Heyo
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And a firmament (firm = hard shell) above.
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Why Creation by an Omnipotent, Omniscient Deity Is Even More Improbable than Pure Chance
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Earth hangs upon nothing ( No pillars, etc.) so says Job 26:7 long before telescopes and rocket ships.
A vault is Not flat (Job 22:14 B) When we hear the word vault often a bank vault comes to mind.
God drew a boundary around the waters edge.....(Job 26:10) circled around the waters edge.
Even the water's horizon shows a curve. Magellan observed the Earth was Not flat, just as the Bible teaches.
Magellan had more faith in seeing the moon and moon's round shadow than he had in the teachings of men.
God sits above the circle of the Earth - Isaiah 40:22
I find Not the OT, but old church 'fathers' in Ferdinand Magellan's day were teaching a flat Earth. Not the Bible.
Subduction Zone
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You quoted a Flat Earth verse. God cannot sit "above" a globe. But one can sit above a Flat Earth, and that verse uses a form of circle in Hebrew that only applies to a flat circle.
Ok, so, what do you think was the first life form?
I didn't mean that only breathing oxygen is only possible way of breathing.
And there are several verses indicating a flat earth you may do well not to ignore them.
Subduction Zone
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This is far from anything that I am qualified for, but the first life that succeeded, not the first life form itself, would have been a cell that could reproduce and got energy from simple anaerobic chemical reactions.
Subduction Zone
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Then you should have used a different term.
Subduction Zone
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Isaiah 40 22 is one of the prime flat Earth verses. Especially if one reads the original Hebrew.
I was going to quote that verse but often find quoting the bible to people who are supposed to know the bible to be a waste of time.
Subduction Zone
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I will quote it back to them, sometimes laughing at them if they have been rude and explain the Hebrew etymology and how that shows that they are wrong. Though I disagree with Flat Earthers to an extreme extent the one valid argument that they have is that the Bible supports them.
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How is circumference of the Earth showing proving flat.
I did mention Isaiah 40:22 back in post # 162
Subduction Zone
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That verse is not about the circumference of the Earth. Where did you get that idea from?
Subduction Zone
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Yes, that is a classic Flat Earth verse.
One or two already given above by SZ
However, here are a few..
Isaiah 11:12
Isaiah 40:22 and here we have a circle, apparently with corners from above
Job 28:24
Job 37:3
Matthew 4:8
Psalms 75:3
Revelation 7:1
Though im sure you have apologetics to explain these verses away to your satisfaction
The expression 'four corners' has to do with North, South, East and West (NEWS) Not literal corners.- Isaiah 11:12
So, all the dispersed ones (No matter where what corner of the Earth would be gathered together)- Isaiah 66:20
Where are the corners of Isaiah 40:22 above the circle/sphere of the Earth. Earth God's footstool - Isaiah 66:1
Job 28:24 Not a literal ends of Earth but that God sees all over the Earth - Zechariah 4:10 - to the ends of the Earth.
Job 37:3,11 scattered lightning all over the Earth thus includes reaching the ends of the Earth (NEWS)
Psalms 75:3; Job 9:6 is not literal pillars.
Matthew 4:8 ; Luke 4:5-8 easily Satan could have showed Jesus a vision a picture. Even today we see video's.
Revelation 7:1 figurative in all directions N.E.S.W. The 4 winds are directional of North, East, South and West winds.
Description as found at Luke 13:29 is not a literal table, and chapter one of Ezekiel is Not literal.
Even if this is unsatisfactory to you, I find logic in it.
Also, Psalms 46:9; Psalms 22:27 is Not about literal ends but war stopping to the end of the Earth.
Even today we speak of the sun setting, the sun rising, the sun traveling across the sky.
I recall my aunt proudly saying about her daughter-in-law that if her son could have taken a lit candle to the darkest corners of Earth he could not have found someone better.
I suppose some could take that as literal but she was not speaking about literal corners.
I find that to be true of Bible corners too.
Thought so, thanks for the confirmation.