Why Did Jehovah Create The Universe . . .

[Skwim]

. . . and populate Earth with humans?

My conclusion is that he was bored and was looking to spice things up a bit. And creating evil was a stroke of genius---it insured that human interactions would never settle into the mundane and monotonous, but insure millennia of entertainment. Conflict and struggle is where the action is, so conflict and struggle it would be.

Which means that like it or not we're god's Punch & Judy show.

Of course, if you know of some other reason god created all this stuff, please share.

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[Altfish]

As The Buzzcocks once said...

 

[Thief]

if you know of some other reason god created all this stuff, please share.

kinda hard to say I AM! .....when only your Echo replies

 

[Sahjananda]

. . . and populate Earth with humans?

My conclusion is that he was bored and was looking to spice things up a bit. And creating evil was a stroke of genius---it insured that human interactions would never settle into the mundane and monotonous, but insure millennia of entertainment. Conflict and struggle is where the action is, so conflict and struggle it would be.

Which means that like it or not we're god's Punch & Judy show.

Of course, if you know of some other reason god created all this stuff, please share.

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It is always difficult to find a satisfying answer if we begin with the question why God created this universe.
We need to go backwards from where we are. Science takes us back to the big bang as the source of the universe. But then it stops with that. Why the big bang, who started the big bang, science has no answer.
what propels the universe and actions, sages tell us, is that desire is the motivating force. Without desire there will not be any movement. It is desire that dominates the world and runs the world. This desire creates time, causes conflict, violence and suffering. Buddha said that suffering is caused by desire and we need to stop desire to be free from suffering. But Buddha does not go further. He does not answer the question: why desire.
St.Paul says that the whole creation is groaning to give birth to the sons and daughters of God. The source of human desire is to become and sons and daughters of God. When we are not aware of our ultimate goal our desires are wrongly projected and that causes suffering.
if we go little backward and ask: why this desire to become sons and daughters of God: we touch God. this desire to become sons and daughters of God in us and in the creation comes from the desire of God:
what is the desire of God? the desire of God is to manifest his or her infinite attributes like love and compassion.
In order to manifest divine attributes God needs sons and daughters. Hence God's desire propels, human desire to be like God, St.Paul said, the whole of creation is eagerly growing to give birth to the sons and daughters of God.
The evolutionary process of the universe is meant to produce a level of consciousness that is capable of realizing that it is the son of God or daughters of God. in the Biblical tradition Jesus Christ has reaching ultimate stage of evolution, when he said, I am the Son of God and I and the Father are one.
God does not create the universe directly. It is the natural desire of God that brings forth the creation which is a long process of billions of years of evolution. Realtive evil belongs to the process of evolution. When the human consciousness reaches its ultimate goal then it goes beyond relative good and evil and enters into the absolute good that has no trace of Evil.

 

[Thief]

God does not create the universe directly.

not buying that...

the Creator and His creation have a relationship

not One without the other

 

[Skwim]

what is the desire of God? the desire of God is to manifest his or her infinite attributes like love and compassion. In order to manifest divine attributes God needs sons and daughters.

In as much as it's said that he creates evil (Isaiah 45:7) this doesn't sound at all reasonable. On the other hand, considering the depravity and wickedness of humans, and that god is manifesting his or her infinite attributes in humans, no doubt this also reflects god's depravity and wickedness.

The evolutionary process of the universe is meant to produce a level of consciousness that is capable of realizing that it is the son of God or daughters of God.

I assume you mean human consciousness, and that your "son of God or daughters of God" is metaphorical: millions of people having wasted lives; having died without "reaching ultimate stage of evolution."

God does not create the universe directly. It is the natural desire of God that brings forth the creation which is a long process of billions of years of evolution.

I assume by "not create the universe directly" you mean he didn't create the universe all at once.

. When the human consciousness reaches its ultimate goal then it goes beyond relative good and evil and enters into the absolute good that has no trace of Evil.

So why did god create so many wasted lives? Millions of people who would never have a consciousness that went beyond relative good and evil and entered into the absolute good that has no trace of Evil. Evidently god has no concern for the welfare of their consciousness.

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[Sleeppy]

@Skwim Assuming God is not subject to time/change, the universe and all of its variations have always existed.

 

[Skwim]

@Skwim Assuming God is not subject to time/change, the universe and all of its variations have always existed.

But according to Genesis 1:1 god made the universe.

1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.​

And from the commentary sources I looked at "heaven" is a synonym for "universe."

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[Sleeppy]

But according to Genesis 1:1 god made the universe.

1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.​

And from the commentary sources I looked at "heaven" is a synonym for "universe."

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That is true according to perspectives within time. Language itself (except for perhaps mathematical equation) is subject to the perception that time is an arrow. How do you form a sentence? With a noun and a verb.

 

[Earthling]

. . . and populate Earth with humans?

My conclusion is that he was bored and was looking to spice things up a bit. And creating evil was a stroke of genius---it insured that human interactions would never settle into the mundane and monotonous, but insure millennia of entertainment. Conflict and struggle is where the action is, so conflict and struggle it would be.

Which means that like it or not we're god's Punch & Judy show.

Of course, if you know of some other reason god created all this stuff, please share.

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When you say God created evil, what exactly does that mean? What is the Hebrew word for evil, what do other translations render the word and how is it applied to God in the Bible? For the clarification of the latter part of the question, give 2 examples of God having created "evil."

 

[Skwim]

When you say God created evil, what exactly does that mean?

"Creating," as a gerund or present participle. But here, let me help you out.

cre·ate
krēˈāt/
verb
verb: create; 3rd person present: creates; past tense: created; past participle: created; gerund or present participle: creating
bring (something) into existence.​

What is the Hebrew word for evil,

The Hebrew word is רָע, transliterated as ra'

What do other translations render the word and how is it applied to God in the Bible?
For the clarification of the latter part of the question, give 2 examples of God having created "evil."

Sorry, but you'll have to do the rest of your homework yourself.

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[AdrianCo]

www.theexplanationforeverything.com

 

[Earthling]

The Hebrew word is רָע, transliterated as ra'


Sorry, but you'll have to do the rest of your homework yourself.

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Ra can also be translated as bad. calamitous, envious, gloomy, malignant, ugly, ungenerous. Most other translations render ra at Isaiah 45:7 as calamity .

The two examples are Adam and Eve expelled from the garden and the global flood.

Example of application. A child is told by his parent not to play in the busy street, it's bad (ra). The rebellious child thinks this decision is ungenerous (ra). He plays in the street anyway, and when grounded thinks the punishment is calamitous (ra).

 

[Skwim]

Ra can also be translated as bad. calamitous, envious, gloomy, malignant, ugly, ungenerous. Most other translations render ra at Isaiah 45:7 as calamity .

No they don't! "Evil" is by far the most common translation, appearing in 26% of 50 listed Bibles, which is far more than the runners up,"calamity" and "disaster(s)," at 16% each. And, of course, 16% isn't even close to "most."

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[Earthling]

No they don't! "Evil" is by far the most common translation, appearing in 26% of 50 listed Bibles, which is far more than the runners up,"calamity" and "disaster(s)," at 16% each. And, of course, 16% isn't even close to "most."

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Masoretic or Septuagint based? Older or newer translations? 50 isn't a very comprehensive list.

 

[John53]

As The Buzzcocks once said...

Never mind the Buzzcocks.

 

[Japle]

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