why do Muslims Must offer apologizes for individual actions?

[Rick O'Shez]

this is just a guess, but it could be because some islamic preachers promote hatred and radicalism and unless muslims themselves denounce such actions, more muslims might imitate there murderous rampages.

Exactly.

 

[jeager106]

Sure, I agree with all that, and have said as much myself. But the fact remains that if the moderate majority of Muslims don't wholeheartedly condemn these terrorist atrocities there will be a lingering suspicion that maybe some of them condone it.

Exactly. It's been proven some muslim groups do in fact funnel money to terrorist organization.
It appreas the extremists want to use fear of islam as a weapon to ignite an outright war with islam and the west.
Loosing muslim lives to violence seems not to bother many muslims in the least.
One prominant imman publically stated about infidels; " you fear death, we muslims love death and freely exchange our lives for our religion" no doubt believing martyred muslims get zapped into muslim heavenfor the 70 virgin reward.
Right now in France two of the cartoon killers are surrounded by police, the gunmen have a hostage, and in another place in France a muslim dodged bullets from police, got into a grocery store and has taken 5 hostages.
Sounds to me like the islamics have begun the Great Religious War in France.
Too bad the mayor of new York City disbanded the police unit that was investigating potential muslim terrorist activity in N.Y. to potentially protect new Yorkers from what happened in Paris.
The mayor said he didn't want the poilce to investigate any minority group.
Really?
I expect attacks here in the U.S. Many people I know, all infidels, are armed 24/7 expect a terrorist to shoot up a Walmart. Paranoid? Perhaps not.

 

[Woodrow LI]

You don't need to apologize, but asking why should you doesn't make me feel like you are condemning this. Are you?

this is just a guess, but it could be because some islamic preachers promote hatred and radicalism and unless muslims themselves denounce such actions, more muslims might imitate there murderous rampages.

this is something that many non-Muslims do not understand.

I can only speak for myself as a revert to Islam. I accepted Islam 10 years ago and have lived in 4 different states since then. I have attended at least 7 different Mosques and have served as Imam quite often.
Speaking as a Muslim in the USA I find for many probably most of us, we have never heard an Imam give a sermon or lesson about the Qur'an. In most Mosques there is no preaching.

I am finding out preaching is becoming common in the UK but for those of us elsewhere we do not know of Imams that preach.
Preaching and sermons are not something many Muslims encounter. in 10 years and in 4 states I have not encountered one sermon or even one Islamic lesson. All I have learned has been from friends, online searching, much reading etc. But no lessons, sermons or teaching by an Imam in a Mosque.

 

[TG123456]

why do we ask Muslims to offer apologizes for individual actions like what happened in Paris? while we don't do the same when the opposite happened? for examples the arson attacks against mosques in Sweden, three in one week, and nobody asked each Swedish citizen to apology and condemn that actions !!, imagine that happened to the churches in Egypt, i think muslims will receive rough messages

You shouldn't have to apologize for something you didn't do. Muslims are not to blame for the despicable attack in Paris or other acts of violence, like Jews are not to blame for the Israeli government's despicable treatment of Palestinians or Christians for despicable US invasions of countries like Iraq and Panama and Afghanistan.

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

I don't think Muslims have to apologise for these atrocities, but ...

You are constantly whining that moderate Muslims are not doing enough, all while being significantly ignorant about what Muslims are doing.

 

[truth seeker2012]

Which of the various conceivable opposites?

The absence of religiously-motivated violence is one of the opposites, but it makes no sense to apologize for it.

Secularism-inspired violence is another, but it does not seem to happen, so it requires no apology.

burning the quran twice in America by some churches leaders, i think it had a religiously motivated, yes i can't consider it as a violence but it still a too harmeful action, may the western culture could label it under the freedom of speech

Meanwhile, no Muslim seems to deny that Islam does claim that Christianity and Secularism are both misguided or even that God himself told them that.

i think all religions and ideologies claim the same, aren't they?

 

[truth seeker2012]

Asking for them to publicly condemn these acts is not the same as asking them to apologize for them. It is not about blaming all Muslims for terrorism. But it is about asking for help from moderate Muslims in dealing with the problem.

for all my previous life, i used to hear the blaming against Muslims and Islam, maybe my people are too different than others, don't know

 

[Rick O'Shez]

I am finding out preaching is becoming common in the UK but for those of us elsewhere we do not know of Imams that preach.

Yes, there is lot going on the UK. And how do you think the London 7/7 bombers were radicalised?

 

[Rick O'Shez]

You are constantly whining that moderate Muslims are not doing enough, all while being significantly ignorant about what Muslims are doing.

"Whining?" Oh dear! How about debating the topic instead of throwing personal insults?

By the way, I'm Irish and grew up in England during the IRA bombing campaign on the mainland. So I know what it's like to be continually viewed with suspicion.

That doesn't change the way I feel though.

 

[Jumi]

In most Mosques there is no preaching.

That was interesting.

 

[LuisDantas]

i think all religions and ideologies claim the same, aren't they?

How many other religions and ideologies teach that god justifies violence against disbelievers?

 

[Woodrow LI]

Yes, there is lot going on the UK. And how do you think the London 7/7 bombers were radicalised?

This comes to be a question of which came first, the chicken or the egg. I notice a pattern among the most violent radicals. It seems most had a long history of anti-social and/or criminal behavior.

A good many of the "Recruits to ISIS" are angry people and recent converts to "Islam" or I should say the ISIS version of Islam.
Many if not most had no history of previous religious zeal and were not active participants in religious practice.

I doubt that any religious or other leader is going to mesmerize a normal person with a few "sermons"

I contend that in most of these case we had violent people seeking a cause.
People and especially mobs select and foster their leaders, the radicals create the leaders, not the leaders creating the radicals. I once had a Professor of International relations (Dr Viva Rainey, Centenary College of Louisiana) make the statement, "If Hitler had not been born, the German people of the era would have invented him" Finally I understand what she meant.

 

[Iti oj]

The problem isn't with moderate Muslims but your **** poor choice in media.

 

[Laika]

Sure, I agree with all that, and have said as much myself. But the fact remains that if the moderate majority of Muslims don't wholeheartedly condemn these terrorist atrocities there will be a lingering suspicion that maybe some of them condone it.

Why should the Muslim majority be presumed guilty of supporting terrorist atrocities simply because they are Muslim? That's what I'm getting at. Muslims are different to the Judeao-Christian tradition which is dominant western culture; but different doesn't mean evil.

 

[Godobeyer]

You don't need to apologize, but asking why should you doesn't make me feel like you are condemning this. Are you?

feel !!!
you want us make you feel ? i guess feeling is about happy and sadness ...etc not condemnations lol

I condemne it , do you feel that ?

maybe because you newbie ?

 

[Shad]

Muslims should not apologize for the acts of others. No individual should be responsible for another's acts in this way. This playing right into the hands of the terrorists. They want non-Muslims to blame the moderates, they want people to shift blame/responsibility to groups which function within a greater society fine. This gives rise and support to European far-right parties which put greater blame on Muslims in Europe. This isolates moderate Muslims leaving only their religion and ethnic groups as support. This in turn causes people to radicalize which is what the terrorists want. They want everyone to blame Muslims so Muslim communities and other groups became a recruiting ground for radicals.

 

[George-ananda]

actually that what i read in the news, the mosques had been asked to condemn that actions and to prove that Islam doesn't support terrorism and so on

That's not an apology and is something I think mosques should want to do to reaffirm their position to everyone. They should want to educate people that terrorism of this sort is not Islam.

 

[Shad]

In case people were not informed. One of the victims, a police officer, was a Muslim. Given this fact should we not also demand non-Muslims thank Ahmed Merabet for his positive acts? It is very easy to focus on the negative while missing the positive. Food for thought.

 

[Jumi]

feel !!!
you want us make you feel ? i guess feeling is about happy and sadness ...etc not condemnations lol

I was talking about the OP, not in general.

 

[Jumi]

Given this fact should we not also demand non-Muslims thank Ahmed Merabet for his positive acts?

I thank him for being who he was and I'm sorry he lost his life doing what was right.