Peace be with you Laika, your response to this thread has warmed me to you. The irony you present isn't lost on me. Those who speak against Islam are the ones doing all the finger pointing here on RF. Meanwhile we Muslims, the silent minority, are rolling eyeballs. Turbo eyerolls.
As for Muslims with SSA (same sex attraction), A Muslim youtube channel didn't see a problem with filming an entire series with a Muslim man who has same sex attraction - of course the man himself is chaste. Here is one segment, of Paul (who has SSA) talking with Hussain. Both are Muslim. Filmed at the prestigious Regents Park Mosque:
Very calm, rational conversation. Quite endearing actually.
It's funny. When the very same posters who have an issue with Moozlums, wonder why the medical establishments are literally packed with Muslim Doctors, Physicians and Nurses etc. They can't work it out? Now you know why I stay silent. There is no reasoning with the "unreasonable" types. Just read through this thread. You'd think, after the number of years Muslims have posted rebuttals to commonly held misconceptions here on RF, there would be a change of wind... but no. Can't reason with them. They've shut their ears and blabbered their tongues ignorantly believing their islamophobic narrative is the only one which sticks.
I certainly am not here for that. If any of these members truly wanted to learn about Islam, they'd do so. But all they seem to do is feed their bias against it.
Here is one quote:
The Qur'an: 2nd Chapter, Al Baqarah (The Cow) [Heffer]
6. Verily, those who disbelieve, it is the same to them whether you (O Muhammad Peace be upon him ) warn them or do not warn them, they will not believe.
Which is why it is pointless attempting to reason with the unreasonable types
7. Allah has set a seal on their hearts and on their hearings, (i.e. they are closed from accepting Allah's Guidance), and on their eyes there is a covering. Theirs will be a great torment.
Sad as this is, it is what it is - but the non believers should't care about some "torment" they do not believe in. This is, after all, not their belief. So they have no right to cry about it.
8. And of mankind, there are some (hypocrites) who say: "We believe in Allah and the Last Day" while in fact they believe not.
9. They (think to) deceive Allah and those who believe, while they only deceive themselves, and perceive (it) not!
Many who are in for a penny and out for a pound. Including scholars for the dollars. God alone knows who is a true believer and who is not
10. In their hearts is a disease (of doubt and hypocrisy) and Allah has increased their disease. A painful torment is theirs because they used to tell lies.
Of the hypocrites and those whom are clear in disbelief, are you not reminded of any members on this forum ??? such as those who would feed each others bias to speak so vehemently opposed to Islam???
11. And when it is said to them: "Make not mischief on the earth," they say: "We are only peacemakers."
Ah, bingo... today we have the likes of Trump, and others who came before him - from the America's and Europe - these leaders who supposedly speak for their respective nations but in reality only speak for the powerhouses they represent. Did the Million Man March in London stop Tony Blair from invading Iraq on the pretense of "Weapons of Mass Destruction" ??? Will similar narratives stop Trump? Did they stop the two Bush's? I can carry on, and on.
12. Verily! They are the ones who make mischief, but they perceive not.
Clear as day to me, and to you! Unless you too "perceive it not"
Peace!
] and I know what its getting at. I have experienced the sort of wall of pseudo-responses, where people are merely repeating half-remembered phases/excuses for not agreeing with or believing something. you get the responses that have been "programmed" and "conditioned" into people and it is very hard to get them to let their defences down and reconsider. They will stand by those positions forcefully, consistently and it makes absolutely no difference how much evidence you give them they are wrong. So the idea of "a seal has been set on their hearts and on their hearings" ..."and on their eyes a coverings" makes perfect sense to me. Its something I have grown use to on RF and am guilty of when I have feigned greater knowledge about a subject than I actually have. That has proven to be a strange benefit of being on RF as you quickly learn how we deceive ourselves if we are receptive to it. 