why do people assume spanking is not harmful?

[dgirl1986]

I think it's far worse to hit a child. Assault in some self-defense thing, I can see. If I get a home invader, I might use force. (He'd have to be might old and slow though.) But on a little kid? Why? It's some sort of perverse sadistic ingrained mechanism.

What do you consider a hit? A slap? I belting? A punch?

 

[Vinayaka]

What do you consider a hit? A slap? I belting? A punch?

Of course the intensity varies. I don't think any of it's necessary. There are almost always better ways. I had to use force on a student once. He had a floor hockey stick and was about to hit another kid, so I forcefully removed it from his hands.

There are times when you have to move your child maybe, by lifting etc. But I'm a bit of a hipocryte too, because I did use force (corporal punishment) on a couple of my kids too. So it's tough all around emotionally.

 

[Father Heathen]

I think the issue here is mostly emotional palatability and little else.

 

[Vinayaka]

What a laughable exaggeration. By your logic a 15 min "time out" on the couch for being naughty is to be considered a form of imprisonment.

Agreed on the laughable exaggeration, but I laughed at your 'spanking builds character' too. Time-outs usually work wonders with kids. So does jail for some adults.

Here's another link to more studies... http://www.parents.com/toddlers-preschoolers/discipline/spanking/spanking-discipline-debate/

 

[Vinayaka]

Sweden was the first country by far, but in the last few years, there have been many. Surprisingly, even South Sudan, and Kenya are in the group. Sadly, Canada isn't.

States with full abolition

And happily, another 21 countries are almost there. http://www.endcorporalpunishment.or...lpunishment.org/pages/progress/countdown.html

 

[pegasus]

I think the issue here is mostly emotional palatability and little else.

what is palatability?

 

[Me Myself]

The majority of people I have met that were spanked as children, suffer from all kinds of issues because of it. And only a few of them actually are ok. When will people stop assuming things solely based on their own experience. I was also spanked and I can honestly say, I am ****** up.

It is regular practice in Ecuador. I ve met many that said they were happy they were spanked cause only at way they would have learned.

I was spanked only two times I think. While it hurt and ñi cried and all, the real thing that I remember the most was the face of mother... She really felt terrible while doing it.

Ironically, I didnt change may ways, and oarents noticed that leaving me without TV was way more effective. It "hurted" me way more than physical ephimeral pain did.

Then again, culture can make thins change a lot. If you were spanked and everyone tells you thats abuse, of course you will get issues out of it, because now you think your parents "abused " you.

I prefer US laws on the issue because it is easier to regulate and avoid the grey areas. I cant imagine myself physically hurting someone for correction. Well, unless I am correcting someone that is trying to physically hurt me that is.

 

[Me Myself]

If we're comparing a few slaps on the butt to an "abusive beating", then we can compare chocolate to vegetables.

Agreed.

Though as I said, I honestly think the US system is best to regulate.

 

[pegasus]

When children act out, it's because they subconsciously desire a spanking.

Any proof of that? As far as I am concerned. Kids who act out. Do it because they need attention. And compared to no attention at all, spanking is better. At least that way they get attention. But it's the attention they desire. Not the spanking itself.

 

[Me Myself]

Spanking is considered child abuse and is thus illegal here, and yet this country doesn't have less well-behaved children than any other country. Why allow corporal punishment towards children when it's illegal towards adults?

Its ilegal to emprison adults against their will in your house too.

Not being allowed to do that with your children sounds problematic to me.

 

[Father Heathen]

but I laughed at your 'spanking builds character' too.

Good. I would be alarmed if anyone thought it was a serious statement, especially in such a non-serious thread.

 

[Vinayaka]

Ironically, I didnt change may ways,

Not ironic at all. Very common for it to be totally ineffective. In fact that's the primary reason why many psychologists argue against it.

 

[Father Heathen]

Any proof of that? As far as I am concerned. Kids who act out. Do it because they need attention. And compared to no attention at all, spanking is better. At least that way they get attention. But it's the attention they desire. Not the spanking itself.

It's best to spank preemptively.

 

[pegasus]

It's best to spank preemptively.

preemptively, meaning?

 

[Falvlun]

Not all spanking is bad and not all spanking is good.

To be honest, I'd prefer some kids got a whack in the behind rather than grow up to be disrespectful, lazy hoodlums.

 

[Me Myself]

Not all spanking is bad and not all spanking is good.

To be honest, I'd prefer some kids got a whack in the behind rather than grow up to be disrespectful, lazy hoodlums.

I would think this.

 

[pegasus]

Not all spanking is bad and not all spanking is good.

To be honest, I'd prefer some kids got a whack in the behind rather than grow up to be disrespectful, lazy hoodlums.

I personally know quite a few who were spanked and are a holly terror.