Why do R C fear debate more than other Christians

[Greatest I am]

Why do R C fear debate more than other Christians?

I was born R C but my respect for my own has been steadily eroded by the fact that I have been ejected, from most R C forums that I have found and joined. Sometimes with no reason given and once simply because of my name and avatar.

The tolerance that I find in these R C sites is basically non existent and even before posting anything I look at various topic and see that the closed ones are mostly those that go towards debate.
In looking at various posters that are banned I see that some are banned for fairly non controversial subjects and that few debates on the morals of scripture are allowed.

I do tend to get in some trouble at some Fundamental sites but see some tolerance in most of them.
R C sites though are what I would call fully intolerant.

Do R C fear debate that much that their moderators must be so intolerant that no decent from the status quo dogma is allowed?

Why do they show such fear of normal debate?

Is it the same mind set that made the old Church brand scientists as heretics if their science did not back up the Church view, or is the fear of debate they show from some other source?

Regards
DL

 

[Mister Emu]

We don't

from most R C forums that I have found and joined. Sometimes with no reason given and once simply because of my name and avatar.

Most Catholic forums are there for Catholic debate, to get away from the incessant "Pope is the anti-christ", "Catholics aren't Christian", talk, so they are insular...

Why do they show such fear of normal debate?

As I said, we don't... and I explained the reason above for Catholic only forums...

 

[ChristineES]

Not only do non-Christians and non-theists attack catholics, so do other Christians- they, as Emu pointed out, get tired of those attacks and wish to discuss things among themselves.

 

[Quiddity]

1. Catholicism can be very beefy in it's theology, morality, philosophy, etc. Not many catholics know that much to explain things to you.
2. The vast majority of non-catholics going to Catholic forums aren't really interested in going that deep into conversations but probably just want to be trolls.
3. Catholics aren't heavy into the marketing and sales business. Protestants are much better at that. We just tend to be more prone of making our points without using words.
4. Keep in mind that the Catholic Church has had 23 major Councils. All of which have had intense debate. In some cases, even fist fights......This resistance isn't a "catholic thing" but people in general are wary of insiders and especially outsiders poking around at things they hold dear.
5. To add to no. 4......The Catholic Church has been through wars, empires, dictators, collapses, myriad of other things that have caused it to both grow and understand what human confrontation can cause.

Trust me, there is tons of debate within the Catholic Church.

 

[logician]

I went to a Catholic University for a time, and found that my Catholic friends felt that Catholicism was the "official" version of Xianity, while all other denominations somehow went astray along the way. I think there is a certain amount of arrogance among the Catholic community in this regard, depending, of course, on the type of congregation you may be in.

 

[Jordan St. Francis]

I went to a Catholic University for a time, and found that my Catholic friends felt that Catholicism was the "official" version of Xianity, while all other denominations somehow went astray along the way. I think there is a certain amount of arrogance among the Catholic community in this regard, depending, of course, on the type of congregation you may be in.

And we never see arrogance from yourself, of course.

 

[McBell]

I went to a Catholic University for a time, and found that my Catholic friends felt that Catholicism was the "official" version of Xianity, while all other denominations somehow went astray along the way. I think there is a certain amount of arrogance among the Catholic community in this regard, depending, of course, on the type of congregation you may be in.

Now replace "Catholic" with any other religious denomination and you will find the exact same 'elitism', arrogance, etc.

So in a nutshell, Catholics do not hold any monopoly on it.

 

[Greatest I am]

Not only do non-Christians and non-theists attack catholics, so do other Christians- they, as Emu pointed out, get tired of those attacks and wish to discuss things among themselves.

To the point of banning a this R C who just questions.
When not banned because of my name or avatar that is.

Regards
DL

 

[Greatest I am]

We don't


Most Catholic forums are there for Catholic debate, to get away from the incessant "Pope is the anti-christ", "Catholics aren't Christian", talk, so they are insular...


...

Catholic means universal. How does that compute with insular?

Regards
DL

 

[Greatest I am]

Now replace "Catholic" with any other religious denomination and you will find the exact same 'elitism', arrogance, etc.

So in a nutshell, Catholics do not hold any monopoly on it.

True to some extent. Catholic sites though are competing with Islam for intolerance in my experience.

Regards
DL

 

[Mister Emu]

Catholic means universal. How does that compute with insular?

The forums are insular, not the faith itself...

 

[Jordan St. Francis]

I much rather post here than on the Catholic Answer Forums. It is true- they do aggressively ban and many of the posters appear, to me, to be exceedingly dim.

But it is an evangelical outreach. The website is there to convert, and I think, especially to recover fallen away Catholics. This probably accounts for much of its environment.

 

[Greatest I am]

The forums are insular, not the faith itself...

Rather hard for a faith to be when it's members are not.

:areyoucra
or are they?

Regards
DL

 

[Greatest I am]

I much rather post here than on the Catholic Answer Forums. It is true- they do aggressively ban and many of the posters appear, to me, to be exceedingly dim.

But it is an evangelical outreach. The website is there to convert, and I think, especially to recover fallen away Catholics. This probably accounts for much of its environment.

Perhaps.
It is hard to recover a fallen member when his issues or questions are not dealt with.

Do you consider Catholics to be Christians? Some here think not.

Regards
DL

 

[Jordan St. Francis]

Of course I do, I am Catholic.

 

[Mister Emu]

I much rather post here than on the Catholic Answer Forums.

Indeed... I rarely spend time on faith specific forums...

Rather hard for a faith to be when it's members are not.

*sigh* I can't speak for many of the people, but I didn't say they were... I said the forums were, those forums may not be there for outreach, they might be there for refuge.

 

[Greatest I am]

Indeed... I rarely spend time on faith specific forums...


*sigh* I can't speak for many of the people, but I didn't say they were... I said the forums were, those forums may not be there for outreach, they might be there for refuge.

Perhaps. Your view strengthens mine in terms of their fear.

They are certainly not there to hone their religion. This may be why they are losing the battle for the souls of men.

Regards
DL

 

[Mister Emu]

Perhaps. Your view strengthens mine in terms of their fear.

They are, from my experience, tired, not afraid. You can only hear "the Pope is the anti-Christ", "Satan rules the vatican", "Rome is whore of babylon from Revelation" so many times before you want to actually discuss things in an air of mutual respect...

 

[Jordan St. Francis]

Catholics are not afraid to discuss. From my observation, Catholicism is one of the broadest intellectual traditions with its head deeper than an other Christian division [at least at the official level] in philosophical discussion.

 

[Greatest I am]

They are, from my experience, tired, not afraid. You can only hear "the Pope is the anti-Christ", "Satan rules the vatican", "Rome is whore of babylon from Revelation" so many times before you want to actually discuss things in an air of mutual respect...

Respect must be earned. If Catholics do not try to earn it then they will shrink and die. If they cannot earn it then they should wonder why not and the answer lies in debate.

Regards
DL