Why do Jehovah's Witnesses think the earth will not be destroyed?

[pearl]

If a person thinks that nothing bad can happen to anybody after death,

I thought what was being discussed was the Kingdom of God realized, will the world be destroyed or transformed?

 

[muhammad_isa]

..their judgment isn’t based on what they did in the past, which is what many sects of Christendom teach.It is based on how they act after they are resurrected, and learn truth.

We orthodox Christians and Muslims don't believe that.
We interpret scriptures differently from you.

Let me ask you this .. do you think satan will be judged on "how he acts after he is resurrected"?

Also .. what makes you think that satan will change his mind .. he knows all about God .. he was once with the angels in heaven.

 

[muhammad_isa]

I thought what was being discussed was the Kingdom of God realized, will the world be destroyed or transformed?

OK .. that is the OP, but conversations wander..

To me, it does not matter .. God has created the Earth once, and He can create it a billion times over, if He so wills.

It does seem a little illogical to me, that human beings will no longer be mortals on Earth when Jesus appears?

I don't believe that, in any case. [I do believe that Jesus will appear]
I believe that we all experience physical death, and we will all be resurrected .. in some sort of body, not necessarily mortal.

 

[Hockeycowboy]

Why are you being contentious with me? I was trying to be agreeable with your statements.

We orthodox Christians and Muslims don't believe that.
We interpret scriptures differently from you.

By “orthodox”, do you mean mainstream? Christendom?
E gads!! They’ve been killing their brothers almost since their inception 1800 yrs.ago! They have an awful reputation of hypocrisy, too. (Titus 1:16) I’m sure you don’t agree with that kind of behavior!

Their actions & hypocrisy — claiming to follow the Prince of Peace, yet not being peaceable themselves — should make honest hearted people question their mainstream teachings also.

Let me ask you this .. do you think satan will be judged on "how he acts after he is resurrected"?

Satan isn’t dead… yet. But once he is killed, he’ll never be resurrected! Christ’s ransom sacrifice does not cover him… or his demon angels.

Also .. what makes you think that satan will change his mind .. he knows all about God .. he was once with the angels in heaven.

Yes, he was once. I never said “satan will change his mind”.

He knows the truth; but most people never knew it or learned it.

 

[muhammad_isa]

Why are you being contentious with me? I was trying to be agreeable with your statements

I appreciate that .. I'm not trying to create a problem .. I'm just sharing my thoughts with you.

By “orthodox”, do you mean mainstream? Christendom?
E gads!! They’ve been killing their brothers almost since their inception 1800 yrs.ago!

Yes, satan is our clear enemy!
..he creates division amongst mankind.

Their actions & hypocrisy — claiming to follow the Prince of Peace, yet not being peaceable themselves — should make honest hearted people question their mainstream teachings also.

I think each belief or topic needs to be studied on its own merit, and through the study of all available knowledge.
..but I agree with you, that it is not acceptable to attack your fellow believer in God .. only defending from attack.

I never said “satan will change his mind”.

No, he won't .. God has told us that he condemns himself .. he has effectively destroyed his own soul.
We can do that too .. we can be a pious believer, and then something upsets us, and we become a blasphemer, and urge others to disbelieve etc.

Those that believe .. then disbelieve .. then believe .. then disbelieve..
Can such people be trusted? I think not.

Satan isn’t dead… yet. But once he is killed, he’ll never be resurrected!

There is good reason to believe that ALL created beings who have ever lived will be resurrected.

Jesus provided examples and illustrations of judgments against cities and generations. Jesus warned his contemporaries that the men of Nineveh, who repented at the preaching of Jonah, and the Queen of the South would testify against them in the judgment. In the same speech, Jesus declared woes upon the cities of Chorazin and Bethsaida declaring that the cities of Sodom, Tyre, and Sidon would have a more tolerable outcome in the judgement.
General judgment - Wikipedia

..and as you know, I am a Muslim..

1 When the sun is overthrown,
2 And when the stars fall,
3 And when the hills are moved,
4 And when the camels big with young are abandoned,
5 And when the wild beasts are herded together,

6 And when the seas rise,
7 And when souls are reunited,
8 And when the girl child that was buried alive is asked,
9 For what sin she was slain,
10 And when the pages are laid open, [of history]

11 And when the sky is torn away,
12 And when hell is lighted
13 And when the garden is brought nigh
14 (Then) every soul will know what it hath made ready.
- Qur'an The Folding up -

 

[Joshua Pryce]

What happens after spoling a sandwich. You make another one. What about putting too much sugar in a tea. What about a patch of dirt which is littered with problems. Its not doing the whole thing over but purifying it through cleaning and undoing something.
Human standards are make it over, Gods standards are add and take away from what is there.

 

[Hockeycowboy]

“
Why do Jehovah's Witnesses think the earth will not be destroyed?”

Psalms 37:29, obviously referring to the planet in this verse.

What do you think Jesus meant in Matthew 5:5?

 

[muhammad_isa]

Why do Jehovah's Witnesses think the earth will not be destroyed?”

Psalms 37:29, obviously referring to the planet in this verse.

28 For Jehovah is loving judgment, And He doth not forsake His saintly ones, To the age they have been kept, And the seed of the wicked is cut off.
29 The righteous possess the land, And they dwell for ever on it.
30 The mouth of the righteous uttereth wisdom, And his tongue speaketh judgment.
- Psalm 37 Youngs Literal Translation -

Context is everything .. I find this single-verse cherry picking quite annoying..

These verses are taking about "Jehovah's saintly ones" .. saying they will possess the land, and their seed after them.
It does not mean that they don't die.

 

[Hockeycowboy]

28 For Jehovah is loving judgment, And He doth not forsake His saintly ones, To the age they have been kept, And the seed of the wicked is cut off.
29 The righteous possess the land, And they dwell for ever on it.
30 The mouth of the righteous uttereth wisdom, And his tongue speaketh judgment.
- Psalm 37 Youngs Literal Translation -

Context is everything .. I find this single-verse cherry picking quite annoying..

These verses are taking about "Jehovah's saintly ones" .. saying they will possess the land, and their seed after them.
It does not mean that they don't die.

Oh my goodness…. If you’re going to comment on my statement, then please follow the conversation.

What question was I answering? It was the OP question.

It had nothing to do with death.

It was about the Earth.

Stop trying to argue with me. That is annoying.

 

[muhammad_isa]

What question was I answering? It was the OP question.

It had nothing to do with death.

It was about the Earth.

Stop trying to argue with me. That is annoying.

It's called debating..

We both believe in Jehovah .. Praise the Lord.

 

[Hockeycowboy]

It's called debating..

We both believe in Jehovah .. Praise the Lord.

OK, I’ll take that.
I will “debate” with you, soon…. Got too much going on right now, my cousin.

 

[FredVB]

I agree with using the scripture passage showing that God does not want the destruction of this earth, and there are many believers going along with the perception that everything of this earth will be burned up, so they don't mind the destruction to this earth, they think they would be taken out from here with no consequences and brought to a new earth. That irresponsibility is not supported with their Bible. We are supposed to have good stewardship in this world that it can go on, there is not the image of God we are meant to have without our meeting our responsibilities here, with godliness. All of ungodly civilization is failing that, against God's will, and it will collapse, not very far off. The fire to come in the end is judgment on the ungodly remaining, after a millennium of Christ's reign here that will have us involved in the restoration of this world to how it should be, afterwards this will be a new earth, with the creation that groans for it brought back with the redeemed to this new earth, with no more wickedness and rebellion, with no harm from any to any other. Our repentance to have come to God to live for what God wills made possible through Christ should lead toward that.

 

[2ndpillar]

I agree with using the scripture passage showing that God does not want the destruction of this earth, and there are many believers going along with the perception that everything of this earth will be burned up, so they don't mind the destruction to this earth, they think they would be taken out from here with no consequences and brought to a new earth. That irresponsibility is not supported with their Bible. We are supposed to have good stewardship in this world that it can go on, there is not the image of God we are meant to have without our meeting our responsibilities here, with godliness. All of ungodly civilization is failing that, against God's will, and it will collapse, not very far off. The fire to come in the end is judgment on the ungodly remaining, after a millennium of Christ's reign here that will have us involved in the restoration of this world to how it should be, afterwards this will be a new earth, with the creation that groans for it brought back with the redeemed to this new earth, with no more wickedness and rebellion, with no harm from any to any other. Our repentance to have come to God to live for what God wills made possible through Christ should lead toward that.

You kind of got off tract of what the message of Yeshua was. In Mt 24:29, the "son of man" comes "immediately after the tribulation" after the "stars (probably nuclear weapons per Zech 14:12) fall from the sky". Even the "elect" suffer through the "great tribulation" (Mt 24:22). The nations/Gentiles that "survive" will cow tow to the Jews in Jerusalem (Zech 8:23 & Zech 14:16) and the nations/Gentiles, who survive, will be ruled with a rod of iron (Rev 19:15). Apparently, there are consequences given to those who rebel, in that they will not receive rain (Zech 14:17). The "king" will be David ruling over the combined house of Judah and the house of Ephraim, in the land given to Jacob (Ez 37:16-28).