Jimmy
King Phenomenon
One can’t ignore truth. However it can be replaced with non truths.
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Why do people believe what they believe?
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Tony B
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The good news is that much of the rest of the world is bucking the trend so not everywhere will become a moral cesspit where babies are murdered for body parts and the elderly and sick are encouraged to kill themselves etc. Enjoy that secular 'morality' where anything and everything goes...
People do it all the time. It's called denial.
In most cases, we don't know what the truth is and have no way to claim it even if it is recognized. The best that we can do is show that something is logical and consistent.
I agree with your latter claim. We can substitute what is clearly not truth.
firedragon
Veteran Member
Because there is a fact called "absolute truth". Just because your theology tries to equalize all theologies while there are fundamental conflicts in each, without addressing them making this fleeting statements don't make what you says "absolute truth". I understand this is the effort of the Bahai faith to make everyone feel good about themselves and draw them in to your own theology but it's absurd.
Before humans discovered the Everest was the tallest mountain from the level of the sea, it was still the Everest. Even if their subjective knowledge was ignorant or not. Before humans discovered its heliocentric the fact remained even though subjective truths were conflicting. A conflict of subjective truths does not mean it's objective truth.
You are making one of the most absurd arguments.
Trailblazer
Veteran Member
That is only your personal opinion. We all have those.
There are many explanations within my religion, the Bahai Faith, and below are some.
"The Purpose of the one true God, exalted be His glory, in revealing Himself unto men is to lay bare those gems that lie hidden within the mine of their true and inmost selves. That the divers communions of the earth, and the manifold systems of religious belief, should never be allowed to foster the feelings of animosity among men, is, in this Day, of the essence of the Faith of God and His Religion. These principles and laws, these firmly-established and mighty systems, have proceeded from one Source, and are the rays of one Light. That they differ one from another is to be attributed to the varying requirements of the ages in which they were promulgated."
"The All-Knowing Physician hath His finger on the pulse of mankind. He perceiveth the disease, and prescribeth, in His unerring wisdom, the remedy. Every age hath its own problem, and every soul its particular aspiration. The remedy the world needeth in its present-day afflictions can never be the same as that which a subsequent age may require. Be anxiously concerned with the needs of the age ye live in, and center your deliberations on its exigencies and requirements."
Bahá'í Reference Library - Gleanings From the Writings of Bahá’u’lláh, Page 213
reference.bahai.org
There are multiple religions because the remedy the world needs in every age is different. The remedy that is needed in the present day is not the the same as what was needed in the past. Hinduism, as religions with multiple deities is 5000 years old. The people living in those times were not yet ready to understand that there is only one God.
There is only one eternal Religion of God, but that religion needs to be renewed in every new age. The passage below explains why renewal is necessary.
"It is, therefore, clear and evident that the Religion of God does not maintain its original principles among the people, but that it has gradually changed and altered until it has been entirely destroyed and annihilated. Because of this the manifestation is renewed, and a new religion established. But if religions did not change and alter, there would be no need of renewal.
In the beginning the tree was in all its beauty, and full of blossoms and fruits, but at last it became old and entirely fruitless, and it withered and decayed. This is why the True Gardener plants again an incomparable young tree of the same kind and species, which grows and develops day by day, and spreads a wide shadow in the divine garden, and yields admirable fruit. So it is with religions; through the passing of time they change from their original foundation, the truth of the Religion of God entirely departs, and the spirit of it does not stay; heresies appear, and it becomes a body without a soul. That is why it is renewed."
Christianity is the largest religion in the world right now, but it will soon be the second largest religion as it is surpassed by Islam.
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According to Pew Research Center, Islam is expected to surpass Christianity as the world's largest religion around 2070. This is due to a number of factors, including:
- Population growth: The world's population is expected to increase by 35% between 2010 and 2050.
- Muslim fertility rate: Muslims have a higher fertility rate than Christians, averaging 2.9 children per woman compared to 2.6.
- Rapid growth: Islam is growing more quickly than any other religion in the world.
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Trailblazer
Veteran Member
I said: Why do some people consider the existence of God to be self-evident while others think that belief in God has no basis?
I am not making an argument for the existence of God.
Trailblazer
Veteran Member
So do I, but I personally believe in different surprises than you believe in.
I also think that people living today will not get those surprises until they die.
Tony B
Member
So essentially what your faith is, is one that appears to be set up by the New World Order to usher in the 'one world religion'. It's simply a new age construct with no real basis in fact or evidence. It's not even remotely comparable to Christianity, evidentially or doctrinally. There is no question that Christ walked the earth, no serious historian disputes this, this alone sets it apart from all other religions, an actual deity walking the earth, witnessed by thousands performing miracles, the other things that separates Christianity from all other religions is salvation through grace alone. With all due respect, your religion is built on sand and passes no serious scrutiny.
Trailblazer
Veteran Member
Christianity is just as truthful as my religion, the Baha'i Faith.
It is not a matter of which religion is more truthful, it is a matter of which religion is more pertinent to the age we live in.
Tony B
Member
Sorry but that's absurd, truth is not subjective, and time does not determine the truth. Christianity is applicable to all time, it's not something that can be changed or moulded, it is the absolute truth, demonstrably so.
Trailblazer
Veteran Member
I believe that the Baha'i Faith is completely true.
Tony B
Member
I'm sure you do, but there's nothing to support that.
Trailblazer
Veteran Member
Only God has the absolute truth, and we are not privy to it.
I find it interesting that this answer is usually from Hindus. For me, it also includes experiences from past lives. The question also serves as a great example to the diversity of human experience.
Tony B
Member
He gives it to us via the Bible, so yes we are.
Kathryn
It was on fire when I laid down on it.
I don't know what sort of surprises we are all in for. I bet you don't either.