Notanumber
A Free Man
Was Jesus the First Muslim?
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Why do people hate Muslims?
- Thread starter Nakosis
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Was Jesus the First Muslim?
psychoslice
Veteran Member
I think the question should be why Muslims hate everyone except themselves. lets be real here and not beat around the bush.
psychoslice
Veteran Member
Notanumber
A Free Man
A very informative video that explains how Islamics are like timeshare salesmen but they use terrorism instead of free gifts.
Instead of going to the local Mosque and believing whatever they are told, anyone that wants to learn about Islam should be going to the Quran and the Hadith to find out what Islam really teaches.
Ignorance is essential for the spread of Islam. If enough people eventually become informed, Islam will lose the atmosphere of ignorance that it depends on.
Nothing poses a greater threat to Islam than an informed population of free people. Be one of those people.
David Wood I salute you.
Kelly of the Phoenix
Well-Known Member
And that's worse than what fundie Christians are doing?
Have you seen what's going on in Syria? Did Jesus teach you to love people so much you wish they stayed in a bombed out hell hole with chemical gas attacks?
I've met plenty of redneck WASP men who think the same way.
Women under biblical law don't have rights either.
People should read the bible and learn why they believe they should befriend you and then convert you to Christianity.
Notanumber
A Free Man
Do you have a link to the Christian equivalent of Sharia Law so we can compare them?
meghanwaterlillies
Well-Known Member
Suppose you could tell me what islam is?
umm without prophets for a second?
Notanumber
A Free Man
meghanwaterlillies
Well-Known Member
I still want an know.
meghanwaterlillies
Well-Known Member
Sorry but I go back a long ways.
Mongol were highly tolerant of most religions during the early Mongol Empire, and typically sponsored several at the same time. At the time of Genghis Khan in the 13th century, virtually every religion had found converts, from Buddhism to Christianity and Manichaeanism to Islam.
Genghis Khan's grandson Berke converted to Islam due to the efforts of Saif ud-Din Dervish, a dervish from Khorazm, thus Berke became one of the first Mongol rulers to convert. Other Mongol leaders owed their conversion to Islam due to the influence of a Muslim wife.
They also liked to salt the land, as being cursed.
Trade and friendship treaty of 1916[edit]
The relations between Germany and Afghanistan began before World War I. Relations between these two countries have historically been friendly.[3]
The second German-Afghan meeting between Habibullah Khan and a 23-member German delegation took place in 1915. The main intentions of this delegation was to weaken British influence in Afghanistan as part of the Niedermayer-Hentig expedition.[4] However, during this expedition in 1916 a friendly trade-agreement occurred.[5] The trade contracted concluded even though there were prior diplomatic relations between these countries. According to the Treaty of 24 January 1916 the German delegation to the Government of Afghanistan was promised 100,000 rifles and 300 guns.[6]
A friendship agreement was made on March 3, 1926.[7] With recognition of the ambassadors in both these countries. In 1926 the prior existing friendship and trade agreement of 24 January 1916 was ratified.
Diplomatic relations and accreditation of consul and ambassadors 1922[edit]
The first Afghan delegation to Germany occurred in 1922 where the delegation traveled to Berlin for talks on diplomacy, trade and cultural relations. In response Germany sent Dr. Fritz Grobba to Afghanistan in 1932. For the first year he worked as Consul in Kabul, acting as the de facto German embassy, until 1926 then managing the ambassadors work in Kabul. The "Embassy" titled as the Diplomatic representation and the residence of the minister plenipotentiary was located in Kabul near the Gardens of Babur.[8]
Afghanistan established close ties with Germany in 1935, seeking an alternative to its historical position as a contested territory between Russia and Britain. Afghanistan resisted calls from Moscow and London to expel the Italian and German diplomatic corps for most of the Second World War. At the end of the Second World War the German military donated its remaining arsenal to Afghanistan as a sign of good faith for its neutral stance during the war.[9
Mongol were highly tolerant of most religions during the early Mongol Empire, and typically sponsored several at the same time. At the time of Genghis Khan in the 13th century, virtually every religion had found converts, from Buddhism to Christianity and Manichaeanism to Islam.
Genghis Khan's grandson Berke converted to Islam due to the efforts of Saif ud-Din Dervish, a dervish from Khorazm, thus Berke became one of the first Mongol rulers to convert. Other Mongol leaders owed their conversion to Islam due to the influence of a Muslim wife.
They also liked to salt the land, as being cursed.
Trade and friendship treaty of 1916[edit]
The relations between Germany and Afghanistan began before World War I. Relations between these two countries have historically been friendly.[3]
The second German-Afghan meeting between Habibullah Khan and a 23-member German delegation took place in 1915. The main intentions of this delegation was to weaken British influence in Afghanistan as part of the Niedermayer-Hentig expedition.[4] However, during this expedition in 1916 a friendly trade-agreement occurred.[5] The trade contracted concluded even though there were prior diplomatic relations between these countries. According to the Treaty of 24 January 1916 the German delegation to the Government of Afghanistan was promised 100,000 rifles and 300 guns.[6]
A friendship agreement was made on March 3, 1926.[7] With recognition of the ambassadors in both these countries. In 1926 the prior existing friendship and trade agreement of 24 January 1916 was ratified.
Diplomatic relations and accreditation of consul and ambassadors 1922[edit]
The first Afghan delegation to Germany occurred in 1922 where the delegation traveled to Berlin for talks on diplomacy, trade and cultural relations. In response Germany sent Dr. Fritz Grobba to Afghanistan in 1932. For the first year he worked as Consul in Kabul, acting as the de facto German embassy, until 1926 then managing the ambassadors work in Kabul. The "Embassy" titled as the Diplomatic representation and the residence of the minister plenipotentiary was located in Kabul near the Gardens of Babur.[8]
Afghanistan established close ties with Germany in 1935, seeking an alternative to its historical position as a contested territory between Russia and Britain. Afghanistan resisted calls from Moscow and London to expel the Italian and German diplomatic corps for most of the Second World War. At the end of the Second World War the German military donated its remaining arsenal to Afghanistan as a sign of good faith for its neutral stance during the war.[9
meghanwaterlillies
Well-Known Member
America only didn't finish between these.
They were about to have finished the irrigation system.
But if you look at old Afghanistan and see pictures of people that look like they are liberated and stuff; it usually is one of the American families that went there.
Britain was not aloud to "intervene." So they used Americans to the land thing, while in a depression.
Zahir went to Italy.
It's not really that much it's that there is some Kahn values mixed with islam (sometimes one or two can be lighter than the other) and the land didn't get cropped fully; until then.
Then cow god stuff you know. And a major fur trade.
A Cautionary Tale About Transforming Afghanistan
They were about to have finished the irrigation system.
But if you look at old Afghanistan and see pictures of people that look like they are liberated and stuff; it usually is one of the American families that went there.
Britain was not aloud to "intervene." So they used Americans to the land thing, while in a depression.
Zahir went to Italy.
It's not really that much it's that there is some Kahn values mixed with islam (sometimes one or two can be lighter than the other) and the land didn't get cropped fully; until then.
Then cow god stuff you know. And a major fur trade.
A Cautionary Tale About Transforming Afghanistan
meghanwaterlillies
Well-Known Member
This is why I don't see people like products.
Even if I hold a book and believe in it too.
Or even like when I get mad at piece of the book I use where I can see-- where they forced worship of angels or going half virgins.
Even if I hold a book and believe in it too.
Or even like when I get mad at piece of the book I use where I can see-- where they forced worship of angels or going half virgins.
Servant_of_the_One1
Well-Known Member
It is in the nature of mankind that humans would hate truth and her followers.
And thus did We make for every prophet an enemy, the Shaitans(devils) from among men and jinn, some of them suggesting to others varnished falsehood to deceive (them), and had your Lord pleased they would not have done it, therefore leave them and that which they forge. (6:112)
And the Jews will not be pleased with you, nor the Christians until you follow their religion. Say: Surely Allah's guidance, that is the (true) guidance. And if you follow their desires after the knowledge that has come to you, you shall have no guardian from Allah, nor any helper. (2:120)
Ironically their hatred would cost them dearly on a day
(Judgement day)when they need help the most.
Even 5 seconds break from punishment would be more beloved to them than this whole world and all of her wealth.
And surely We are Best Aware of those most worthy to be burned therein (19:70).
And thus did We make for every prophet an enemy, the Shaitans(devils) from among men and jinn, some of them suggesting to others varnished falsehood to deceive (them), and had your Lord pleased they would not have done it, therefore leave them and that which they forge. (6:112)
And the Jews will not be pleased with you, nor the Christians until you follow their religion. Say: Surely Allah's guidance, that is the (true) guidance. And if you follow their desires after the knowledge that has come to you, you shall have no guardian from Allah, nor any helper. (2:120)
Ironically their hatred would cost them dearly on a day
(Judgement day)when they need help the most.
Even 5 seconds break from punishment would be more beloved to them than this whole world and all of her wealth.
And surely We are Best Aware of those most worthy to be burned therein (19:70).
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meghanwaterlillies
Well-Known Member
I don't know what you are talking about exactly; I see people not really muslims or Christian or whatever unless they want to put a sticker on themselves.
Ironically it's the internet playing phycology and social meme, tantras in some cases, memes, but they get in trouble.
And you cant even pick one place where.
meghanwaterlillies
Well-Known Member
They are playing up parallels. Where their social media is evolving. So they get someone hooked and lead them down a social path that is unhelpful and then they tell them who to blame or falsely accuse.
For the no love phycology I hope they don't.
gnostic
The Lost One
Sorry, but that's really not entirely true, Servant.
It may be somewhat true, among some sects of Christianity.
But in Judaism, there are no requirement for Jews to seek others - "outsiders" - to converts.
Although, Jews can accept new people with no ancestry to one of the 12 tribes of Israel (particularly tribe of Judah) - the ancestors of Jacob - as converts, Jews don't actively seek and preach to gentile to join their religion.
It is mainly Christians and Muslims that seek and preach to non-Christians and non-Muslims, for conversions.
That's the difference between Jews and those that are Christians and Muslims.
In Judaism, becoming Jews are mostly tied to their ancestry to any one of the 12 tribes.
Magpie1978
New Member
Islam is a false religion basically ripping off the bible and the fact a bloke called mo went into a cave with no food or water for a certain amount of days and started hearing and seeing things - well that would happen to anyone in that situation - yet a religion was founded on this!!!!!
Apparently mo was illiterate so it was others who supposedly wrote all his delusional stories
Muslims are gullible fools and if the bible was copyrighted at the time then Islam would be liable for a massive fine
I'm not Jewish but the jews are gods people since ancient times
Apparently mo was illiterate so it was others who supposedly wrote all his delusional stories
Muslims are gullible fools and if the bible was copyrighted at the time then Islam would be liable for a massive fine
I'm not Jewish but the jews are gods people since ancient times
MrMrdevincamus
Voice Of The Martyrs Supporter
Islams holy book writes that Jesus was a prophet not a deity. I know Jesus was a deity. That Jesus walked the earth is a no brainier among scholars today. When he is referred to by scholars he is called the 'historical Jesus' (mostly for those that have no say on his deity etc.) So what do I call those who believe Jesus Christ existed ? I call them 100% correct and entitled to eternal life via the blood of Jesus !
MrMrdevincamus
Voice Of The Martyrs Supporter
Well said! The only reason I mention Jesus to others is I am bound to by my religion to do so. Also I love my fellow man and women so much as not to be able to walk away without saying anything.. Most atheists and skeptics do not believe me when I say its like trying to communicate to a blind deaf mute standing on a train track that a train is coming, but they just stand there. However I have learned that screaming or other fire and brimstone tactics rarely work. So I move on to the next unbeliever after quietly telling the friend about Jesus one time that's he is about to throw away a chance for eternal life. A truth for the most part only needs to be whispered.
God bless this forum~
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