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Are you under the impression that we are not immortal because our ancestors disobeyed God ?Bangbang said:Did my dogs ancestors disobey God too?
Is that not what started this mess that many talk about.......especially Christians?michel said:Are you under the impression that we are not immortal because our ancestors disobeyed God ?
Some think that but it would seem to me that Adam & Eve were mortal.Bangbang said:Is that not what started this mess that many talk about.......especially Christians?
Sorry, not this one; our bodies wear out; we die. That is nature; the same applies to animals.Bangbang said:Is that not what started this mess that many talk about.......especially Christians?
I don't quite understand this cardero. Tortoises live longer than humans, does that mean they like it here more than we do?cardero said:Well everything has to die, it is one of the few Truths we can rely on. I think one of the reasons that animals do not have very long lifespans is because the entity that occupies this animal "model" does not desire to spend many moments in this physical existence.
Nah just a better pace of lifeHalcyon said:I don't quite understand this cardero. Tortoises live longer than humans, does that mean they like it here more than we do?
Who do you think "us" was?linwood said:Some think that but it would seem to me that Adam & Eve were mortal.
God didn`t kick them out of Eden because they ate of the tree of knowledge, he kicked them out because he feared they would now eat of the tree of life and become immortal.
Gen 3:22-24
And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever:
Therefore the LORD God sent him forth from the garden of Eden, to till the ground from whence he was taken.
So he drove out the man; and he placed at the east of the garden of Eden Cherubims, and a flaming sword which turned every way, to keep the way of the tree of life.
The part I always liked about these verses was wondering just who "Us" was.
Humanly speaking, I couldnt begin to imagine or understand the purpose why a soul would occupy a tortoise shell but Chris P's answer will suffice until my wondering mind settles on a valid reason.Halcyon said:I don't quite understand this cardero. Tortoises live longer than humans, does that mean they like it here more than we do?
Well if we look at it from a modern context "Us" could very well be Gods angels.nutshell said:Who do you think "us" was?
That is one interpretation of Genesis.Are you under the impression that we are not immortal because our ancestors disobeyed God ?
To spread the good news of Gods Kingdom tocome.cardero said:Humanly speaking, I couldnt begin to imagine or understand the purpose why a soul would occupy a tortoise shell