (not about a god of course). So whats the real difference?
 

turk179

I smell something....
Gabriel_Woodard said:
All religions say they are right, right? Well I would like to ask a question… is it possible for every belief / way of life / whatever… to be right? And doesn’t everything, from Christianity to a moral atheist have pretty much the same core beliefs in regards of how to treat other people (not about a god of course). So whats the real difference?
That is a good question and to an extent I agree with you. I believe that the constant in most religions is the belief in a higher power whether it be monotheistic or polytheistic. The main difference comes from how you choose to interpret and follow that faith. All in all I believe that everyone is worshiping the same force of nature.
 

ChrisP

Veteran Member
Aqualung said:
why can't we all be the tallest.
Because there's noone taller than me :p

We can't all be right, because noone is ever completely right. So we're all always not right/not wrong. Dualism is t3h Awesome sauce. I love absolute/nonabsolutes hahahaha!
 

linwood

Well-Known Member
Gabriel_Woodard said:
And doesn’t everything, from Christianity to a moral atheist have pretty much the same core beliefs in regards of how to treat other people (not about a god of course). So whats the real difference?
The difference is that everything from Christianity to Atheism do not support the same core beliefs in how to treat people.
Your need to define "moral" atheism is telling in this respect, notice you didn`t say "moral" Christianity because I assume you believe Christianity comes boxed with good morality.

A great number of Christians believe homosexuals shouldn`t have the same rights they do.
hell, a great deal of Christians believe atheists shouldn`t have the same rights they do.

They are diametrically opposed and this is why we can`t all be "right".
 

Buttons*

Glass half Panda'd
*sigh* I wish I knew...

I've always hoped that people will someday come to the realization that we're living for a common goal, and that selfishness, fear, ignorance needs to stop. Religions have been created for the purpose of governing nations, attempting to change the ways of civility, and to open people's hearts to the world's beautiful mysteries.

I feel, personally, that each and every religion with its root in love/understanding has merit. People will always have view things differently, as ChrisP said... so we'll never actually attain a global peace or understanding. Dismal as I make it sound, there's hope for the people who want to make this world a better place irregaurdless of religious or non-religious prefrence. We're all trying to make this life, and make it worth while.

I wish we could all just wake up from our ignorance and live how we're supposed to, with love in our hearts for everything, and an inquisitive, child-like mind. Find our common ground, and just be.

... i should really stop smoking the peace pipe *smiles*
 

gnostic

The Lost One
The sad truth is we are not meant to have it easy, comfortable, let alone peaceful.

If you look at monotheism for a moment, you would find these 3 religions, Judaism, Christianity and Islam, have several aspects in common, but they are divided by their interpretations, their degree of literalism and their preference in prophets, and so on.

The main problem with the last two religions is they can't help themselves (which they both have in common) is that they must interfere with other people's lives, lives that necessary follow either one of these two religions anyway. Until they can respect others for going their way, or respect to each other, we'll never peace.

And the other problem is that they think they are doing this for our good.

The difference between Judaism and the other two is that Judaism have no interest in converting Christians or Muslims from their respective religions. That's point in Judaism's favour, and points against Christianity and Islam; they think it is their duty to convert the whole world.
 

gnostic

The Lost One
The sad truth is we are not meant to have it easy, comfortable, let alone peaceful.

If you look at monotheism for a moment, you would find these 3 religions, Judaism, Christianity and Islam, have several aspects in common, but they are divided by their interpretations, their degree of literalism and their preference in prophets, and so on.

The main problem with the last two religions is they can't help themselves (which they both have in common) is that they must interfere with other people's lives, lives that necessary follow either one of these two religions anyway. Until they can respect others for going their way, or respect to each other, we'll never peace.

And the other problem is that they think they are doing this for our good.

The difference between Judaism and the other two is that Judaism have no interest in converting Christians or Muslims from their respective religions. That's point in Judaism's favour, and a point each against Christianity and Islam; they think it is their solemn duties to convert the whole world.
 
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angellous_evangellous

Guest
Gabriel_Woodard said:
All religions say they are right, right? Well I would like to ask a question… is it possible for every belief / way of life / whatever… to be right? And doesn’t everything, from Christianity to a moral atheist have pretty much the same core beliefs in regards of how to treat other people (not about a god of course). So whats the real difference?
Because we say stuff that is mutually exclusive.

If anyone creates a new religion, angellous wants a holy harem. Hot babes, cold beer, and a steady supply of beer and pizza. Keep it com'in. Religion ROCKS!

Ritualize that, baby! All you have to do is come up with a myth and ritual, and try and explain why it's right or wrong to ritualize my fantasy, and BLAM you've got the rationale for why some religions are wrong.
 

Gabriel_Woodard

New Member
I made a mistake when I said moral atheist and not moral christian, I didn't make the assumption that all christians where moral, in fact I believe that the majority of christiains are not which is not a let down on christians because i believe a majority of people with a core belief centered around written ruels which cannot be bent or broken without fear of going to hell are not moral. sorry for my mistake
 

spookboy0

Member
Gabriel_Woodard said:
All religions say they are right, right? Well I would like to ask a question… is it possible for every belief / way of life / whatever… to be right?
No it's not possible. The word "right" in terms of correctness comes only from comparison. How would we know if something is right if we don't have anything to compare it to? There has to be one right thing and whatever isn't right is, by deduction and common sense, wrong.
 

linwood

Well-Known Member
Gabriel_Woodard said:
sorry for my mistake
You know what Gabriel?

It`s my mistake as well, I shouldn`t have jumped down your throat as I did and I apologise for that.

Your intent and the OP of this thread shows you`re just trying to make sense of the whole thing like the rest of us.

I`m sorry.
 

jazzalta

Member
I like what the great Sociologist Joseph Campbell had to say about all the faiths he had studied. He said (and I'm paraphrasing) that all religions had two things in common: be good to people and not judge them. I like to think we'd all be better off if we could adhere to just those 2 things.
 

BucephalusBB

ABACABB
Divine Androgyne said:
I often wondered; What if we all create our own realities, our own god(s) or lack of them, our own heaven or hell?
That would follow in the footsteps of emulation. The thought that it is not the world that is real, but the thought itself. This can mean that only your (mine now) thought exists, and so only your religion, or every thought and so every religion can indeed be correct (or all wrong)

It could also follow the footsteps of quantum physics meaning the way you interpretate this world. As everybody does it in a different way, all religions could be true, but only per person.
 

Mike182

Flaming Queer
Gabriel_Woodard said:
All religions say they are right, right?
no, my religion is right for me, but not for others

Well I would like to ask a question… is it possible for every belief / way of life / whatever… to be right? And doesn’t everything, from Christianity to a moral atheist have pretty much the same core beliefs in regards of how to treat other people (not about a god of course). So whats the real difference?
well, yes and no - i guess in principle most religions agree that we should treat everyone with kindness and respect........ but i believe that morality has evolved, and will continue to evolve - i do not think morality is directly linked to religion/deity

so then, for me atleast, religion comes down to how i want to worship deity

i see deity as a bycle wheel - there are lots of spokes but all of them go through the centre. all forms and manifestations of deity come from the one source, the one higher god - all religions worship this one incomprehendible higher god in various ways

so you see, although i respect the differences between religions, i do see all of them as being right

blessed be
mike
 
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