Why do you say" you have to prove your personal faith and beliefs"

[mikkel_the_dane]

I am asking you to justify your claim that I was wrong, when i said it was absurd to claim all beliefs should be respected. I gave you several examples, you have refused to justify your claim.

However this has been a lot of work for not return again, I think I shall have to just start ignoring your relentless challenges that seem to go nowhere, and just derail the debate.

I don't believe in respect or non-respect. But all humans should be accepted as humans and treated as such, even when you kill them.

 

[wandering peacefully]

Is knowledge of God natural knowledge?

There is no such thing as "knowledge" of God. Not a real god anyway outside of imagination. So no, God knowledge would not be classified as "natural" other than the natural workings of the human mind which is natural.

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

There is no such thing as "knowledge" of God. Not a real god anyway outside of imagination. So no, God knowledge would not be classified as "natural" other than the natural workings of the human mind which is natural.

It is a link.

 

[wandering peacefully]

It is a link.

Oh. Please excuse my lack of knowledge about it being a link. Be back, maybe.

 

[Spirit of Light]

There is no such thing as "knowledge" of God. Not a real god anyway outside of imagination. So no, God knowledge would not be classified as "natural" other than the natural workings of the human mind which is natural.

If you don't believe in God, how can you know there isn't something called Gods knowledge or Gods wisdom?
You haven't even proven God does not exist....

 

[wandering peacefully]

It only links to another post

It is a link.

"I would like to discuss natural knowledge and the knowledge of God.
This is my understanding when I say “natural knowledge”. My Tibetan Book of the Dead, I Ching, Bible, and other religious texts have taught me that God’s existence is something that is self proving. We are born with knowledge of His existence; it in intrinsic knowledge. Attachment to suffering, ego, and material life clouds our vision. Knowledge of God is something that can be obscured.
God becomes clear when we detach ourselves from our ego; this is the process of discovering God.
Do theists agree that knowledge of God is natural knowledge? What do atheists think of this concept? Does it seem silly?"

This was the topic of the link. I guess I have to say, I would say the same thing. My brain comment covers the "discovering" God knowledge thesis.

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

It only links to another post

"I would like to discuss natural knowledge and the knowledge of God.
This is my understanding when I say “natural knowledge”. My Tibetan Book of the Dead, I Ching, Bible, and other religious texts have taught me that God’s existence is something that is self proving. We are born with knowledge of His existence; it in intrinsic knowledge. Attachment to suffering, ego, and material life clouds our vision. Knowledge of God is something that can be obscured.
God becomes clear when we detach ourselves from our ego; this is the process of discovering God.
Do theists agree that knowledge of God is natural knowledge? What do atheists think of this concept? Does it seem silly?"

This was the topic of the link. I guess I have to say, I would say the same thing. My brain comment covers the "discovering" God knowledge thesis.

I accept that you have that belief system. I believe differently, since I am a global skeptic.

 

[wandering peacefully]

If you don't believe in God, how can you know there isn't something called Gods knowledge or Gods wisdom?
You haven't even proven God does not exist....

I don't need to prove gods don't exist to know no other human beings have any knowledge of a real God. People can believe they have god knowledge, which is fine, but it is only belief. Obviously.

 

[wandering peacefully]

I accept that you have that belief system. I believe differently, since I am a global skeptic.

Believe what you want to about what I believe. Doesn't make beliefs true. That is why they are beliefs and not knowledge.

 

[Spirit of Light]

I don't need to prove gods don't exist to know no other human beings have any knowledge of a real God. People can believe they have god knowledge, which is fine, but it is only belief. Obviously.

If a believer had solid proof...it would be science not spiritual belief....

 

[wandering peacefully]

If a believer had solid proof...it would be science not spiritual belief....

Exactly. That's why it is a belief and not a scientific fact.

 

[Spirit of Light]

Exactly. That's why it is a belief and not a scientific fact.

I am happy as a believer

 

[wandering peacefully]

I am happy as a believer

Good.

 

[Sheldon]

If a believer had solid proof...it would be science not spiritual belief....

I may have misunderstood, but that seems to imply that the scientific method is a more stringent or rigorous method than spiritual belief?

 

[Spirit of Light]

I may have misunderstood, but that seems to imply that the scientific method is a more stringent or rigorous method than spiritual belief?

Science only answer physical world issues, spiritual belief and practices answer spiritual issues.

 

[rational experiences]

A belief can lead to imbalanced natural human intention.

Science tells me I should believe it is proven correct.

I challenge the meaning of a human being as a being being correct.

As machine science is applied to destroy remove natural.

How is that defined as being correct by a belief.

As science owns a human belief first that a human my equal should be allowed to.

Is what belief I challenge.

As human behaviour is a belief itself. If it's practice causes no imbalanced harm then it owns no condition to challenge.

As yet not many religions or science conditions meet that balanced human belief consensus equal condition.

 

[rational experiences]

When I was life irradiated brain prickled burnt my ova ovah ovary womb was hurt too.

So I wondered why man's science would attack my sexual being.

First reason no woman is man the first theist machine builder thought owned controller scientist. Man with machine.

Natural law natural life two mutual sexual lives first.

Then he writes an evil theme and said gods angel had sex with me. A daughter of man.
Then he writes a human mother immaculately conceived his baby.

Seemingly he forgot human men own human babies. And not any God.

I was truly incensed.

So I spoke to father about modern man's scientific theism. His inability to own any rational machine use. Why fallout states attacked bio life.

Transmitted contacts. Hurt animals too. Was his the god man or angel having animal sex too? Oh he says perverted mind mistakes causes.

By his machine control only.

Father said if our brother built a man sex robot a machine to have sex with first It would have changed his inventive mind feedback.

Machine possessed.

Instead he built a female Robot to have sex with. Proving him mind defective.

As he is still living his perverted mind state he inherited by the machine. Why he believed.

Sexual partner at his side machine maths female term he built.. he created the machine at his side using maths.

Still to this day has not confessed what it really stated. As a modern updated insert....was talking man's science causes only instead of no man is God.

Was not enough information.

 

[Sheldon]

Science only answer physical world issues, spiritual belief and practices answer spiritual issues.

Well science can only study what provides data, and is falsifiable.

 

[Spirit of Light]

Well science can only study what provides data, and is falsifiable.

True, religion are faith and belief

 

[Aupmanyav]

"Why do you say "you have to prove your personal faith and beliefs": I won't say that unless you are trying to proselytize.