Why did God create mortal bodies?

[Trailblazer]

I believe the stories about Jesus are either embellished or were copied and adapted from Greek mythology and other pagan religions that predate both the Bible and Christianity. For example, if you replace the name Jesus with Attis (the Phrygian-Greek god of vegetation), you'll have a strikingly familiar savior story similar to that of Jesus, except the Greek myths about Attis are dated 1250 BCE, which predates the Bible and Christianity (see here). In fact, you could replace the name Jesus with any of the other gods described in the following articles linked below, and you'll have more familiar stories that not only parallel the stories of his alleged crucifixion, death, and resurrection but also parallel other stories that have been written in the Bible about him.

And, like the myths about Attis, these other stories about Christ-like figures from Greek mythology and other pagan religions predate both the Bible and Christianity. I recommend learning more about Jesus in comparative mythology. You can start here: Jesus in comparative mythology. In my opinion, these other accounts of Christlike figures demonstrate that paganism had a significant influence on the stories about Jesus and that Christianity's beliefs are not unique. In other words, the savior story of Jesus isn't the first of its kind and, in my opinion, isn't any more believable than all the other savior stories that predate it. I know that Christians like to claim that the Bible was divinely inspired by God and that Christianity is the only true religion, but I don't believe that is true based on the information provided in these articles and in other similar ones. Christianity, in my opinion, is a cheap imitation of other religions.

10 Christ-Like Figures that predate Jesus

The Truth About Mythological Figures Similar To Jesus

Other Gods That Rose From the Dead in Spring Before Jesus Christ

Based on the information I've read, if a religious leader named Yehoshua (also called Yeshua or Jesus) existed in biblical times, he was most likely just an ordinary man and popular religious teacher whose devoted followers embellished the stories about him, and more embellishment and folklore were later added to these stories to make him appear to be more than he actually was. I believe that it's probable that he was simply a well-liked religious teacher whose loyal followers spread false stories about him to make him appear godlike. I also think that it's likely that a few stories about him were copied and adapted from Greek mythology and other ancient pagan religions, which predate Christianity and the Bible. In my opinion, it's plagiarized pagan myths.

Like I said, they are stories.

 

[osgart]

Mortal bodies are proof positive God does not exist or is extremely limited in power and moral authority.

 

[Trailblazer]

Mortal bodies are proof positive God does not exist or is extremely limited in power and moral authority.

Why do you think that?

 

[osgart]

Why do you think that?

Because bodies are inefficient, life is fragile, and biology is very, very messy, and wasteful. It appears to be makeshift, and designed on the fly with many errors, and ways that life can end that are brutal.

If God exists you would expect that life was meant to be. Bodies have to exist just right or we wouldn't exist at all. There's more ways the universe can kill us than there is ways of prosperity and survival.

 

[ChieftheCef]

So life works! Everything in the universe recycles, black holes even emit recycled "crushed" into subatomic constituents and spread creating new Nebula. These coagulate under gravity at points and form into solar systems, comets and all. Then life evolves and constantly recycles things like rock into life bearing sustenences for life. Man's place is to become soil. EVen with the advent of imortality the body will still be fragile and will die from animal attacks, disease, and rocks and stuff. ANything else is pie in the sky bait for a worse life.

 

[Trailblazer]

Because bodies are inefficient, life is fragile, and biology is very, very messy, and wasteful. It appears to be makeshift, and designed on the fly with many errors, and ways that life can end that are brutal.

If God exists you would expect that life was meant to be. Bodies have to exist just right or we wouldn't exist at all. There's more ways the universe can kill us than there is ways of prosperity and survival.

In my opinion, mortal bodies are not proof that God does not exist or that God is extremely limited in power and moral authority.
God had the power to give us another kind of body, but He didn't.
In my opinion, mortal bodies show that God doesn't care how much people and animals suffer, so God is not loving.

Let the apologists pile on!

 

[osgart]

In my opinion, mortal bodies are not proof that God does not exist or that God is extremely limited in power and moral authority.
God had the power to give us another kind of body, but He didn't.
In my opinion, mortal bodies show that God doesn't care how much people and animals suffer, so God is not loving.

Let the apologists pile on!

Unlimited power can create whatsoever creation it wishes to make. Why not make a glorious existence for life? Intelligence seems to be a super power that can make wonders out of a brutal existence. Imagine what could be done with a glorious existence.

Here we have death, scavenge for food, and a waste system. Not to mention natural and manmade catastrophes. Evil on top of that. What exactly is the point of all of this? Is life on earth less than nothing so treat us all that way.

It doesn't add up to moral authority. It adds up to a blind superintelligence that is bound by natural laws. I watched a video about scientists who run universe simulations that simulate the possible laws that might exist, there was only one in some astronomical number of universes that could give life as we know it. And most of the universe we live in is toxic and lethal to life as we know it.

Everything is a just right miracle of epic proportions. Since most things that happen are improbable yet happen anyway that still doesn't make up for the sheer unlikelihood of an advancing human civilization. So unless this is some grande experiment God has a ton to explain itself about.

We have exquisite precision in fine tuning constants, plus a whole lot of good fortune, and some brilliant minds to exist as we do. A meteor could even wipe us out in the future. AI is the next phase of human endeavour, where intelligence can be learned and acquired, and something far beyond human capabilities could make jobs and work vastly unnecessary. There's many ways civilization could end or grow to impossible heights and still be a total speck of insignificance. All this and a large population of starving people, and warring savages that want to wipe people out because they are different in some insignificant way.

Humans are desperate and never content, and have not learned to share the planet deservingly. Generation after generation a new challenge and struggle, while older generations die out. This life is all we have that we know of and we still have not learned the most basic moral lessons, and nature works against life more often than it provides life.

I mean there's no profit, or incentive to be charitable to people. Why can't we make life about serving life and all its potential beauty. Instead we compete for dominance and hope those that dominate are not cruel or extreme.

Where's God in all of that?

Decency and moral excellence often takes sacrifice, and there is no better way for those who want a quality of life. However by the time we reach humanity's maximum potential there will still be death.

So what's the point of all this?

 

[Sargonski]

That is the logical answer. I was not looking for a logical answer.

Everybody wanna go heaven .. Nooo-body wanna get dead !

 

[Trailblazer]

Where's God in all of that?

I don't think God is in all that, humans are in all that. We're on our own.

Decency and moral excellence often takes sacrifice, and there is no better way for those who want a quality of life. However by the time we reach humanity's maximum potential there will still be death.

Yes, no matter how much humans can improve the quality of life, there will always be death. Somehow we have to come to terms with death.
For me it is not my own death I am concerned about, it is the death of loved ones, humans an animals. It is a cruel system.

So what's the point of all this?

According to Baha'i beliefs the point is to learn and grow our character and this physical world is kind of like a classroom for learning.

Why do spiritual beings--human souls--begin their lives in the physical world? According to well-known Baha'i author, scholar, and educator John Hatcher, the world is a classroom designed by God to instigate and nurture mental and spiritual growth. The Purpose of Physical Reality examines the components of this classroom to show how everyday experience leads to spiritual insight. Viewing life in this way, we can learn to appreciate the overall justice of God's plan and the subtle interplay between human free will and divine assistance in unleashing human potential. The idea of physical reality as a divine teaching device not only prepares us for further progress in the life beyond, it also provides practical advice about how to attain spiritual and intellectual understanding while we are living on earth.

The Purpose of Physical Reality: Hatcher, John S: 9781931847230: Amazon.com: Books

The Purpose of Physical Reality [Hatcher, John S] on Amazon.com. *FREE* shipping on qualifying offers. The Purpose of Physical Reality

www.amazon.com

 

[Hockeycowboy]

And how is it conducive to spiritual growth to live forever in a physical body on Earth? It isn't.
It is just what some Christians want but why anyone would want that is beyond my comprehension.

Well, “the meek…will inherit the earth.” - Matthew 5:5.

Revelation 21:3,4 prophesies, “The tent of God is with mankind…And He will wipe out every tear from their eyes, and death will be no more, neither will mourning nor outcry nor pain be any more. The former things have passed away.”

Jesus said to pray to God, “…Thy Will be done on Earth” (Matthew 6:9,10); what Revelation 21 says, is it. And many others, like Isaiah 11:6-9, Psalms 37:10,11&29, Psalms 72:16, Isaiah 45:18, Psalms 46:9, etc.

With all of these things happening, life here on Earth would be the best it’s ever been.

Good night, my cousin.

 

[Aupmanyav]

But where the hell is God when you need Him? Nowhere. God is nowhere to be found.
I rest my case.

Then why do you have these weird beliefs about God and messengers?

 

[Little Dragon]

I am going to lay my cards right on the table. I am really angry at God because He created humans and animals with mortal bodies such that they will die. Why did God have to create humans and animals this way? If I think about it for very long I hate God for what He did, but what other choices did He have? I don’t know because I am not God, but is God is All-Knowing and All-Powerful so I tend to think it did not have to be this way. The more I type the angrier I become.

Obviously, God created it this way for a reason, so according to believers I am just supposed to accept that there was a reason and not complain, but I am going to complain because death has caused undue suffering for so many people, because there is nothing worse than losing a loved one, nothing.

I know that some Christians believe it was not supposed to be this way at least for humans, until Adam and Eve sinned, but I do not believe that bodies ever could have lived forever because they were not created to me immortal, so living forever in a physical body is absurd to me. But what is the other option? Death.

Now, let’s try to pretend that people are not afraid of dying.

If that is true, why all the fear of Covid-19, why the masks and social distancing, closing schools and businesses and basically shutting down economies all over the world? Let’s get real folks; people are terrified of death, even though most people believe in an afterlife. Most people enjoy life and they do not want to die, no matter how great heaven might be.

When Covid-19 first hit, I was not afraid at all, and I wondered why people were so fearful. I was never afraid because I am not afraid of my own death, since I have a pretty good idea where I am headed and I know it is not the end of me, but rather just a new beginning in another world, a world that is much better than this hellhole.

I am going to lay some more cards on the table. I have lost all my loved ones to death, first my father, then my sister and then my mother. I think my brother is still alive but I never talk to him anymore. I never had any children so all I have left is my husband, and he is 10 years older than me so he will probably die before I die. But that does not bother me as much as when my cats die because I know where my husband is going and I know I will see him again. I do not know where my cats are going, if anywhere, and I do not know if I will ever see my cats again because that was never revealed in any scriptures. Some people think it is in scriptures that animals have no spirit that lives on so they expire at death but that is just their interpretation.

I have lost so many cats in the last 23 years I have lost track of the number, but it is probably more than 30. If you want to you can blame me for having so many cats, but I already know I risk loss by having so many cats, I am not an idiot. So go ahead and blame me, I cannot feel much worse than I already feel. I know I run the risk of criticism by posting this, but it finally came down to this because I cannot go on like this anymore, feeling completely alone.

My husband is the only one who knows our situation and how I suffer and how it has nearly destroyed me so many times. But he does not really understand how I feel because he is very different when it comes to death and loss. He never even got sad or cried when either of his parents died, it was just like any other day; his only sister died about a week ago and he never got sad or cried. It is the same way when a cat dies. He is like a stone. I finally had to get a counselor again after five years of not having one, because it got so bad last January.

I am not going to go into any details about what happened to the cats or what has happened more recently because it is just too horrible, unimaginable. I will sometimes talk about it in private but only with people who want to know, people I trust. Unfortunately, nice as she is, by new counselor is not much help to me, but it is better than having nobody to talk to, even though I can only talk on the phone now because of Covid-19 restrictions and I cannot get regular appointments.

But where the hell is God when you need Him? Nowhere. The only help I have ever gotten is from kind and compassionate people, some of whom are on this forum. God is nowhere to be found. Sorry, I am not buying off on that God is working through these people because the people deserve the credit, not God. Interestingly, most of these kind and compassionate people have been atheists.

Now is the time for all the believers to blame me for not having God at my side because I am “shutting God out,” as if they could ever know that is what I am doing. Besides, if God is really All-Powerful and All-Loving, God could get in even if I am shutting Him out.

I rest my case.

I think you're very brave opening up and frankly revealing private pain. I could not do that. You're stronger than you know. As for grief, I know that death is not the end. I am certain of it. More certain than I am that the Sun is a vast natural fusion reactor floating in space. I say this and mean it sincerely. I know that this universe is strange, just how strange, time will tell.

If there is a God, a cosmic creator, then how could IT not understand our anxieties and mortal fear, and our grief and our anger? We are only human. After all.

Such a God of course, could hardly intervene in a universe IT created and operates via naturalistic means. Otherwise it would all break down. Tigers must eat Lambs, plants must clash for sunlight, bacteria must infect and multiply. In the eyes of mother nature, all is fair in love and war. So the God behind her, must agree. Perhaps it up to us to do what God cannot or perhaps will not do.

Every thinking mortal being, shares the same fears as you, even if they pretend otherwise. We are all in this together. You and me, and them too. x

 

[osgart]

I don't think God is in all that, humans are in all that. We're on our own.

Yes, no matter how much humans can improve the quality of life, there will always be death. Somehow we have to come to terms with death.
For me it is not my own death I am concerned about, it is the death of loved ones, humans an animals. It is a cruel system.

According to Baha'i beliefs the point is to learn and grow our character and this physical world is kind of like a classroom for learning.

Why do spiritual beings--human souls--begin their lives in the physical world? According to well-known Baha'i author, scholar, and educator John Hatcher, the world is a classroom designed by God to instigate and nurture mental and spiritual growth. The Purpose of Physical Reality examines the components of this classroom to show how everyday experience leads to spiritual insight. Viewing life in this way, we can learn to appreciate the overall justice of God's plan and the subtle interplay between human free will and divine assistance in unleashing human potential. The idea of physical reality as a divine teaching device not only prepares us for further progress in the life beyond, it also provides practical advice about how to attain spiritual and intellectual understanding while we are living on earth.

The Purpose of Physical Reality: Hatcher, John S: 9781931847230: Amazon.com: Books

The Purpose of Physical Reality [Hatcher, John S] on Amazon.com. *FREE* shipping on qualifying offers. The Purpose of Physical Reality

www.amazon.com

As a classroom this world is a total failure. That's with rose colored glasses that he sees it that way. It ignores the cruelty and indifference we have in people and nature. There's no safety net. There's no foundations for growth. There's no instruction. It's either sink or swim. Modern convenience and safety is imposed on nature. The heavy lifting of doing all the work that matters to us, and gives us relative ease is done with science and engineering, invented rules and laws, moral necessity, whereas none of this was necessarily going to happen. Humans had to war and fight cruelty and death to bring science into the world. Morality is a culture war, and a political battle. Generation after generation we depend on education that we fight to keep alive, and pass down, and progress. None of it is guaranteed success. Everything comes with a cost. Religion has blinded humans to the fact that nothing in life has progressed without enduring horrors, and tragedies, cruelty and suffering that can be catastrophic and extreme.

Everything comes with a price. There's no charity. No benevolence going on. The fact that people can enjoy their lives with some level of comfort and ease is all the product of labor and cooperation to survive. And that cooperation is in a system of competition that brings waste, destruction, and is a fight for dominance and power, and to survive another day.

 

[Twilight Hue]

I am going to lay my cards right on the table. I am really angry at God because He created humans and animals with mortal bodies such that they will die. Why did God have to create humans and animals this way? If I think about it for very long I hate God for what He did, but what other choices did He have? I don’t know because I am not God, but is God is All-Knowing and All-Powerful so I tend to think it did not have to be this way. The more I type the angrier I become.

Obviously, God created it this way for a reason, so according to believers I am just supposed to accept that there was a reason and not complain, but I am going to complain because death has caused undue suffering for so many people, because there is nothing worse than losing a loved one, nothing.

I know that some Christians believe it was not supposed to be this way at least for humans, until Adam and Eve sinned, but I do not believe that bodies ever could have lived forever because they were not created to me immortal, so living forever in a physical body is absurd to me. But what is the other option? Death.

Now, let’s try to pretend that people are not afraid of dying.

If that is true, why all the fear of Covid-19, why the masks and social distancing, closing schools and businesses and basically shutting down economies all over the world? Let’s get real folks; people are terrified of death, even though most people believe in an afterlife. Most people enjoy life and they do not want to die, no matter how great heaven might be.

When Covid-19 first hit, I was not afraid at all, and I wondered why people were so fearful. I was never afraid because I am not afraid of my own death, since I have a pretty good idea where I am headed and I know it is not the end of me, but rather just a new beginning in another world, a world that is much better than this hellhole.

I am going to lay some more cards on the table. I have lost all my loved ones to death, first my father, then my sister and then my mother. I think my brother is still alive but I never talk to him anymore. I never had any children so all I have left is my husband, and he is 10 years older than me so he will probably die before I die. But that does not bother me as much as when my cats die because I know where my husband is going and I know I will see him again. I do not know where my cats are going, if anywhere, and I do not know if I will ever see my cats again because that was never revealed in any scriptures. Some people think it is in scriptures that animals have no spirit that lives on so they expire at death but that is just their interpretation.

I have lost so many cats in the last 23 years I have lost track of the number, but it is probably more than 30. If you want to you can blame me for having so many cats, but I already know I risk loss by having so many cats, I am not an idiot. So go ahead and blame me, I cannot feel much worse than I already feel. I know I run the risk of criticism by posting this, but it finally came down to this because I cannot go on like this anymore, feeling completely alone.

My husband is the only one who knows our situation and how I suffer and how it has nearly destroyed me so many times. But he does not really understand how I feel because he is very different when it comes to death and loss. He never even got sad or cried when either of his parents died, it was just like any other day; his only sister died about a week ago and he never got sad or cried. It is the same way when a cat dies. He is like a stone. I finally had to get a counselor again after five years of not having one, because it got so bad last January.

I am not going to go into any details about what happened to the cats or what has happened more recently because it is just too horrible, unimaginable. I will sometimes talk about it in private but only with people who want to know, people I trust. Unfortunately, nice as she is, by new counselor is not much help to me, but it is better than having nobody to talk to, even though I can only talk on the phone now because of Covid-19 restrictions and I cannot get regular appointments.

But where the hell is God when you need Him? Nowhere. The only help I have ever gotten is from kind and compassionate people, some of whom are on this forum. God is nowhere to be found. Sorry, I am not buying off on that God is working through these people because the people deserve the credit, not God. Interestingly, most of these kind and compassionate people have been atheists.

Now is the time for all the believers to blame me for not having God at my side because I am “shutting God out,” as if they could ever know that is what I am doing. Besides, if God is really All-Powerful and All-Loving, God could get in even if I am shutting Him out.

I rest my case.

It's the pain of waking up to the actual truth of the matter.

I used to be a theist. Now I'm much wiser about it and am willing to accept that this is how life is , and that the universe dosent revolve around humanity.

It's quite the opposite where our role is not even worthy of note in the grandeur of the continuum.

 

[Aupmanyav]

Yes, no matter how much humans can improve the quality of life, there will always be death. Somehow we have to come to terms with death.
For me it is not my own death I am concerned about, it is the death of loved ones, humans an animals. It is a cruel system.

According to Baha'i beliefs the point is to learn and grow our character and this physical world is kind of like a classroom for learning.

Why do spiritual beings--human souls--begin their lives in the physical world? According to well-known Baha'i author, scholar, and educator John Hatcher, ..

Yeah, sure. Death will always be there, for ourselves and for those whom we know (individuals or pets). But what is your problem with that? I lost a sister-in-law just four days ago. People (and pets) die, leave us with memories. The system seems cruel to you because of your attachment to things.
There is no purpose to life. We give it our own purpose, which, overall, does not make even an iota of difference in how things stand.
"God", "Spiritual beings", "human soul", "spritual growth" are falsehood. "Physical world"! Is there any other kind of world? What evidence you or John Hatcher have for them? Silly ideas to fool people.

 

[Maninthemiddle]

I am going to lay my cards right on the table. I am really angry at God because He created humans and animals with mortal bodies such that they will die. Why did God have to create humans and animals this way? If I think about it for very long I hate God for what He did, but what other choices did He have? I don’t know because I am not God, but is God is All-Knowing and All-Powerful so I tend to think it did not have to be this way. The more I type the angrier I become.

Obviously, God created it this way for a reason, so according to believers I am just supposed to accept that there was a reason and not complain, but I am going to complain because death has caused undue suffering for so many people, because there is nothing worse than losing a loved one, nothing.

I know that some Christians believe it was not supposed to be this way at least for humans, until Adam and Eve sinned, but I do not believe that bodies ever could have lived forever because they were not created to me immortal, so living forever in a physical body is absurd to me. But what is the other option? Death.

Now, let’s try to pretend that people are not afraid of dying.

If that is true, why all the fear of Covid-19, why the masks and social distancing, closing schools and businesses and basically shutting down economies all over the world? Let’s get real folks; people are terrified of death, even though most people believe in an afterlife. Most people enjoy life and they do not want to die, no matter how great heaven might be.

When Covid-19 first hit, I was not afraid at all, and I wondered why people were so fearful. I was never afraid because I am not afraid of my own death, since I have a pretty good idea where I am headed and I know it is not the end of me, but rather just a new beginning in another world, a world that is much better than this hellhole.

I am going to lay some more cards on the table. I have lost all my loved ones to death, first my father, then my sister and then my mother. I think my brother is still alive but I never talk to him anymore. I never had any children so all I have left is my husband, and he is 10 years older than me so he will probably die before I die. But that does not bother me as much as when my cats die because I know where my husband is going and I know I will see him again. I do not know where my cats are going, if anywhere, and I do not know if I will ever see my cats again because that was never revealed in any scriptures. Some people think it is in scriptures that animals have no spirit that lives on so they expire at death but that is just their interpretation.

I have lost so many cats in the last 23 years I have lost track of the number, but it is probably more than 30. If you want to you can blame me for having so many cats, but I already know I risk loss by having so many cats, I am not an idiot. So go ahead and blame me, I cannot feel much worse than I already feel. I know I run the risk of criticism by posting this, but it finally came down to this because I cannot go on like this anymore, feeling completely alone.

My husband is the only one who knows our situation and how I suffer and how it has nearly destroyed me so many times. But he does not really understand how I feel because he is very different when it comes to death and loss. He never even got sad or cried when either of his parents died, it was just like any other day; his only sister died about a week ago and he never got sad or cried. It is the same way when a cat dies. He is like a stone. I finally had to get a counselor again after five years of not having one, because it got so bad last January.

I am not going to go into any details about what happened to the cats or what has happened more recently because it is just too horrible, unimaginable. I will sometimes talk about it in private but only with people who want to know, people I trust. Unfortunately, nice as she is, by new counselor is not much help to me, but it is better than having nobody to talk to, even though I can only talk on the phone now because of Covid-19 restrictions and I cannot get regular appointments.

But where the hell is God when you need Him? Nowhere. The only help I have ever gotten is from kind and compassionate people, some of whom are on this forum. God is nowhere to be found. Sorry, I am not buying off on that God is working through these people because the people deserve the credit, not God. Interestingly, most of these kind and compassionate people have been atheists.

Now is the time for all the believers to blame me for not having God at my side because I am “shutting God out,” as if they could ever know that is what I am doing. Besides, if God is really All-Powerful and All-Loving, God could get in even if I am shutting Him out.

I rest my case.

Why the physical body, to interact with the world he created.
Same reason we create cars, to get around, you are not your body, it’s a vehicle for your soul and just like cars when your car is old it stops working and you step into a new car.
The Earth is basically a school, and when you live enough lives you graduate to another dimension or level of Heaven.
If a God interfered what would we learn, our karma would never be served.
God does not let anyone die, death is not the end.

 

[Trailblazer]

The system seems cruel to you because of your attachment to things.

Sorry but no. People and animals are not things. They are sentient creatures. The system seems cruel to me because I love them.

 

[Trailblazer]

Well, “the meek…will inherit the earth.” - Matthew 5:5.

That is a reference to the meek will who are 'living' on earth at the time it is inherited, and it also refers to their progeny.

What does inherit the earth mean in Matthew?

The earth and all its blessings will be inherited by those society sees as meek, because the earth and its people need those who are humble in spirit and who care for the needs of others more than glorifying themselves. The earth needs people who know God cares for their needs and leads them every moment of the day. May 10, 2021

'The Meek Shall Inherit the Earth' - Verse Meaning - iBelieve.com​

Revelation 21:3,4 prophesies, “The tent of God is with mankind…And He will wipe out every tear from their eyes, and death will be no more, neither will mourning nor outcry nor pain be any more. The former things have passed away.”

Jesus said to pray to God, “…Thy Will be done on Earth” (Matthew 6:9,10); what Revelation 21 says, is it. And many others, like Isaiah 11:6-9, Psalms 37:10,11&29, Psalms 72:16, Isaiah 45:18, Psalms 46:9, etc.

With all of these things happening, life here on Earth would be the best it’s ever been.

Physical death will always exist on Earth since we were created by God to live in mortal bodies while we are living on Earth.
'Death will be no more' means that everyone who believes in Jesus will have eternal life, as so many other Bible verses say.

Yes, the Earth will be the best it has ever been for the people living on the Earth and their progeny, when these prophecies are fulfilled.

 

[Trailblazer]

Then why do you have these weird beliefs about God and messengers?

Because I believe God and Messengers exist.

 

[jes-us]

I am going to lay my cards right on the table. I am really angry at God because He created humans and animals with mortal bodies such that they will die. Why did God have to create humans and animals this way? If I think about it for very long I hate God for what He did, but what other choices did He have? I don’t know because I am not God, but is God is All-Knowing and All-Powerful so I tend to think it did not have to be this way. The more I type the angrier I become.

Obviously, God created it this way for a reason, so according to believers I am just supposed to accept that there was a reason and not complain, but I am going to complain because death has caused undue suffering for so many people, because there is nothing worse than losing a loved one, nothing.

I know that some Christians believe it was not supposed to be this way at least for humans, until Adam and Eve sinned, but I do not believe that bodies ever could have lived forever because they were not created to me immortal, so living forever in a physical body is absurd to me. But what is the other option? Death.

Now, let’s try to pretend that people are not afraid of dying.

If that is true, why all the fear of Covid-19, why the masks and social distancing, closing schools and businesses and basically shutting down economies all over the world? Let’s get real folks; people are terrified of death, even though most people believe in an afterlife. Most people enjoy life and they do not want to die, no matter how great heaven might be.

When Covid-19 first hit, I was not afraid at all, and I wondered why people were so fearful. I was never afraid because I am not afraid of my own death, since I have a pretty good idea where I am headed and I know it is not the end of me, but rather just a new beginning in another world, a world that is much better than this hellhole.

I am going to lay some more cards on the table. I have lost all my loved ones to death, first my father, then my sister and then my mother. I think my brother is still alive but I never talk to him anymore. I never had any children so all I have left is my husband, and he is 10 years older than me so he will probably die before I die. But that does not bother me as much as when my cats die because I know where my husband is going and I know I will see him again. I do not know where my cats are going, if anywhere, and I do not know if I will ever see my cats again because that was never revealed in any scriptures. Some people think it is in scriptures that animals have no spirit that lives on so they expire at death but that is just their interpretation.

I have lost so many cats in the last 23 years I have lost track of the number, but it is probably more than 30. If you want to you can blame me for having so many cats, but I already know I risk loss by having so many cats, I am not an idiot. So go ahead and blame me, I cannot feel much worse than I already feel. I know I run the risk of criticism by posting this, but it finally came down to this because I cannot go on like this anymore, feeling completely alone.

My husband is the only one who knows our situation and how I suffer and how it has nearly destroyed me so many times. But he does not really understand how I feel because he is very different when it comes to death and loss. He never even got sad or cried when either of his parents died, it was just like any other day; his only sister died about a week ago and he never got sad or cried. It is the same way when a cat dies. He is like a stone. I finally had to get a counselor again after five years of not having one, because it got so bad last January.

I am not going to go into any details about what happened to the cats or what has happened more recently because it is just too horrible, unimaginable. I will sometimes talk about it in private but only with people who want to know, people I trust. Unfortunately, nice as she is, by new counselor is not much help to me, but it is better than having nobody to talk to, even though I can only talk on the phone now because of Covid-19 restrictions and I cannot get regular appointments.

But where the hell is God when you need Him? Nowhere. The only help I have ever gotten is from kind and compassionate people, some of whom are on this forum. God is nowhere to be found. Sorry, I am not buying off on that God is working through these people because the people deserve the credit, not God. Interestingly, most of these kind and compassionate people have been atheists.

Now is the time for all the believers to blame me for not having God at my side because I am “shutting God out,” as if they could ever know that is what I am doing. Besides, if God is really All-Powerful and All-Loving, God could get in even if I am shutting Him out.

I rest my case.

Hello ma dear , God created mortal animals because God never expected animals to develop an extra independent existence , namely a collection of words called humanity . God didn't create humanity , humanity was formed . Animals are not that bothered about death because they don't understand death . However , not to worry because humanity being a set of words means that humans are formed from light . Luckily all light goes to heaven .