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Why do animals suffers?? (Islam and Christianity)
- Thread starter Sumit
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FearGod
Freedom Of Mind
What kind of suffering ?
Animals were created by God for mankind's enjoyment, not to live forever. Animals, unlike humans, have no concept of everlasting life. Animals suffer, I believe, because man is now alienated from the true God, and under the control of a cruel and evil person called Satan the Devil in the Bible. (1 John 5:19) Satan and many humans care nothing for animals, nor people for that matter, and inflict all manner of cruelty upon both. In contrast, the Bible promises a time near at hand when animals will co-exist peacefully with one another and with mankind.(Isaiah 11:6-9) Satan and all who cruelly mistreat animals and people will then be eliminated.
Sumit
Sanatana Dharma
Pain, hunger, diseases and early death.
Sumit
Sanatana Dharma
So Abhrahmic god is equally responsible for this act.
Sorry but my question is why they suffer? Not all animals suffer due to humans.
We should focus on present.
Why don't Abhrahmic god end human and animal suffering right now?? As acc to you animals have no second life so this shows cruelty of god for the animals of present and past.
FearGod
Freedom Of Mind
But also human suffer from pain,hunger,sadness,Depression and also early death.
But yes we are a little bit better,maybe for us to realize how God is caring about us,not only about food and other good things in life but even the ability to think and other amazing things.
Sumit
Sanatana Dharma
But after death Islamic followers will be rewarded by jannah. What about animals??
So god is unjust. Isn't it?? Also god is not merciful because it shows no mercy for animals. Abhrahmic god only cares human so that they can worship him. Quran clearly states that allah created humans only to worship him. So where is mercy. It's simply give and take.
FearGod
Freedom Of Mind
But after death Islamic followers will be rewarded by jannah. What about animals??
So god is unjust. Isn't it?? Also god is not merciful because it shows no mercy for animals. Abhrahmic god only cares human so that they can worship him. Quran clearly states that allah created humans only to worship him. So where is mercy. It's simply give and take.
It is the test for obedience.
Yes God sacrifice with animals to satisfy us and we blame him and accusing him to be unmerciful.
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Sumit
Sanatana Dharma
What??
Where is the ans??? I asked a simple ques. Why god is unjust towards animals?
FearGod
Freedom Of Mind
Do you obey the rules in your own country ?
Don't steal,don't hurt someone,don't drive while drunk ..etc.
The earth is the test to filter out the good souls from the bad ones.
Why humans are unjust to animals ?
Didn't you ever eat hamburger,chicken burger,barbecues..etc
Are you a monster then.
I don't know why. Why do people suffer? What makes you think God has no mercy towards animals? Humans would have a human covenant with God but how do we know He doesn't have a simpler one with animals already, as well? Maybe He doesn't need one because since animals live by instinct and that includes an instinctual relationship with God (I can hear all of you laughing at that last one but...). Truthfully, I never think of this and it has never entered my mind except at fleeing moments (Like when I see on the News about animal abuse of pets like cats, dogs, horses, etc.)
When our cat was suffering and we couldn't fix her, we put her to sleep so as to not prolong her suffering. We miss her dreadfully but it would have been worse to see her crying and yowling in pain.
We have other cats, they are all a part of my family.
So Abhrahmic god is equally responsible for this act.
Sorry but my question is why they suffer? Not all animals suffer due to humans.
We should focus on present.
Why don't Abhrahmic god end human and animal suffering right now?? As acc to you animals have no second life so this shows cruelty of god for the animals of present and past.
I think it a bit cheeky of you to criticize the Creator of animals and man for how he created them. A more humble approach would be to acknowledge how far above our thinking is God's thinking, and try to discern the answer to the questions you asked.(Isaiah 55:8,9 in the Bible)
I think it would be a mistake to believe that we theists don't sometimes question God's motives. I think we do a lot more often than you would think- we don't really want to admit it,though.
Me Myself
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Do you obey the rules in your own country ?
Don't steal,don't hurt someone,don't drive while drunk ..etc.
The earth is the test to filter out the good souls from the bad ones.
Why humans are unjust to animals ?
Didn't you ever eat hamburger,chicken burger,barbecues..etc
Are you a monster then.
He didnt deliberately make animals to have both feelings and nervious systems to feel pain, abrahamic God did.
Me Myself
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A more humble approach than this post may be to remember that not all of us pretend to know which book comes from God, eventhough some do so without evidence and present verses as if they were facts.
All animals experience bodily and/or emotional pain, but suffering arises specifically from mental recall and attachment to passing pain. The feedback loops may become obsessive entanglements conditioning future habits and cultures. Some "lesser" animals than humans could actually experience less suffering via natural non-attachment to temporary pain. Many humans in contrast seem to have a lot more issues letting go with our obnoxiously large brains.
Pain serves a purpose by warning us about bodily or emotional harm and prompting a mental inquiry and action (or non-action). Many other animals also seem to be better at paying attention than a lot of humans. I don't know. Maybe we should be asking them for advice instead.
Me Myself
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I believe the evidence is there for those that have the eyes to see it. Some choose not to believe. No evidence will convince such ones.
Ingledsva
HEATHEN ALASKAN
Suffering and death are natural parts of nature. We don't live in a safe sealed bubble.
All animals have to reproduce. Some of those offspring will be weak, and other animals needing food will kill them.
All animals have to eat, so we kill off flora and fauna.
Accidents happen, and we and all other animals weaken and die.
Modern society mistreats animals out of greed.
And some religions - have strange reasoning - and think Deity needs sacrificed animals, - or that the sacrifice somehow clears them.
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Sumit
Sanatana Dharma
Do you treat god and humans equally?? Their is large diff b/w them. Humans are imperfect, god is perfect. Humans are ignorant, god is source of knowledge.Why humans are unjust to animals ?
Didn't you ever eat hamburger,chicken burger,barbecues..etc
Are you a monster then.
I detailed it in posts.
It's not the thinking of god, it's Abhrahmic concept of god.
It's better way to learn.
This shows that animals suffer as Humans, however humans will be awarded by ticket to heaven after judgement day and enjoy immortal life for mortal deeds whereas animals don't. why a creator who created both is unjust toward animals.