Why does the US Support Israel?

[Terrywoodenpic]

Never go down the road of "look at what happened first", you can't win that against Jews.
Especially not in the middle east.

In 1920 the Haganah was founded after Arabs began coordinated attacks against Jews.
The Irgun (1931) and Lehi (1940) were founded well after even more coordinated attacks against Jews.
It was always a reaction.


We are still below 50 starvation victims, most in the north where Hamas holds out and no aid can be delivered.
Also a couple of those starvation victims were heavily sick people with gene defects and bad medical problems.

Nevertheless over a thousand people have starved in Sudan in the meantime.
Though the humanitarians of the world do not seem to care.



No there aren't.


It's a few, most Jews in the US live completely normal lives and the more religious they are the poorer they are.


Is that why the US had an arms embargo on Israel during the first war?
By the way, same was true for everyone, except the CSSR.

Oh no actual historical facts. This won't fare well.


Meanwhile in reality Syria is on the way out on the Moscow - Teheran axis.
How unfortunate.

Oh right it's only bad when the US is somewhere, Russia can be anywhere it wants.

Jewish Population of the World

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Your other answers are equally suspect.

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

Who started 10-7? Do actions like that have any consequences or should they just be ignored?

October 7 was not an unprovoked, isolated incident. It was one event in a long chain of violence for which Israel is largely responsible.

If your village and family was under attack, what would you do?

I've asked you many times to answer questions like this from a Palestinian perspective and you ignore them every time. Why?

We saw what the U.S. and allies did after Pearl Harbor and 9-11.

Your analogies are off.

Like I said, Oct. 7 was just one event in a long chain of violence. Pointing to it as the start of something would be like pointing to the firebombing of Tokyo as proof that the US were the aggressors in WWII.

Pearl Harbor doesn't work as an analogy for Oct. 7, but it does work as an analogy for the Naqba.

If Hamas surrenders, this all stops. Why is this so difficult for some to understand?

Because it's not true. Decades of history has shown that violence and persecution against Palestine doesn't stop when groups like Hamas stop being active.

 

[icehorse]

Because it's not true. Decades of history has shown that violence and persecution against Palestine doesn't stop when groups like Hamas stop being active.

citations? specifics?

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

citations? specifics?

The Naqba, for starters.

And nothing that's happened in the last few years makes sense without remembering what happened in 2018-2019: in response to peaceful protests, the IDF and Israeli police killed hundreds of Palestinians.

In recent history, that's the incident that has signalled to everyone that peaceful means to address continued infringements on Palestinians' human rights just don't work.

2018–2019 Gaza border protests - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

 

[Kathryn]

The US killed a lot more civilians than Isreael has, during WW2. I will say that much.

 

[icehorse]

Because it's not true. Decades of history has shown that violence and persecution against Palestine doesn't stop when groups like Hamas stop being active.

Let's try this again, when did Muslims stop attacking Israel?

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

Let's try this again, when did Muslims stop attacking Israel?

Because "Muslims" are one big hive mind?

The closest to a lull in recent years is probably 2020, where a total of 1 Israeli civilian was killed despite several attacks on Gaza by the IDF and mob attacks by Israeli settlers throughout the year.

I can't find a year since the forming of Israel that didn't have attacks by both sides.

 

[icehorse]

Because "Muslims" are one big hive mind?

The closest to a lull in recent years is probably 2020, where a total of 1 Israeli civilian was killed despite several attacks on Gaza by the IDF and mob attacks by Israeli settlers throughout the year.

I can't find a year since the forming of Israel that didn't have attacks by both sides.

You tell me how to refer to Israel's enemies.

So earlier when you said:

"Because it's not true. Decades of history has shown that violence and persecution against Palestine doesn't stop when groups like Hamas stop being active."

That wasn't accurate since you just said Israel's enemies basically have never stopped attacking Israel. So wouldn't it be closer to the truth to say "we don't know what would happen if Israel's enemies stopped attacking" ?