Why doesn’t God communicate directly to everyone?

[columbus]

Nevertheless it is a belief that I know is true. I do not need objective proof in order to know it is true. I just know.

What do you mean by "know" here?

What I mean by the word, in similar contexts, is "a belief held due to strong verifiable evidence". It would never include "a belief held due to a charismatic figure making unsupported assertions".
Religious people often seem to confuse evidence based beliefs for confidently held beliefs, when they use the word "know" .
Tom

 

[Trailblazer]

It is true that because God does not communicate with everyone does not mean God does not exist. However, there is such a mess at the moment for what concerns "what God wants" that if I were God I would make it clear what I want. I mean, this is basic stuff. Some believe that people should be divided in castes while others believe that this is nonsense, while both appealing to their God's brand. And that is just an example.

Good point. God has done exactly that. God has told everyone what He wants for humanity in this New Age through the Revelation of Baha'u'llah. Unfortunately, most people did not listen because they are so attached to their older religions, or if they are nonbelievers they do not like the idea of Messengers that speak for God.

Clearly, we are living in a New Age of mankind which God ushered in through the Bab and Baha'u'llah in the 19th century, but those of the older religions are not willing to let go of the past and accept the fact that a new Messenger of God has appeared.

Incidentally, some Christians friends of mine claim that God does indeed communicate directly with them. They call it a personal relationship, or something.

Do you think it is plausible or are they just deluded?

I think they are deluded. They were misled by the Church who told them that the Holy Spirit lives inside of them and talks to them.

The Holy Spirit does not live inside anyone’s body, not in the body of Jesus and or in the body of anyone else. Entrance and exit, descent and ascent, are characteristics of bodies and not of spirits. Intellectual subtleties and mental realities such as the Holy Spirit do not enter, nor come forth, nor descend into the body, but rather they have direct connection to the body through the soul, which is associated with the mind while we are alive in the physical body.

 

[Evangelicalhumanist]

I am left wondering if you understood that what I quoted was the excuse I was criticizing in the first place.
But sure, I have considered that. I call it the power of bias.

Are we to understand you think that all other religions are subject to that "bias," while Christians are not?

Historical revisionism is a thing though.
Not to mention that in the context of this conversation, Messengers are, somehow, not really humans. So that, oddly, doesn't count.

Well, oddly, I have never been persuaded that "non human messengers" actually exist, nor have I ever been presented with the tiniest shred of evidence for such a thing, so in my view, they don't count, either.

 

[Koldo]

Are we to understand you think that all other religions are subject to that "bias," while Christians are not?

Erm... No.
I mean everyone is subjected to that. Christians included.

Well, oddly, I have never been persuaded that "non human messengers" actually exist, nor have I ever been presented with the tiniest shred of evidence for such a thing, so in my view, they don't count, either.

Neither have I, but hey, had I decided not to entertain weird thoughts there wouldn't be a lot to talk about in this forum.

 

[Trailblazer]

It's not just the Prophet. Staunch religionists also believe that they are more smart, moral, educated, whatever than the rest of us. That's why God likes them enough to provide the evidence that they rely on.
That's also pretty self important.
Tom

The same evidence is available to everyone... Believers are not smarter, more moral, or more educated than nonbelievers. We are simply more open-minded so we are willing to look at the evidence God provides.

“If a man were to declare, ‘There is a lamp in the next room which gives no light’, one hearer might be satisfied with his report, but a wiser man goes into the room to judge for himself, and behold, when he finds the light shining brilliantly in the lamp, he knows the truth!” Paris Talks, p. 103

 

[Trailblazer]

Don't let debate sadden you Trail , it is fine to believe something created the Universe, for sure.

Debating does not sadden me, but arguing saddens me because it causes bad feelings between people.

 

[Evangelicalhumanist]

God is fully capable of speaking, but God cannot speak like a human because God is not a human, so God has to speak through His Messengers.

Please explain this more to me, if you don't mind. If, as you assert, God cannot speak like a human (to me, or to you, for example) but instead requires some sort of intermediary "Messengers," what exactly are these "Messengers?" I must presume that they are not human like you or I, or the same communication barrier would exist. So speak to me about these so-called "Messengers," Paul, Mohammed, Baha'u'llah,' Jesus, the Bab, Abraham, Isaiah and the rest of the prophets, Joseph Smith and the literally thousands of other so-called "Messengers." Were they not human? If not, what were they, and if they were, why could God communicate with them and not with me (or you)?

 

[james blunt]

Debating does not sadden me, but arguing saddens me because it causes bad feelings between people.

There is not much difference between argument and debate. I consider argument is when profanities start to get involved. Anything else is just healthy debate that if you feel strongly about, have to find a counter argument.
Something created the universe for sure, we all think that so if somebody wants to call this something God there is no harm in that . Objectively though I think we need to stop trying describe God because we are just being subjective and lying to ourselves.
If you notice my religious status it just says God, nothing else needed to go with that .

 

[Trailblazer]

What do you mean by "know" here?

What I mean by the word, in similar contexts, is "a belief held due to strong verifiable evidence". It would never include "a belief held due to a charismatic figure making unsupported assertions".
Religious people often seem to confuse evidence based beliefs for confidently held beliefs, when they use the word "know" .
Tom

My belief is held due to strong evidence that Baha'u'llah was who He claimed to be, a Messenger of God.
That is how I know He was a Messenger of God.

I would never hold a belief due to a charismatic figure making unsupported assertions. Baha'u'llah's assertions are supported by evidence.

 

[viole]

Good point. God has done exactly that. God has told everyone what He wants for humanity in this New Age through the Revelation of Baha'u'llah. Unfortunately, most people did not listen because they are so attached to their older religions, or if they are nonbelievers they do not like the idea of Messengers that speak for God.

The life of gods must be really extenuating. I mean, there is always something. Either people are attached to their older religion or they do no believe middle men. I am sorry for those gods...I am sure they did not choose their job. I myself would not know how to do to make my message clear, even if I were almighty.

LOL.

Clearly, we are living in a New Age of mankind which God ushered in through the Bab and Baha'u'llah in the 19th century, but those of the older religions are not willing to let go of the past and accept the fact that a new Messenger of God has appeared.

Of course. I can feel it. What God ushered through the Babble and Baha'u'llah in the 19th century is so obvious. I can only imagine God's frustration to see His message, whose source is so obvious, to be so neglected. I have the impression that God has some problems to get His message heard. I think there are some leadership courses on the Internet He can attend to improve the situation.

I think they are deluded. They were misled by the Church who told them that the Holy Spirit lives inside of them and talks to them.

And I am sure that does not apply for Baha'u'llah, whatever that means.

The Holy Spirit does not live inside anyone’s body, not in the body of Jesus and or in the body of anyone else. Entrance and exit, descent and ascent, are characteristics of bodies and not of spirits. Intellectual subtleties and mental realities such as the Holy Spirit do not enter, nor come forth, nor descend into the body, but rather they have direct connection to the body through the soul, which is associated with the mind while we are alive in the physical body.

And you believe that. Right?

Ciao

- viole

 

[Trailblazer]

It is not about doing anything wrong, it is about providing justification.

I do not have to justify my belief to anyone except myself.
I do not have to provide justification to others for what I believe.
Everyone is responsible to come up with their own justification for what they believe or disbelieve.

 

[Trailblazer]

There is not much difference between argument and debate. I consider argument is when profanities start to get involved. Anything else is just healthy debate that if you feel strongly about, have to find a counter argument.

I consider it a debate when it is an exchange of ideas and people disagree. I consider it an argument whenever one party keeps insisting they are right and the other one is wrong. When someone insists they are right, that just elicits the other party to repeat why they think differently, and it just keeps going round and round.

If something has been said, it has been said. There is no point saying it over and over again, unless someone feels a need to be right. People should just agree to disagree unless they have something new to bring to the table.

Something created the universe for sure, we all think that so if somebody wants to call this something God there is no harm in that . Objectively though I think we need to stop trying describe God because we are just being subjective and lying to ourselves.
If you notice my religious status it just says God, nothing else needed to go with that .

I fully agree with all of that. We cannot know if God created the universe and we cannot describe God.

 

[Trailblazer]

Please explain this more to me, if you don't mind. If, as you assert, God cannot speak like a human (to me, or to you, for example) but instead requires some sort of intermediary "Messengers," what exactly are these "Messengers?" I must presume that they are not human like you or I, or the same communication barrier would exist.

What I refer to as Messengers of God are also called Manifestations of God.

A Manifestation of God is human, but more than a human. He has a human nature is so He can communicate to humans and act as a mediator, but He also has a universal divine mind, which is beyond the reach of our understanding. We can understand His human side, but not His divine side.

Only the Holy Manifestations of God have a universal divine mind, heavenly intellectual power, which is beyond nature, embraces things and is cognizant of things, knows them, understands them, is aware of mysteries, realities and divine significations. A portion and share of this power comes to the righteous man through the Holy Manifestations.

“But the universal divine mind, which is beyond nature, is the bounty of the Preexistent Power. This universal mind is divine; it embraces existing realities, and it receives the light of the mysteries of God. It is a conscious power, not a power of investigation and of research. The intellectual power of the world of nature is a power of investigation, and by its researches it discovers the realities of beings and the properties of existences; but the heavenly intellectual power, which is beyond nature, embraces things and is cognizant of things, knows them, understands them, is aware of mysteries, realities and divine significations, and is the discoverer of the concealed verities of the Kingdom. This divine intellectual power is the special attribute of the Holy Manifestations and the Dawning-places of prophethood; a ray of this light falls upon the mirrors of the hearts of the righteous, and a portion and a share of this power comes to them through the Holy Manifestations.

The Holy Manifestations have three conditions: one, the physical condition; one, that of the rational soul; and one, that of the manifestation of perfection and of the lordly splendor. The body comprehends things according to the degree of its ability in the physical world; therefore, in certain cases it shows physical weakness. For example: “I was sleeping and unconscious; the breeze of God passed over Me and awoke Me, and commanded Me to proclaim the Word”; or when Christ in His thirtieth year was baptized, and the Holy Spirit descended upon Him; before this the Holy Spirit did not manifest itself in Him. All these things refer to the bodily condition of the Manifestations; but Their heavenly condition embraces all things, knows all mysteries, discovers all signs, and rules over all things; before as well as after Their mission, it is the same. That is why Christ has said: “I am Alpha and Omega, the first and the last” 1 —that is to say, there has never been and never shall be any change and alteration in Me.”
Some Answered Questions, pp. 218-219

Manifestations of God are another order of God’s creation, a Being in between a human and a God. They are not like us so we cannot fully comprehend their nature.

“In His Tablet to Muḥammad Sháh the Báb, moreover, has revealed: “I am the Primal Point from which have been generated all created things. I am the Countenance of God Whose splendor can never be obscured, the Light of God Whose radiance can never fade…. All the keys of heaven God hath chosen to place on My right hand, and all the keys of hell on My left…. I am one of the sustaining pillars of the Primal Word of God. Whosoever hath recognized Me, hath known all that is true and right, and hath attained all that is good and seemly…. The substance wherewith God hath created Me is not the clay out of which others have been formed. He hath conferred upon Me that which the worldly-wise can never comprehend, nor the faithful discover….”
The Promised Day is Come, p. 43

Jesus was a Manifestation of God and that is why nobody could understand what his nature was – was he just a man or was He God? Nobody had the answer to that question 2000 years ago so the Church decided that Jesus was God incarnate. However, now that we have the Revelation of Baha’u’llah, we know that He was a Manifestation of God, not God incarnate.

Manifestations of God have a universal divine mind. They have innate knowledge, and that explains why they know things nobody else knows, without having any formal education.

Unlike ordinary humans, whose souls come into being at the moment of conception, the souls of the Manifestations of God were pre-existent in the spiritual world; there they were given the “capacity” to receive God’s revelation on earth and to communicate it to humanity in a way in which we can comprehend it.

So speak to me about these so-called "Messengers," Paul, Mohammed, Baha'u'llah,' Jesus, the Bab, Abraham, Isaiah and the rest of the prophets, Joseph Smith and the literally thousands of other so-called "Messengers." Were they not human? If not, what were they, and if they were, why could God communicate with them and not with me (or you)?

It is important to note that there are two kinds of Prophets. The independent Prophets are what I refer to as Messengers or Manifestations of God. Only they have a universal divine mind. The other prophets in the Old Testament were their followers and promoters and they were ordinary men. Paul and Joseph Smith were also ordinary men, not prophets of either kind.

Question.—How many kinds of Prophets are there?

Answer.—Universally, the Prophets are of two kinds. One are the independent Prophets Who are followed; the other kind are not independent and are themselves followers.

The independent Prophets are the lawgivers and the founders of a new cycle. Through Their appearance the world puts on a new garment, the foundations of religion are established, and a new book is revealed. Without an intermediary They receive bounty from the Reality of the Divinity, and Their illumination is an essential illumination. They are like the sun which is luminous in itself: the light is its essential necessity; it does not receive light from any other star. These Dawning-places of the morn of Unity are the sources of bounty and the mirrors of the Essence of Reality.

The other Prophets are followers and promoters, for they are branches and not independent; they receive the bounty of the independent Prophets, and they profit by the light of the Guidance of the universal Prophets. They are like the moon, which is not luminous and radiant in itself, but receives its light from the sun.

The Manifestations of universal Prophethood Who appeared independently are, for example, Abraham, Moses, Christ, Muhammad, the Báb and Bahá’u’lláh. But the others who are followers and promoters are like Solomon, David, Isaiah, Jeremiah and Ezekiel. For the independent Prophets are founders; They establish a new religion and make new creatures of men; They change the general morals, promote new customs and rules, renew the cycle and the Law. Their appearance is like the season of spring, which arrays all earthly beings in a new garment, and gives them a new life.

With regard to the second sort of Prophets who are followers, these also promote the Law of God, make known the Religion of God, and proclaim His word. Of themselves they have no power and might, except what they receive from the independent Prophets.” Some Answered Questions, pp. 164-165
Excerpt from: 43: THE TWO CLASSES OF PROPHETS

 

[Trailblazer]

The life of gods must be really extenuating. I mean, there is always something. Either people are attached to their older religion or they do no believe middle men. I am sorry for those gods...I am sure they did not choose their job. I myself would not know how to do to make my message clear, even if I were almighty.

God makes His Message as clear as it can be and then it is out of His jurisdiction. It is then up to humans to accept it or reject it.

There is only One God and His Life is not hard for the reasons you gave since it does not affect Him if people are attached to their older religions or if nonbelievers don’t believe in His Messengers.

God is fully self-sufficient, one and alone, self-subsisting, above the need for any of His creatures, or their belief. The only reason God wants us to believe in Him is for our own sakes, not His. He can afford to dispense with all of His creatures and would do so if He did not Love them, since He created us out of Love. There is a passage that says that God was alone with nobody to know Him so that is why He created man.

Of course. I can feel it. What God ushered through the Babble and Baha'u'llah in the 19th century is so obvious. I can only imagine God's frustration to see His message, whose source is so obvious, to be so neglected. I have the impression that God has some problems to get His message heard. I think there are some leadership courses on the Internet He can attend to improve the situation.

Like I said above, God does not need us to get the message for His benefit. He wants us to get the message in order for humanity to survive and progress.

And I am sure that does not apply for Baha'u'llah, whatever that means.

No, Manifestations of God are not deluded. Only humans can be deluded and sometimes they are, sometimes not.

And you believe that. Right?

Of course I do. Because I have the full context I understand what it means thus it makes perfect sense to me.

 

[Deeje]

Isn't it quite exhausting to believe humans are always in some sort of fault when they turn from god while believers are always benefited?

The answer to that lies in the question of God's original purpose for creating a material universe, and beginning to create material creatures to inhabit a single planet the he prepared especially for them.

What did God have in mind when he did that, do you think?

I mean, god puts other people at fault as to give them an ultimatum to follow him. That sounds very exhausting to feel one must follow god or be blamed for not following him. That's not love.

Again, taking into account why God gave us free will as part of our make-up, there was always the danger that we would abuse it. You see, I believe that we are still living in the 7th day that God set aside for all eventualities to surface and to be dealt with, so that at the end of this designated time period, God will conclude this day like all the others.....all will be "very good" because there will be nothing and no one to get in the way of God's original plans for the earth and the human race....with free will intact. He can the get on with whatever he has planned for the rest of the universe, which he obviously did not create for nothing.

Everything God does has a purpose....there is always a reason for his responses and actions and they are always in support of carrying out his original purpose.

Also, how does the bible define love that does not give believers an ultimatum to believe him? (Isn't it exhausting to believe because you have to not because you want to?)

Once you "know" Jehovah and his son on more than a superficial level, you understand where you fit into the grand scheme of things. (John 17:3) Only then can you understand what real love is.

It is the same kind of love that allows a parent to consent to a precious child undergoing a series of painful surgereis to correct a physical defect.....they know at the outset that the recovery time will be painful, but all the pain is worth the outcome. The end result justifies the pain.

We had the example here in Australia of a young African boy named Safari, who was horribly burned. He underwent 18 painful surgeries to correct his dreadful disfigurement. His recovery opened up wonderful opportunities for him. Ask him today if the pain was worth it....?

Safari Kimanzi's journey takes bright turn

God has structured his purpose so that his human children will see firsthand, the results of trying to make their own decisions without including him. Like the law of gravity, we will feel it painfully and immediately if we try to work against it.

Why do you think that Israel's history is recorded...warts and all? It is there to show us what happens when we obey God....and conversely, what happens when we don't. Object lessons are the most powerful.

God's purpose being successful depends on humans who will obey the directives of the Father. He knows what is best for his children, but in giving them free will, had to impose some reasonable restrictions. Those who want to exercise their free will outside of those boundaries, which are put in place to benefit everyone, have no place in the grand scheme of things. God's love is not unconditional.....it never was.

We prove by the way we live the life he has given us, that we are the kind of citizens that God wants in his kingdom....or not. It is our own choices that either qualify, or disqualify us from God's future plans.

All he has ever wanted from his human children is what all parents want from their children....uncomplaining obedience. Is it too much to ask?

 

[Bird123]

On another forum I said: “One reason God does not communicate to everyone is because everyone does not deserve to know that God exists.” I said that people have to be willing to sincerely search for God using their own innate powers of reasoning in order to be worthy of knowing God exists, rather than just sitting back and doing nothing, waiting for God to communicate to them.

Then this one atheist said that was a lame-*** excuse and he says it is just common sense that God should communicate directly to everyone.

This is what he has been saying to me for over three years. Everyone (all of the 7.4 billion people in the world) should get direct communication from God. God should not use Messengers because not everyone believes in them, especially in the beginning, when they first show up on earth.

What do you think; does everyone on earth deserve direct communication from God or should people be required to search for God themselves?

Life isn't about Believing. Life isn't about God at all. Life is the education of God's children. It's all about US.

Let's look at this world. One must work to acquire knowledge and wisdom. So much is learned on the journey to Discover. Being told will never teach like Living our lessons.

We are learning our lessons through our free choices and the consequences that return. God does not speak to everyone simply because God does not want to intimidate our choices in any way.

There is another reason God does not speak to everyone. Most do not have a concept of God's intelligence. God is working on multiple levels with multiple views. In reality, a true conversation with God would leave most people confused. It might take a week to figure out everything that was said in just a few moments. Further, how much was missed by our limited intellect in the conversation? Mankind carries such a narrow view!

As I see it, after death we will all see God. This is nothing for anyone to worry about. God is Unconditional Love. Further, everyone already knows God.

A person once asked me: What is God's name? Language is such a funny limiting thing. My answer was: There are no names. Everyone already knows who everyone is. Yes, there are ways far beyond the physical world with mankind.

In conclusion, It's all about US, God's children. As I see it. It doesn't matter about Believing. Everyone is as valuable as any other one. I would say: Be who you must! It's a part of the plan. Your choices return to teach you what your choices mean so try to make good ones

 

[Unveiled Artist]

The answer to that lies in the question of God's original purpose for creating a material universe, and beginning to create material creatures to inhabit a single planet the he prepared especially for them.

What did God have in mind when he did that, do you think?



Again, taking into account why God gave us free will as part of our make-up, there was always the danger that we would abuse it. You see, I believe that we are still living in the 7th day that God set aside for all eventualities to surface and to be dealt with, so that at the end of this designated time period, God will conclude this day like all the others.....all will be "very good" because there will be nothing and no one to get in the way of God's original plans for the earth and the human race....with free will intact. He can the get on with whatever he has planned for the rest of the universe, which he obviously did not create for nothing.

Everything God does has a purpose....there is always a reason for his responses and actions and they are always in support of carrying out his original purpose.



Once you "know" Jehovah and his son on more than a superficial level, you understand where you fit into the grand scheme of things. (John 17:3) Only then can you understand what real love is.

It is the same kind of love that allows a parent to consent to a precious child undergoing a series of painful surgereis to correct a physical defect.....they know at the outset that the recovery time will be painful, but all the pain is worth the outcome. The end result justifies the pain.

We had the example here in Australia of a young African boy named Safari, who was horribly burned. He underwent 18 painful surgeries to correct his dreadful disfigurement. His recovery opened up wonderful opportunities for him. Ask him today if the pain was worth it....?

Safari Kimanzi's journey takes bright turn

God has structured his purpose so that his human children will see firsthand, the results of trying to make their own decisions without including him. Like the law of gravity, we will feel it painfully and immediately if we try to work against it.

Why do you think that Israel's history is recorded...warts and all? It is there to show us what happens when we obey God....and conversely, what happens when we don't. Object lessons are the most powerful.

God's purpose being successful depends on humans who will obey the directives of the Father. He knows what is best for his children, but in giving them free will, had to impose some reasonable restrictions. Those who want to exercise their free will outside of those boundaries, which are put in place to benefit everyone, have no place in the grand scheme of things. God's love is not unconditional.....it never was.

We prove by the way we live the life he has given us, that we are the kind of citizens that God wants in his kingdom....or not. It is our own choices that either qualify, or disqualify us from God's future plans.

All he has ever wanted from his human children is what all parents want from their children....uncomplaining obedience. Is it too much to ask?

Isnt it exhausting to think of people that way, regardless how you phrase it and what scripture is available. You, personally?

I know it would exhaust me to think of people as faulty or loss for whatever means. Im very empathetic, though. I cant be around negativity in any aspect of the word.

But Im asking you, personally. Since gods love is conditional, a lot of people will die because they didnt take the benefit of believing in god. Its an ultimatum.

Regardless,

Isnt that exhausting to think that people will be punished for their choice in not believing in a god of love?

That, and my other post, what life after death are you referring to? All christian denominations I know and scripture has some idea of life after death.

Edited: Im only asking about how you feel physically and mentally about another persons well being in relation to your faith. Regardless if its from god, what he says, and so forth, Im more interested in the positivity in these types of beliefs of another persons spiritual wellbeing.

 

[Koldo]

I do not have to justify my belief to anyone except myself.
I do not have to provide justification to others for what I believe.
Everyone is responsible to come up with their own justification for what they believe or disbelieve.

You don't have to, but you still do it nonetheless.

 

[Deeje]

Isnt it exhausting to think of people that way, regardless how you phrase it and what scripture is available. You, personally?

I know it would exhaust me to think of people as faulty or loss for whatever means. Im very empathetic, though. I cant be around negativity in any aspect of the word.

But Im asking you, personally. Since gods love is conditional, a lot of people will die because they didnt take the benefit of believing in god. Its an ultimatum.

Regardless,

Isnt that exhausting to think that people will be punished for their choice in not believing in a god of love?

That, and my other post, what life after death are you referring to? All christian denominations I know and scripture has some idea of life after death.

Edited: Im only asking about how you feel physically and mentally about another persons well being in relation to your faith. Regardless if its from god, what he says, and so forth, Im more interested in the positivity in these types of beliefs of another persons spiritual wellbeing.

The one thing God isn't, is 'sentimental'. Emotion has nothing to do with the implementation of his justice.
To allow personal sentimentality to outweigh Jehovah's perfect justice is not even a question for me.

I show my love to people by going out and telling them about God's wonderful plans for the future....I have no control over whether they listen or not. I feel bad for them, but it is God doing the judging, not me. Their choices are theirs to make, but this earth is his to do with as he pleases...not as we please.

Why is it exhausting to contemplate the outcome of people's own decisions? Everyone will reap what they have sown. All this system has done, is sort people out. They themselves have either chosen God as their Sovereign Ruler...or the pretender to whom God gave world rulership. (2 Corinthians 4:3-4)

We either love this world and all that it stands for....or we hate everything about it. We either want to preserve it...or see it demolished. I know which one I support.

1 John 2:15-17...."Do not love either the world or the things in the world. If anyone loves the world, the love of the Father is not in him; 16 because everything in the world—the desire of the flesh and the desire of the eyes and the showy display of one’s means of life—does not originate with the Father, but originates with the world. 17 Furthermore, the world is passing away and so is its desire, but the one who does the will of God remains forever."

There it is.....its a clear cut divide. We can choose God's side or the losing side. And we know who is the winner in advance, so how dumb are we if we choose the loser?

 

[Trailblazer]

You don't have to, but you still do it nonetheless.

Where did you see me do that?
I just explain the reasons why I believe.
My belief is justified to me because it is right and reasonable to me...
MY justification is not a justification for anyone else except me.