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Why do humans have genes for full body hair?

Wildswanderer

Veteran Member
That is because you won't even ask proper questions.

Let's go over the concept of "Power" first. Power is not energy. The amount of powder is directly tied with energy. Bullets have kinetic energy. The formula for that is KE = (1/2)mv^2

Power is a rate. It is the rate of delivery of energy. It is the formula for power is P = KE/t.

Do you understand this so far? Do you need links to any of these?
This is basic stuff. Explain what claim you are trying to make.
Are you still claiming a certain bullet causes more damage to tissue?
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
This is basic stuff. Explain what claim you are trying to make.
Are you still claiming a certain bullet causes more damage to tissue?
It may be basic, but you have shown that you do not understand it. Do you remember that you foolishly thought that holes from a .22 round were somehow applicable? Or did you forget that huge error already?

And you have it backwards. You were the one claiming that certain bullets cause more damage. That was never my claim.
 

We Never Know

No Slack
I believe God formed man from the ground through evolution and with probably some tweaking by God at the end. So the mutations that left man as a naked ape would be expected if God did that with man to make him distinct or something.

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Wildswanderer

Veteran Member
It may be basic, but you have shown that you do not understand it. Do you remember that you foolishly thought that holes from a .22 round were somehow applicable? Or did you forget that huge error already?

And you have it backwards. You were the one claiming that certain bullets cause more damage. That was never my claim.
A .22 sized bullet especially a. 22 mag isn't much smaller than a. 223. Again, what are you trying to claim?
In the hunting world both the.223 and .22 mag are considered varmint rounds. The biggest difference in performance is how much powder they have behind them. You can download .223 so it performs similar to a.22 mag or load it hotter to reach out farther and have more punch. So what is your beef in the comparison between a .22 and a .223?
 

leroy

Well-Known Member
I think it's a silly and strange term to use. I mean, we don't don't call people who accept gravity Newtonists, do we? Or people who accept the germ theory of disease Kochists, right?
Sounds to me like that poster was spot-on.
That is because there are no (and has never been) alternatives to newton’s theory of gravity so the term newtonist has never been necessary and never made it in to the dicconaries

in the case of Darwin there are and has always been alternative explanations on how organism evolve, we need the term “Darwinism” to distinguish it from other alternatives ……… this is not “creationists stuff” scientists use it all the time…………… for example look for any paper or book written by Dawkins, you will note the term “Darwinism” or “Darwinist” everywhere…….


What word would you use to distinguish someone who claims that organisms evolve through random mutations + natural selection (Darwinism) vs someone who claims that mutations are not random or someone who claims that random genetic drift plays a major role (neutralist) ?


This is just semantics, but in my opinion, it is a useful word
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
A .22 sized bullet especially a. 22 mag isn't much smaller than a. 223. Again, what are you trying to claim?
In the hunting world both the.223 and .22 mag are considered varmint rounds. The biggest difference in performance is how much powder they have behind them. You can download .223 so it performs similar to a.22 mag or load it hotter to reach out farther and have more punch. So what is your beef in the comparison between a .22 and a .223?
The topic is how much damage a round has and why. I was trying to go over the high school level physics that you do not understand.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
That is because there are no (and has never been) alternatives to newton’s theory of gravity so the term newtonist has never been necessary and never made it in to the dicconaries

in the case of Darwin there are and has always been alternative explanations on how organism evolve, we need the term “Darwinism” to distinguish it from other alternatives ……… this is not “creationists stuff” scientists use it all the time…………… for example look for any paper or book written by Dawkins, you will note the term “Darwinism” or “Darwinist” everywhere…….


What word would you use to distinguish someone who claims that organisms evolve through random mutations + natural selection (Darwinism) vs someone who claims that mutations are not random or someone who claims that random genetic drift plays a major role (neutralist) ?


This is just semantics, but in my opinion, it is a useful word
I see, so you use that term to set up a strawman argument.
 

leroy

Well-Known Member
Because all too many demonize Darwin, including misunderstanding where he was coming from. On top of that, we know myriads more about evolution than what he could have known.
Because all too many demonize Darwin, including misunderstanding where he was coming from. On top of that, we know myriads more about evolution than what he could have known.
Well I am not demonizing Darwin, my view is in line with what scientists say

1 we know that organisms evolve and that we likely share a common ancestor with other organisms

2 we don’t know through what mechanism we evolve,
 

Wildswanderer

Veteran Member
The topic is how much damage a round has and why. I was trying to go over the high school level physics that you do not understand.
If that's the topic then my observations are valid.
I haven't seen you offer any of your own observations so you haven't been helpful in explaining...all you have offered are general concepts anyone can find online.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
Well I am not demonizing Darwin, my view is in line with what scientists say

1 we know that organisms evolve and that we likely share a common ancestor with other organisms

2 we don’t know through what mechanism we evolve,

1 is correct.

2 is not.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
If that's the topic then my observations are valid.
I haven't seen you offer any of your own observations so you haven't been helpful in explaining...all you have offered are general concepts anyone can find online.


Oh my! You need to learn how to reason logically. Just because you do not understand why you are wrong does not make your observations valid. And it appears that you are afraid that you are wrong. Why do you keep running away from the topic?

I was trying to explain to you why you were wrong. Do you want to learn or do you want to run away?
 

SkepticThinker

Veteran Member
That is because there are no (and has never been) alternatives to newton’s theory of gravity so the term newtonist has never been necessary and never made it in to the dicconaries
Well, there's that Einstein guy. :)
So that's not the reason.

in the case of Darwin there are and has always been alternative explanations on how organism evolve, we need the term “Darwinism” to distinguish it from other alternatives ……… this is not “creationists stuff” scientists use it all the time…………… for example look for any paper or book written by Dawkins, you will note the term “Darwinism” or “Darwinist” everywhere…….
There are no "alternative explanations" about how organisms evolve. "God did it" isn't an explanation.

This labelling seems only to apply to evolution so I'd say it's definitely "creationist stuff."

What word would you use to distinguish someone who claims that organisms evolve through random mutations + natural selection (Darwinism) vs someone who claims that mutations are not random or someone who claims that random genetic drift plays a major role (neutralist) ?
All of that falls under the umbrella of evolution.

This is just semantics, but in my opinion, it is a useful word
Yeah, creationist semantics. Which is a waste of time and a diversion.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
Ok, the I will correct my claim

Nobody except for “ Subduction Zone“ knows how organisms evolve…………… but since he will not share his secret knowledge with anybody then we can ignore him
On my!! No. Still wrong.

This time you used a black and white fallacy.
 

leroy

Well-Known Member
All of that falls under the umbrella of evolution.

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Yes, but not under the umbrella of “Darwinism”.............. that is my point, there are different models of evolution We need terms like Darwinism and neutralism to differentiate one model forma the other

You are making a big deal out of something very small

The fact is that someone how the term “Darwinist” (unlike newtonist) made it in to the diccionaries and in to our languages, and even scholars use this term in books and papers………….. therefore there is nothing inappropriate about using the term
 

Wildswanderer

Veteran Member
Oh my! You need to learn how to reason logically. Just because you do not understand why you are wrong does not make your observations valid. And it appears that you are afraid that you are wrong. Why do you keep running away from the topic?

I was trying to explain to you why you were wrong. Do you want to learn or do you want to run away?
I haven't run away from the topic. Wrong about what? You haven't even defined what is right.
 
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