Do you have any science to back up your claims that promiscuity harms anyone other than the promiscuous person? Or is this just speculation on your part?
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Why do muslims hate democracy
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Do you have any science to back up your claims that promiscuity harms anyone other than the promiscuous person? Or is this just speculation on your part?
Sleeppy
Fatalist. Christian. Pacifist.
He'll probably go straight to the Quran's "scientific" claims.
Religious people who want to believe something is true, don't really use science. Pseudoscience is more like it )(
Debatable. Depends on how you're defining Hinduism and also needs to factor in the indigenous religions of people like Africans and indigenous Australians.
Many religions teach reincarnation or rebirth. Hellenic Orphics were teaching the transmigration of souls at the same time Indians started to discuss it.
outhouse
Atheistically
Agreed.
All the way back to Neanderthals
Even Venus figurines go back further.
Al-Fatihah
Muslim
Response: Science is not necessary to know that the harm or emotions of others can influence another person emotionally. If you don't feel emotions when you see someone else either happy, sad, or harmed, then there is no need discussing with you since you lack the emotional ability to relate.
outhouse
Atheistically
You don't have the education to make claims a psychologist makes.
You have no credibility here as anything other then possibly being on a "watch list"
YmirGF
Bodhisattva in Recovery
I guess we could start calling him Dr. Al.You don't have the education to make claims a psychologist makes.
You have no credibility here as anything other then possibly being on a "watch list"
Pegg
Jehovah our God is One
If muslims were living by a true theocracy, their societies would be peaceful and women would have equal rights... but they dont have theocracy...they have sharia which is what you get when men administer Gods laws.
When men administer law, its no longer Gods rule, its mans.
Pegg
Jehovah our God is One
Ahhh, how about the unwanted children born to promiscuous men and women... or the babies aborted? Or do they not count?
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DawudTalut
Peace be upon you.
Peace be on all.
Islam has broad choices in this regard:
By 4th Ahmadiyya Muslim Khalifah (ra)
https://www.alislam.org/library/bro..._Response_to_Contemporary_Issues_Page_248.png
Islam has broad choices in this regard:
By 4th Ahmadiyya Muslim Khalifah (ra)
https://www.alislam.org/library/bro..._Response_to_Contemporary_Issues_Page_248.png
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Show me the science describing the magnitude of the unwanted children problem, Pegg. Precisely how many unwanted children are born to promiscuous men and women? How does that number compare to the number of unwanted children born to non-promiscuous men and women? etc. Without such facts, you've got nothing but speculation. Same goes for aborted fetuses.
mahasn ebn sawresho
Well-Known Member
Lesson of political systems in the world knows the evolution of democracy
Because the world has three styles of governance
1. ancient civilizations were considered as Governor is God
This civilization of Mesopotamia and Egypt and Athens and the Romans
2. There has been an evolution with Judaism and Christianity, the Governor dropped the idea of divinity and was regarded as a representative to the authority of God on Earth
Christianity did not take this idea also
3. the third stage is the rule of the people and was the beginning of an idea with Plato and Aristotle
This is compatible with Christianity
But Islam is the provision of the second phase
Because Muhammad was God's Deputy on Earth
And transfer to his followers in verse and SHURI, including
This aspect of Islam does not recognize democracy
And the other side
And it is important
Islam says that the Koran is a book where all the provisions and can not accept switch and do not change
With the use of force to install his
This is Dean put himself and his stereotyping of contrary to evolution
And Islam does not know the rule of the people for himself
He believes that Islam is the religion of God
And that was ordered Mohammed be valid at all times
This is the essence of Islam
Did not know democracy
The Shura Consultative Council and only accept violation of the ruling because the land Khalifa Mohamed
mahasn ebn sawresho
Well-Known Member
Democracy means evolution
And accept the prejudices eliminates human development
And also think about equality of rights and duties
Islam does not know that equality between women and men
And Muslim and equality did not know of the Prophet Muhammad in Islam
And also does not allow any criticism of Islam, no matter how small
Because the word of God without offense
Therefore we see dictatorial regimes in the countries of Islam very booming
The Governor holds the Quran governs the law of God
This eliminates all opposition to him
And Saudi Arabia the most and most Islamic dictatorship also
But disappear under the banner of the custodian of the dictatorship
And under the banner of the Prophet's descendants
This is not to be a democracy in any Islamic State
And accept the prejudices eliminates human development
And also think about equality of rights and duties
Islam does not know that equality between women and men
And Muslim and equality did not know of the Prophet Muhammad in Islam
And also does not allow any criticism of Islam, no matter how small
Because the word of God without offense
Therefore we see dictatorial regimes in the countries of Islam very booming
The Governor holds the Quran governs the law of God
This eliminates all opposition to him
And Saudi Arabia the most and most Islamic dictatorship also
But disappear under the banner of the custodian of the dictatorship
And under the banner of the Prophet's descendants
This is not to be a democracy in any Islamic State
Actually science has proved that each man has freewill. So humans are perfectly capable of deciding for themselves without being influenced by anyone.
One more thing: if you see that people are promiscuous, you should consider yourself better than them, and be happy for it.
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The fact is that they can't leave their culture, because they would ashame themself of that apparently. Even though not all cultures are good, take human sacrifice in the Aztecs for example.
People can live together, but cultures can't. Unless they are tollerant of others. That's about it atleast. Like if another culture says honor killings, killing for apostacy is the right thing to do, then that's obviously bad!. Sad thing is not all people see the horrors in killing someone for believing in something else, that's like the worst crime of all. Killing someone for not agreeing with you.
But it depends on how it will evolve. Like if they plan on changing their mindset about right and wrong, and not go ape$hit if someone does something against their religion, like depict their prophet or make some jokes about it.
One can simply be like "I don't like it" or to think of it as immature. But to threaten people over it is taking it too far.
I think earlier muslims depicted muhammad, and some today still do this to this day, like Iran for example. But i just imagine that "Shia" to our eyes are the protestants. And "Sunni" are the catholics, the strict ones, holy wars and inquisition people.
But then again, protestants and catholics history is past when it comes to killing who is right.
So i wonder how many years it will take for muslims to settle down and just build up a country for the better without killing who is right and wrong, and just accept some are right and some are wrong. And just end it in a debate or something.
People can live together, but cultures can't. Unless they are tollerant of others. That's about it atleast. Like if another culture says honor killings, killing for apostacy is the right thing to do, then that's obviously bad!. Sad thing is not all people see the horrors in killing someone for believing in something else, that's like the worst crime of all. Killing someone for not agreeing with you.
But it depends on how it will evolve. Like if they plan on changing their mindset about right and wrong, and not go ape$hit if someone does something against their religion, like depict their prophet or make some jokes about it.
One can simply be like "I don't like it" or to think of it as immature. But to threaten people over it is taking it too far.
I think earlier muslims depicted muhammad, and some today still do this to this day, like Iran for example. But i just imagine that "Shia" to our eyes are the protestants. And "Sunni" are the catholics, the strict ones, holy wars and inquisition people.
But then again, protestants and catholics history is past when it comes to killing who is right.
So i wonder how many years it will take for muslims to settle down and just build up a country for the better without killing who is right and wrong, and just accept some are right and some are wrong. And just end it in a debate or something.
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Maybe this means the title of the thread is wrong/misleading? I'm Muslim and I don't hate democracy.
I believe the title is better as Why Don't Muslim Countries Support Democracy or something like that.
It kinda hurts when one is generalized like that
Sorry. I'm not saying all are like that. I have heard news of progressiveness, like there where news of a nobel prize winner for school to educate women in Pakistan "Malala"Maybe this means the title of the thread is wrong/misleading? I'm Muslim and I don't hate democracy.
I believe the title is better as Why Don't Muslim Countries Support Democracy or something like that.
It kinda hurts when one is generalized like that
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Still some have anti western feeling that she may get ideas from the west. According to the news, so some Pakistanis may have this anti western culture feeling. But it may lead to benefits without it going completely overboard, it sounds naive to fear it so much and rather just see benefits of what is for the best of a country in my opinion. I mean i don't see why they should feel threatened by ideas that is not trying to harm people to say the least. That's just my opinions on it.
But like i didn't mean to generalize all people. Sorry if you felt that way ^^
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paarsurrey
Veteran Member
You mean to say that Islam does not hate democracy.
In fact Islam does not advise any specific political system, and leaves the citizens free to adopt whatever system they like, it could be democracy.
It gives prime guidelines which should be upheld in a democratic country; .
1) Democratic process of elections must be based on trust and integrity.
2) Governments must function on the principle of absolute justice.
Regards
But isn't the main problem that theocratic leaders base most of their ideas of a government from the Hadith. Which gives rules to have a society be built on God's laws?
Now i'm not saying its impossible for muslims to be democratic. Indonesia for example is an example that works.
But its kinda hard when someone is really bound deep into the theocratic values and is very convinced that this stuff is real, and follows others who say you must do this. And demand theocracy in other countries they come too.
Its sad that terrorism and these people have painted this religion in a negative view though, but thats the more reason that they should speak more against it to convince people that they do not support it. I mean in Israel for example they have full rights to practice any religion they want, even muslims, Palestine where hamas is, just want that land for muslims and exterminate the jews. Even though it is sad that there are still conflicts on this when one could just share. Since it doesn't really belong to anyone other than planet earth, but have relevant interests of religious people who want to worship there due to holy books etc.
So if one can see core values of equality and freedom of expression. Then democracy in my opinion is the best. But i think more just needs to stand up and speak up against. The problem is they might seem hypocrites. Because... islamic countries use sharia, theocracy, islamic laws.
So how can a muslim criticize a system for not working when one believe in the thing that they use to control a country? So i believe more people should see what benefits it has with religious freedom. That that is the way to truth. To see who is right and who is wrong by embracing it.
I might sound a little preachy. But lets see what you people think ^^
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