Why didn't Kamala Harris want to debate Donald Trump?

[an anarchist]

Basically you started an inane thread and are inanely trying to dig yourself into an even deeper hole of inanity.

There are so many awful partisan threads on this awful election, but you still have managed to make the worst one, which you are embarrassingly trying to defend.

Well done

Reminded me of…

 

[Evangelicalhumanist]

Why are you asking me where does it say that Harris also agreed (with FoxNews)? I never claimed that Harris also agreed to that; you'd have a basis for your question if I did claim that, but since I didn't, I don't know what the basis of your question is.

Then if you can't say she agreed to that date -- but did agree to another (Sept 10) -- then your OP is disingenuous. You titled the thread "Why didn't Kamala Harris want to debate Donald Trump?" But since she agreed to September 10, clearly she does want to debate Trump. Just the debate he suggested, without her agreement, was inconvenient for her, for whatever reason.

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[Augustus]

Why didn't Kamala Harris want to debate Donald Trump?" But since she agreed to September 10, clearly she does want to debate Trump.

I fear @anotherneil is struggling to understand the basic fact that all politicians try to use the media in a way that most benefits themselves rather than choosing to do so in a manner that most benefits their opponents.

 

[PureX]

The POTUS 2024 debate was supposed to take place yesterday & from what I understand, it didn't take place because it seems like Kamala Harris doesn't want to debate Donald Trump.

I wonder why Kamala Harris wouldn't want to debate Donald Trump for POTUS 2024? Was she afraid to debate him, or is there some other reason?

It's impossible to debate a liar. Nothing of value will come of this "debate". Even if they had a buzzer that sounded every time Trump tells a lie, he would just lie and say the buzzer is lying.

 

[anotherneil]

- No. It's not a strawman argument.

You deny that it's a strawman all you want, but you cannot change the fact that this thread is about trying to find out why Kamala Harris wouldn't debate Trump on September 4th, and not about an alleged false claim about Kamala Harris backing out.

Trump and Biden's 2nd debate was scheduled to be on Fox News, on Sept. 4th 2024.

Oh, interesting - I wasn't aware of this! This means that that there's even more hypocrisy since Kamala Harris isn't a chicken for not debating Trump on September 4th, but Trump is a chicken for not wanting to debate on ABC & that's just ridiculous.

But between the first debate, and this proposed 2nd debate, Biden dropped out.
- No debate had been set for any date or location between Trump and any other candidate.
- Kamala was the undeniable front runner going into the DNC, but still not the officially chosen one for her party.

Practically "chosen" by appointment by the party, rather than a special election for voters to choose a replacement for Biden.

- Trump's group and the Right Wing (RW) media (which in fact does have a MUCH higher rate of blatant lies and obvious propaganda than all centrist and Left Wing (LW) media sources combined - please do not be so naive as to claim the equivalency lie) saw an opening they wished to exploit.

What evidence do you have that RW media has a much higher rate of blatant lies and obvious propaganda than all centrist and LW media sources combined?

I do think that RW media does engage in some lies & propaganda, but I'm not convinced that it's as much as LW media.

Namely that they would accuse VP Harris of "backing out" of the Trump/Biden debate of Sept. 4th even, since they conflated Biden/Harris with the yet to be established Harris/Walz campaign. This explains the many articles you cited in a post above. They were ALL intentional misleads.

Lies and misleads are 2 different things. What evidence do you have that Harris did not back out of it rather than simply not agree to it? Claims that she backed out of it are uncorroborated, not necessarily false. Maybe it is in fact false that Harris backed out of it, but there's no evidence that it's false (none that I've come across, so far).

Harris had NEVER agreed to debate Trump, but had PROPOSED Sept. 10th to the Trump campaign.

This is kinda a self-contradicting statement (such a proposal implies an agreement) - do you mean she never agreed to debate Trump on September 4th? If so, what evidence do you have?

You'll note that all of the propaganda articles say such things as "Trump agrees to Fox debate on Sept. 4th", or "Trump agrees with Fox to debate Harris on Sept. 4th". None go so far as to outright lie, and claim that Harris EVER agreed to debate Trump on Sept. 4th. Common propaganda tactics, so that later, the networks can all claim to have told the "truth". Some go so far as to use phrases like "the Biden/Harris campaign" backed out, etc...

Generally speaking, the media can engage in misleading content and propaganda, but this isn't necessarily one of those cases. Perhaps it could be if your claim that Kamala Harris never agreed to the September 4th debate is true, but I don't know that this is true. What if Harris or her campaign team did agree to it with Trump or his campaign team, like in a private meeting or email or whatever, only to change her mind afterwards? You can't prove such a negative; Harris would have to state that at no time did she or her campaign team agree to the September 4th debate - has she done this?

- Eventually, after much hemming and hawing, and sometimes outright refusal, the Trump campaign finally agreed to debate Harris on Sept. 10th, on ABC News.

It wasn't hemming and hawing; his reluctance to debate on ABC has to do with the fact that he's suing them for defamation: Trump is suing ABC News and George Stephanopoulos for defamation. Here's what to know about his claim.

Actually, the entire thread (followed by your utter reliance upon propaganda sites as actual "news sources", is an afront. But so commonly employed and sadly accepted by so many, as to be passe at this point.

I don't understand; are you trying to suggest that Kamala Harris did want to debate on September 4th?

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Why didn't Kamala Harris want to debate Donald Trump?​

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Why didn't Harris "WANT" to debate The Insurrectionist?

I don't know; is that relevant to this thread topic?

Therein lies the insult. She always wanted to.

Irrelevant.

She has stated and shown many times that she is eager to debate him.

Him who? Trump? Are we back on topic, now?

If anything, his period of hemming and hawing, and waffling as to whether he would even dare to try to debate Harris shows clearly how The Insurrectionist is the only one feeling fear about September 10th.

What is that, a music band? Trump and the Insurrectionist?

But you're right, September 10th hasn't come and gone, yet, so we'll see if either one decides not to participate & why they didn't, and what that means.

"... it didn't take place because it seems like Kamala Harris doesn't want to debate Donald Trump." is your falling into the propaganda of the RW press, conflating Biden/Harris, with the Harris/Walz campaign (which hadn't even existed when the Sept 4th Biden vs Trump debate was set up.

Please provide a source for your claim that Biden and Trump were originally planning on debating on September 4th. I tried to look for one & didn't find any. I even asked ChatGPT; this is what I asked:

Did trump and biden agree to a september 4th debate on fox, before biden dropped out?

and this was its response:

There was no agreed debate between Donald Trump and Joe Biden scheduled for September 4, 2024, on Fox News. Initially, a debate had been planned between Trump and Biden on September 10, 2024, hosted by ABC News. However, Biden dropped out of the presidential race earlier in the year, leading to a shift in plans. Trump then proposed a debate with Kamala Harris, Biden’s replacement, on September 4, hosted by Fox News. Harris declined this offer, instead committing to the original September 10 debate on ABC(
POLITICO
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Washington Examiner
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After Harris rejected the Fox debate, Trump announced he would instead hold a town hall event on September 4, moderated by Sean Hannity(
Washington Examiner
).

And that is why all centrists, and left wing supporters, and right wing supporters of Harris would all take umbrage at your title and OP.

What is? This doesn't seem cohesive with your reply.

Not to mention your continued use of false "news sources" as if they were anything but lying propaganda stations.

If they're false, then you're implying (again), that Kamala Harris did want to debate on September 4th. Did Kamala Harris want to debate Donald Trump on September 4th, or not?

 

[anotherneil]

You may not have intended to be, but the strangeness of your OP means that the main point of interest is why anyone would make such an odd thread and keep trying to pretend it is perfectly reasonable.

I’ll leave you to amuse yourself though.

Ok, bye.

 

[anotherneil]

Are you incapable of believing anything but Trump propaganda, Trump proposed appropos of nothing a whole string of debates under his terms, Harris said no, I will be at the scheduled Sept. 10 debate, with you or without you. Much irrelevant bluster from Trump and guess what, he will show up at the ABC debate on the originally scheduled Sept. 10 date. The only change proposed was live mics which Trump's handlers didn't want though Trump said he would prefer it. There will not be live mics, just the original arrangement. Everything else from Trump is gaslighting on a deal he already made but now wants to change.

Ok, so according to you, is this article on CBS News website Trump propaganda, lies, whatever?

Trump is suing ABC News and George Stephanopoulos for defamation. Here's what to know about his claim.

Former President Donald Trump is suing ABC, ABC News and George Stephanopoulos, claiming defamation over comments by the ABC host during an interview.

www.cbsnews.com

 

[anotherneil]

Then if you can't say she agreed to that date -- but did agree to another (Sept 10) -- then your OP is disingenuous. You titled the thread "Why didn't Kamala Harris want to debate Donald Trump?" But since she agreed to September 10, clearly she does want to debate Trump. Just the debate he suggested, without her agreement, was inconvenient for her, for whatever reason.

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Strawman; you're comparing a statement about a debate that would've happened in the past (and didn't) after I had posted this thread, to a debate that hasn't happened, yet.

I wrote "didn't", not "won't" in the title, and in the body of the OP I stated that I was referring to "yesterday".

I had also posted it the next day, so that "yesterday" would've been September 4th, not September 10th (which is still in the future, at the time of my posting this response).

At the time I posted this thread, and even up to this point, no debate has yet taken place between Trump and Harris; there hadn't been one or more than one, and since this September 4th would've been the only one so far, I didn't need to disambiguate between September 4th and some other past debate on a different day from September 4th, and there's still no need to disambiguate about past dates.

Here's my question, rephrased, if it makes you happy:

Why didn't Kamala Harris want to debate Donald Trump on September 4th of 2024 for the POTUS 2024 election?

Will you offer an answer to this thread topic question, or are you just here to heckle?

 

[anotherneil]

I fear @anotherneil is struggling to understand the basic fact that all politicians try to use the media in a way that most benefits themselves rather than choosing to do so in a manner that most benefits their opponents.

Yes, I struggle, you struggle, everyone struggles; it's all part of the human condition. If none of us struggled, then there wouldn't be a need for this online forum.

Now, let's not make this about @anotherneil anymore, and go back to the thread topic.

 

[Pogo]

- No. It's not a strawman argument. Trump and Biden's 2nd debate was scheduled to be on Fox News, on Sept. 4th 2024. But between the first debate, and this proposed 2nd debate, Biden dropped out.
- No debate had been set for any date or location between Trump and any other candidate.
- Kamala was the undeniable front runner going into the DNC, but still not the officially chosen one for her party.
- Trump's group and the Right Wing (RW) media (which in fact does have a MUCH higher rate of blatant lies and obvious propaganda than all centrist and Left Wing (LW) media sources combined - please do not be so naive as to claim the equivalency lie) saw an opening they wished to exploit. Namely that they would accuse VP Harris of "backing out" of the Trump/Biden debate of Sept. 4th even, since they conflated Biden/Harris with the yet to be established Harris/Walz campaign. This explains the many articles you cited in a post above. They were ALL intentional misleads. Harris had NEVER agreed to debate Trump, but had PROPOSED Sept. 10th to the Trump campaign. You'll note that all of the propaganda articles say such things as "Trump agrees to Fox debate on Sept. 4th", or "Trump agrees with Fox to debate Harris on Sept. 4th". None go so far as to outright lie, and claim that Harris EVER agreed to debate Trump on Sept. 4th. Common propaganda tactics, so that later, the networks can all claim to have told the "truth". Some go so far as to use phrases like "the Biden/Harris campaign" backed out, etc...
- Eventually, after much hemming and hawing, and sometimes outright refusal, the Trump campaign finally agreed to debate Harris on Sept. 10th, on ABC News.

Actually, the entire thread (followed by your utter reliance upon propaganda sites as actual "news sources", is an afront. But so commonly employed and sadly accepted by so many, as to be passe at this point.
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Why didn't Kamala Harris want to debate Donald Trump?​

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Why didn't Harris "WANT" to debate The Insurrectionist?
Therein lies the insult. She always wanted to. She has stated and shown many times that she is eager to debate him.
If anything, his period of hemming and hawing, and waffling as to whether he would even dare to try to debate Harris shows clearly how The Insurrectionist is the only one feeling fear about September 10th.
"... it didn't take place because it seems like Kamala Harris doesn't want to debate Donald Trump." is your falling into the propaganda of the RW press, conflating Biden/Harris, with the Harris/Walz campaign (which hadn't even existed when the Sept 4th Biden vs Trump debate was set up.

And that is why all centrists, and left wing supporters, and right wing supporters of Harris would all take umbrage at your title and OP.
Not to mention your continued use of false "news sources" as if they were anything but lying propaganda stations.

Generally correct, but you got the 4th and 10th reversed. The original date was the 10th

 

[anotherneil]

Speaking of me, I must be over a rather large and sensitive target to cause so many people to get triggered. LOL

 

[anotherneil]

Generally correct, but you got the 4th and 10th reversed. The original date was the 10th

I didn't consider that the poster accidently used the wrong date. At this point I'm not going to re-evaluate what I posted since I'm responding to what was posted and my response would remain the same, but given that "10th" was meant in place of where "4th" was written, it may mean that my response wouldn't apply to what was intended by the poster. I'll be glad to provide any clarification pertaining to this, if necessary. It's not my intention or desire to punish people for honest mistakes.

 

[Pogo]

Speaking of me, I must be over a rather large and sensitive target to cause so many people to get triggered. LOL

No, the problem is that your OP was based on the false idea that a debate had been agreed to on Sept. 4, there never was such an agreement, only a disingenuous statement by Trump to deflect from his desire to avoid the original agreement for a second debate with the Democratic candidate on Sept. 10. everything else is us attempting to explain this to you and you defending the indefensible Trump with all hubris of the true believer.

 

[It Aint Necessarily So]

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The POTUS 2024 debate was supposed to take place yesterday & from what I understand, it didn't take place because it seems like Kamala Harris doesn't want to debate Donald Trump. I wonder why Kamala Harris wouldn't want to debate Donald Trump for POTUS 2024? Was she afraid to debate him, or is there some other reason?

Trump and Biden agreed to two debates, the one that led to his dropping out, and a second one on September 10th on ABC.

The terms of the debate(s) need to be mutually agreeable to the two candidates. Trump tried to change them and so did Harris. After Biden dropped out, Trump suggested different dates and venues for additional debates including a September 4th debate on Fox, but Harris declined. Harris would only agree to the previously agreed upon date and venue, although Trump agreed to that when he thought he'd be debating Biden. Harris preferred that the mics be kept live at all times but didn't get that concession.

The rules were then and still are now: no live audience, the mic of the person not speaking be muted, no opening statement but closing statements are permitted, no props or notes, and the candidates will not be permitted to interact with campaign staff during the two two-minute commercial breaks.

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Your claim that Harris doesn't want to debate Trump is contradicted by the facts. It's the reverse that is more likely correct.

Trump would probably prefer to not debate Harris at all. The contrast will be extreme - an older candidate who lies incessantly, slurs words, and rambles against a stronger, younger, more articulate, better informed, and more intelligent opponent.

We saw Trump making noises about not attending the September 10th ABC debate, which was understood as him being afraid to face her, but he has agreed to be there now. He's hard to predict, so we'll see if he does, but being a no-show will probably hurt him as much or more than debating her.

If he is a no-show, he'll appear weak - something he can't afford right now. When he was ahead in the primaries, skipping debates didn't hurt him. It was seen as confidence and a correct understanding that he didn't need to participate in them to win the nomination.

But this is different. He's now trailing in the polls, and he's already agreed to debate Biden any time, any place. Can he really afford to say effectively that he would debate that other old man but not this younger woman?

If he doesn't show up, Harris will. That will be a terrible look for Trump, as she taunts him on TV before a huge television audience for his cowardice.

The best evidence that he plans to debate is that he's doing the groundwork to claim that the debate was rigged and he was cheated. As you know, in his mind, he never loses. If he loses an election or a trial, he was cheated. There is no reason why this should be different. He's already complaining about ABC being hostile and unfair to him: Trump slams ABC ahead of pivotal network-hosted debate: 'They’re the worst, they’re the nastiest'

This article is from last month.

Yes. That's when Trump was busy trying to wiggle out of the debate. Harris began taunting him (source):

"When Trump suggested he might back out of the forthcoming ABC presidential debate, Harris' camp "posted sound effects of squawking, whining chickens" to accompany a video of Trump talking. That's part of a "saucier, more ruthless" approach than President Joe Biden took to Trump."

This and Trump falling behind by 4 points now in the polls makes not participating in Tuesday's debate a bad choice for Trump.

So if it's Kamala Harris, it's that she never agreed to it and that doesn't maker her a chicken, but if Trump hadn't agreed at the time for the ABC debate last month then he's a chicken?

Yes, that's the public perception. Harris does not have to agree to any of Trump's terms that Biden didn't agree to, and Trump must abide by his commitment to debate on September 10th or he appears cowardly. True, he didn't agree to debate Harris when that date was set, but he can't back out now without appearing cowardly.

That would be a double standard.

The situations are different. Harris is not trying to get out of debating with Trump. She'll be there for the only scheduled debate. Trump was trying to get out of it.

Did he originally agree with a debate with Kamala Harris on ABC, then back out, then go back to agreeing to it because he's a chicken?

That's the public perception. Agreeing to debate Harris was implicit when he didn't immediately say that he wouldn't debate her. When he began making noises about getting out of it or changing the rules several days after Biden dropping out, that was understood as him being afraid of her, hence the taunting.

Why didn't Kamala Harris want to debate Donald Trump on September 4th of 2024 for the POTUS 2024 election?

Your original question was, "I wonder why Kamala Harris wouldn't want to debate Donald Trump for POTUS 2024?" @Daemon Sophic gave you the definitive response - the claim is incorrect.

So why not agree to September 4th as well or instead? You'd have to ask her. My guess is that the date wasn't a factor. She probably didn't want to debate on Fox. Also, she might view giving in to his terms as empowering him. Or maybe she feels that one debate is enough this close to the election and would rather be on the campaign trail than preparing for another debate.

Whatever her reason, it's probably not a fear of debating Trump. If it were, she's have agreed with him when he was trying to get out of the September 10th debate.

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

You didn't answer my question with a yes or no.

... perhaps because I found it dishonest.

 

[fantome profane]

False analogy, unless Reese Witherspoon would have a reason and expectation to be having lunch with you and agrees to lunch on a different day - does she have a reason and expectation to be having lunch with you? Has she agreed to lunch with you on a different day? I want proof - please post video or pics of this lunch date with her when it happens.

Your "expectations" are not relevant. It makes no difference whether you not you expect or don't expect Reece Witherspoon to have lunch with me, and it makes no difference whether or not you expected Kamala Harris to debate with Donald Trump on September 4th. All that matters are the facts, not your personal expectations.

So, what are the facts (just the facts)

What? What are we talking about?

Who? Who are we talking about?

Where? Where is the event happening

When? When is the event happening?







What? What are we talking about?

We are talking about the Presidental debate that has been agreed on.

Who? Who are we talking about?

The debate is to be between Kamala Harris and Donald Trump.

Where? Where is the event happening?

The debate will take place at the National Constitution Center in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania and be aired live on ABC.

When? When is the event happening?

This will happen on September 10th at 9 pm Eastern Daylight Time.







If you have different answers to these questions, your answers are simply wrong.

 

[anotherneil]

No, the problem is that your OP was based on the false idea that a debate had been agreed to on Sept. 4, there never was such an agreement, only a disingenuous statement by Trump to deflect from his desire to avoid the original agreement for a second debate with the Democratic candidate on Sept. 10. everything else is us attempting to explain this to you and you defending the indefensible Trump with all hubris of the true believer.

Wrong; are you intentionally trying to be dishonest? I never stated that it had been agreed to & in fact the OP is about the notion that Harris did not want to debate on that day.

 

[anotherneil]

... perhaps because I found it dishonest.

I don't know what you mean by this, because assertions are honest or dishonest; a question, although it can be loaded, cannot be honest or dishonest.

I also don't care that you "found it dishonest" - you either will or you won't answer the question.

 

[anotherneil]

Your "expectations" are not relevant. It makes no difference whether you not you expect or don't expect Reece Witherspoon to have lunch with me, and it makes no difference whether or not you expected Kamala Harris to debate with Donald Trump on September 4th. All that matters are the facts, not your personal expectations.

So, what are the facts (just the facts)

What? What are we talking about?

Who? Who are we talking about?

Where? Where is the event happening

When? When is the event happening?







What? What are we talking about?

We are talking about the Presidental debate that has been agreed on.

Who? Who are we talking about?

The debate is to be between Kamala Harris and Donald Trump.

Where? Where is the event happening?

The debate will take place at the National Constitution Center in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania and be aired live on ABC.

When? When is the event happening?

This will happen on September 10th at 9 pm Eastern Daylight Time.







If you have different answers to these questions, your answers are simply wrong.

This doesn't answer my thread topic question.

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

I don't know what you mean by this, ...

OK

I also don't care that you "found it dishonest"

OK