Why Commemorate the Death of Jesus?

[sojourner]

No one knows. Maybe he never existed? I mean the greatest event (the Salvation of Humankind) and no one can date it.

Interesting.

Salvation wasn't effected with Jesus' death.

 

[sojourner]

Imho is the most significant day in the christian calender is the day humanity crucified the son of God.

The most significant day in the xtian calendar is the resurrection, not the crucifixion.

 

[sojourner]

Very interesting observation considering that the birth and resurrection have zero impact on the doctrine of salvation. It was the death of christ, and the availability of his blood for bathing that supposedly provided salvation

Very interesting that an atheist dictates what constitutes the basis for the doctrine of salvation. Sort of like a blind person dictating shades of blue to an artist.

 

[sojourner]

According to xtian doctrine, believing christ rose doesn't get you into heaven. Bathing in his blood disguises you as christ, so god doesn't see the filthy, disgusting (perfect creation) you really are.

Which doctrine is that? The "Bloodbath Doctrine," I suppose. A theologian you're not.

 

[sojourner]

According to the scriptures death is the consequence of sin and everyone sins and faces death. Jesus as the eternal Son of God, came to the earth, paid for the sins of the world, conquered death, and rose victoriously over the grave as only He could. This is worth commemorating from the perspective of all who who have found new and eternal life in Him.

That's not what "the scriptures say," though.

 

[Awoon]

Salvation wasn't effected with Jesus' death.

My preacher 55 years ago said it was and he's a man of Gawd, so it must be true.

 

[sojourner]

My preacher 55 years ago said it was and he's a man of Gawd, so it must be true.

One guy? Really? I thought Xy was a communal affair.

 

[Awoon]

One guy? Really? I thought Xy was a communal affair.

yep one guy and the rest followed. that's why I left, nobody was unique or knew anything about Aramaic or Hebrew cultures.

 

[outhouse]

Sure he did The Bible tells me so.

I never said I followed the bible, and I made it quite clear I do not.

So much for your comprehensive skills.

 

[Awoon]

I never said I followed the bible, and I made it quite clear I do not.

So much for your comprehensive skills.

I'm lung Cancer free so I don't care....Hows that?

 

[sojourner]

yep one guy and the rest followed. that's why I left, nobody was unique or knew anything about Aramaic or Hebrew cultures.

And probably didn't care to know, because "the Holy Spirit taught them everything that was true."

 

[outhouse]

I'm lung Cancer free

Are you brother?

If you need someone to talk to, about this, PM me, lost many people to it.

 

[Awoon]

Are you brother?

If you need someone to talk to, about this, PM me, lost many people to it.

Nope,I can read you at BH&C.

 

[Awoon]

And probably didn't care to know, because "the Holy Spirit taught them everything that was true."

All they taught was written in the Bible...I could read about that stuff myself.

 

[JoStories]

So, you cant answer them either? That's why I told you to check out Biblical History and Criticism Forum, so I can watch you engage with educated posters. I'm a nobody expecting convincing answers from somebody. Maybe you?

Biblical Criticism & History Forum - earlywritings.com • View forum - Christian Texts and History

Ok, I went and took a very quick look. What is your point? I am here on this board and have no desire to populate another because I have limited time for this one. I find several posters on this board are extremely well educated in this area and the debate can be intriguing, both from a sociological/anthropological POV and from a purely personal one. I am fine here.

 

[Awoon]

Ok, I went and took a very quick look. What is your point? I am here on this board and have no desire to populate another because I have limited time for this one. I find several posters on this board are extremely well educated in this area and the debate can be intriguing, both from a sociological/anthropological POV and from a purely personal one. I am fine here.

BYE BYE

 

[JoStories]

BYE BYE

Whatever awoon. Immature people bore the hell out of me.

 

[natasha levchenko]

Millions remember the last supper and Jesus's death today, at services all over the World. I know because I have just returned from one that I was invited to attend.

that's great! sorry for a delayed answer. did you go to the Jehova"s Witnesses meeting?

 

[Salek Atesh]

Pretty sure that Christians emphasize the whole "Resurrection" bit over the death part. Likely they mention the death because without it the resurrection narrative would become a bit confusing.

"And then Jesus rose from his tomb!!"
"Wait, when did he die??"
"Oh, yeah, the Romans killed him like three days before this. It's not really important to the story, though."

The better question would be why do we Baha'is celebrate the martyrdom of one of our prophets??

 

[JoStories]

Very interesting that an atheist dictates what constitutes the basis for the doctrine of salvation. Sort of like a blind person dictating shades of blue to an artist.

Not really all that farfetche IMO. Many atheists were, at one time, very stalwart Christians very well educated in the doctrine. They can certainly have an opinion on the matter.