Why Does An Archangel From Heaven Have to Debate For Years They Exist?

[Harel13]

Psalms 82:6 says we're all Children of the God Most High; most people have forgotten that means the Source (CPU).

Hey, did David (your past life) know this?

 

[wizanda]

Hey, did David (your past life) know this?

Did David know which bit of that are you asking?

CPU is a new term.

David prophesied many things, which we can show in the Psalms, as the root of some of the later prophetic ideas.

In my opinion.

 

[Eddi]

I'm going to bed now...

I hope that when I wake up I'll be cured...

 

[dybmh]

Revelation 17:8 says the Source already knows the outcome of everyone; it is just us needing to understand why, through the experiences.

This part is going to be a problem for me on multiple levels. I hope you understand if it is something that comes up repeatedly in our future conversations.

 

[Harel13]

Did David know which bit of that are you asking?

CPU is a new term.

David prophesied many things, which we can show in the Psalms, as the root of some of the later prophetic ideas.

In my opinion.

You said that most people have forgotten that "God" means "The Source". Did David know god is The Source?

 

[wizanda]

Did David know god is The Source?

2 Samuel 22:14 & Psalms 18:13 Yahweh thundered from heaven 'and' The Most High uttered his voice. + Psalms 21:7 + Psalms 50:14 + Psalms 78:35 + Psalms 92:1.

In my opinion.

 

[Harel13]

2 Samuel 22:14 & Psalms 18:13 thundered from heaven 'and' The Most High uttered his voice. + Psalms 21:7 + Psalms 50:14 + Psalms 78:35 + Psalms 92:1.

In my opinion.

And this proves what exactly?

 

[wizanda]

And this proves what exactly?

It shows David's understanding of the Divine structure: One Source (El), and Yahavah (Lord of Creation) ruler over matter, and head of the Divine Council (Elohim).

In my opinion.

 

[Howard Is]

@Rival, we're on page 25. Does that qualify this as a mega thread? I haven't been here very long, so, are 25 pages a lot for a thread on RF? Ya know, in the grand scheme of things?

We’re just warming up.
Hang on to your yarmulke.

 

[Howard Is]

So please, do everyone a favor and don't act like you understand what we mortals are going through.

At last, someone divine we can sledge , lol.

 

[wizanda]

I hope you understand if it is something that comes up repeatedly in our future conversations.

Should have kept it to the Tanakh; it is hard to forget about accepting Revelation, when we fulfil it.

Moses prophesied in Deuteronomy 31:24-29 the Later Generations would already go against his teachings; so guess it was already 'decided' before it started, and God already knew no one would listen.

Ultimately they'd be destroyed in the coming Holy Fire (Deuteronomy 29:19-27), as there it says it was known the Later Generations would not listen.

Deuteronomy 30:3-4 says the Lord will gather the Elect, even those from Heaven; so that means everyone is calculated all the way through, where it was all decided before it started.

Isaiah 45:7 says the Lord creates everything; therefore ultimately it knows the beginning from the end (Isaiah 46:10), and has predestined it.

There is a possible escape plan with our people accepting our Messiah, as 'he can free our people'.

In my opinion.

 

[Howard Is]

This part is going to be a problem for me on multiple levels. I hope you understand if it is something that comes up repeatedly in our future conversations.

Have you read Frank Herbert’s Dune series ?

 

[Howard Is]

Moses prophesied in Deuteronomy 31:24-29 the Later Generations would already go against his teachings; so guess it was already 'decided' before it started, and God already knew no one would listen.

I knew you reminded me of someone.

Paul Muad'Dib

 

[Shad]

I knew you reminded me of someone.

Paul Muad'Dib

Paul was better written than what I have read here.

 

[dybmh]

We’re just warming up.
Hang on to your yarmulke.

It got'a fancy one with chin strap. I'm ready for launch

 

[dybmh]

Have you read Frank Herbert’s Dune series ?

Yes, perhaps my all time favorite. I've read Dune, probably 5 times. And I read most of Frank Herbert's sequels to Dune.

 

[Howard Is]

Paul was better written than what I have read here.

Yes, perhaps my all time favorite. I've read Dune, probably 5 times. And I read most of Frank Herbert's sequels to Dune.

Frank wrote some great stuff. I read the whole series. My only major criticism is that the constant description of rooms - their dimensions, the plas furniture etc - got on my nerves.
Apart from that one very minor feature, he did an extraordinary job of exploring a variety of mindsets.

In relation to this thread - the main theme was the paradox of predestination and free will.
Paul Muad'Dib struggled with that in his spice sessions.

Obviously, at least to me, there is no free will if ‘the CPU’ already ,knows all future outcomes.
This is where @wizanda’s logic most clearly fails IMO.

 

[dybmh]

Should have kept it to the Tanakh; it is hard to forget about accepting Revelation, when we fulfil it.

No problem, thanks for understanding.

 

[dybmh]

My only major criticism is that the constant description of rooms

The 'feint within a feint' became formulaic for me; but the entire epic scale of the Dune-Universe is intoxicating... so i just read them like brain candy.

 

[dybmh]

theme was the paradox of predestination and free will.

How far did you get in the sequels? I think I made to the fifth one, but i don't want to talk about it too much in case you haven't read it.