Correct, why do we care? I think the answer is because we are emotional beings and emotions are hard to control.
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Why do so many religious people care what others believe?
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DavidFirth
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Oh, okay. Yeah, you're right. Some of the TV preachers try to shame people into giving them money, which is pathetic and disgusting.
Yes, such a good point. I think that being open minded enough to just listen to what someone else believes, and why they do...can be so amazingly insightful. I never would have thought I'd find value in the LHP. Seriously, I thought it was a demonic path, at one time. But, my eyes have been opened by some amazing people on this site and another site I've joined, and so...what does that hurt to have my mind opened? We lose nothing and gain everything. This fear of appreciating others' faiths makes no sense to me, anymore.
Absolutely brother. Stereotypes rob people of their humanity in the eyes of those who keep them. We should never regard each other as , that Muslim, or that Christian, or whatever. If we all regard each other as first, human beings and deserving of kindness and respect and then have polite dialogue about our beliefs the world would be a much better place. I know that personally having conversations with you regarding your religion of Islam has given me a much wider and more positive view of your faith. And for that I thank you.
In general my understanding to religions or trusting to others religous(non-Muslims) is changed since I came here
Unforunetly there is some steoretypes everywhere,for exemple in Arabs community.
All non-Muslims are not trustful,women are not faithful...etc, but they forget that there are many Muslims are not trustful and women are not faithful...
Actualy RF made big impact in my life.
It's all about morals and how I being treated by,not about religion tag, or being agree all time,I mean we can't force we other to belief in same way
Presidents still claim to be Christian, mostly Protestant. The only one I know who wasn't was Kennedy and he got shot.
Mister Silver
Faith's Nightmare
Catholics aren't Christian?
I'll say that when you hold something near to your heart that you believe in, that brings you joy...you want others to have that same joy. So, that makes sense. I get it. And that, is a beautiful thing. If people would express it like that, the exchanges would be better, more fruitful...more open.
There those, like myself, that want to know how everything works. I took my mini-bike apart to see what makes it go when I was 11. Sure it never ran again after I put it together. Probably because of all of the "extra" parts I had.
I suppose I'm kinda the same way with people. I like to see what makes them tick.
Mister Silver
Faith's Nightmare
According to anthropology, morality existed before religion. Religion always claims this monopoly on morality when in fact morality can be had without any adherence to religion.
Mister Silver
Faith's Nightmare
hehe, Zen and the art of motorcycle maintenance.
Father Heathen
Veteran Member
I think it's because people tend to intertwine their pride and identity with their beliefs, be they religious, political, etc.
But, the point is...when I hear that the US was founded on Christian principles, it's sort of embarrassing that slave ownership, the slaughtering of American Indians, women not being permitted to vote, etc...is part of the history that runs parallel to ''Christian principles.'' What were these Christian principles? It seems to me that only a certain group was privileged (not a word I like, but it fits here) while others...like African Americans, native Americans and women were not treated equal. I can't see Jesus in any of that, you know?
osgart
Nothing my eye, Something for sure
I care about what others believe for a different reason. I would hope the majority of people would believe things that are civil and don't impede on just freedoms that we have.
there are right and wrongs in a general sense that apply to everybody, but beyond those, believe whatever you wish, and live as you please.
when someone expects conformity , I say I have free will to reject or accept any of it, the freedom not to be forced into anything.
I conform to the basics of morality in general, but beyond that evidence is needed so I can weight it's validity.
I find it hard to understand people who don't have basic simple universals of moral conduct; it makes me believe they just want what they want, regardless of its right or wrong implications. they seem to think they can tread on whomever they like, as long as it suits them.
I realize not all consciences are the same, but there is an underlying truth that has nothing to do with religion as it's known. nobody owns the truth, but life itself, lives and dies because of it. either chaos or order, civilty, or mayhem.
evidence must support the justification, some things are self evident, and others are revealed otherwise. to me that is an absolute.
there are right and wrongs in a general sense that apply to everybody, but beyond those, believe whatever you wish, and live as you please.
when someone expects conformity , I say I have free will to reject or accept any of it, the freedom not to be forced into anything.
I conform to the basics of morality in general, but beyond that evidence is needed so I can weight it's validity.
I find it hard to understand people who don't have basic simple universals of moral conduct; it makes me believe they just want what they want, regardless of its right or wrong implications. they seem to think they can tread on whomever they like, as long as it suits them.
I realize not all consciences are the same, but there is an underlying truth that has nothing to do with religion as it's known. nobody owns the truth, but life itself, lives and dies because of it. either chaos or order, civilty, or mayhem.
evidence must support the justification, some things are self evident, and others are revealed otherwise. to me that is an absolute.
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Me too. But, you let it end there. You don't try to change people.
As I go deeper into this thread, I'm seeing the issue is less with "caring what others believe" than it is about proselytizing.
It has been my experience that healthy discussion between or among people with different beliefs about these beliefs can be quite productive and exhilarating.
The issue arises when one person believes his/her beliefs are more correct than another's and s/he begins to tell another how s/he should believe.
It has been my experience that healthy discussion between or among people with different beliefs about these beliefs can be quite productive and exhilarating.
The issue arises when one person believes his/her beliefs are more correct than another's and s/he begins to tell another how s/he should believe.
That's making the huge assumption that the other person would get great joy out of what you do/believe. It's like offering someone chocolate (assuming you LOVE chocolate) when they may not like chocolate.
It has been my experience 100% of the time, in business and personal life that those who boast of their Christian principles have none. You want me to know of your faith? Show me by your actions toward others, don't tell me. Actions speak much louder than words, as the saying goes.
I'm going to have to agree with you here. Actions are what really bother me. Believe what you want, but be careful about pushing it on others. I actually enjoy reading about religious beliefs when believers aren't making an obvious attempt to convert me. Healthy discussion is how you'll actually get through to me because that's when I'm actually enjoying the conversation.