Why exactly is Satan bad?

[dybmh]

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And those 10 were at gods command.

Propaganda. As was clearly pointed out to you last time, this number includes God "killing" rapists, murders, and kidnappers. But the anti-religious propagandist ignores those details.

 

[Shaul]

It implies that humanity's moral standards and God's moral standards are the same.

But I get it: you don't want to deal with this. Keep calling it a non sequitur if you like.

That scripture doesn't imply that. If you think it does that explains some of your wacko posts.

 

[Eddi]

Propaganda. As was clearly pointed out to you last time, this number includes God "killing" rapists, murders, and kidnappers. But the anti-religious propagandist ignores those details.

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How many people would you shave off the 2,476,633 figure to give a more accurate number?

How many people do you think God has killed, according to the bible?

I'm not being antagonistic, I'm just curious

 

[Shaul]

So the fact that God is responsible for my existence means I'm his property?

I don't think so

That doesn't follow

Not just that He created you but also that He sustains you and is both omnipotent and omniscient. But scripture says you are not just mere property but one of His children. And that He loves you.

 

[Eddi]

Not just that He created you but also that He sustains you and is both omnipotent and omniscient. But scripture says you are not just mere property but one of His children. And that He loves you.

If he really loved his children then he wouldn't consider them his property

That's just weird, that's messed up

Imagine if a human parent did that.......

 

[Shaul]

If he really loved his children then he wouldn't consider them his property

That's just weird, that's messed up

Imagine if a human parent did that.......

It is as if you didn't even read my post. I wrote that he doesn't look upon you as property. He looks upon you as His child.

 

[Eddi]

It is as if you didn't even read my post. I wrote that he doesn't look upon you as property. He looks upon you as His child.

I read it very carefully

You said:

But scripture says you are not just mere property but one of His children

Which would imply that he does think of his humans as some kind of property even if he does consider them children

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

That scripture doesn't imply that.

Please tell me about the alternative interpretation you use to make "like God, knowing good and evil" mean "not like God."

If you think it does that explains some of your wacko posts.

Friendly.

 

[Shaul]

I read it very carefully

You said:

Which would imply that he does think of his humans as some kind of property even if he does consider them children

Not really. But I will be quite precise. He thinks of you as His child.

 

[Shaul]

Please tell me about the alternative interpretation you use to make "like God, knowing good and evil" mean "not like God."

Ok. "Like" doesn't mean "the same", which is what you wrote. That's how.

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

Ok. "Like" doesn't mean "the same", which is what you wrote. That's how.

Right: only our "knowing good and evil" was "like God." The passage doesn't speak to any other attributes.

 

[Shaul]

Right: only our "knowing good and evil" was "like God." The passage doesn't speak to any other attributes.

What it actually says is,
"וַיֹּאמֶר יְהוָה אֱלֹהִים, הֵן הָאָדָם הָיָה כְּאַחַד מִמֶּנּוּ, לָדַעַת, טוֹב וָרָע"
Which is clear that man would not become like HaShem but like one of the "us" about whom He was speaking. That is He and the angels. Angels aren't perfect nor have perfect standards. And neither do humans.

 

[InChrist]

Which was the last movie you went to go see where there were no bad guys?

Well, you’re correct there are always villains in movies and stories. But I wouldn’t mind a story … or life without bad guys.

 

[TagliatelliMonster]

God gave the authority of the earth to mankind. When Adam decided to follow the Serpent and his voice, he handed over the authority of the world to Satan. Thus, when Satan tempted Jesus with the glory of the world, it was his to tempt Jesus. In essence saying, “if you will worship me, you won’t have to go to the cross to gain the authority, I will give it to you”.

As far as the robbing the word - Mark 4 - Satan comes immediately to rob the word - which is the weapon that can defeat Satan. (Jesus always said, “it is written”.



This has been addressed ad nauseam. It is a common response from those who aren’t going to be moved from their viewpoint.


No… Job gave him permission



Divorces.



This has been addressed ad nauseam. It is a common response from those who aren’t going to be moved from their viewpoint.

Not as I read and study it.

Gen 3. When Satan tempted Eve, he actually added to what God said.

What is vague about “temptations?”

Reading this, it's quite hilarious and ironic to read you say "It is a common response from those who aren’t going to be moved from their viewpoint."

I see no point in continuing this conversation.

 

[Colt]

Don't let your fellow conservatives hear you say that.

True, but since its a solution that is unlikely until far into the future, perhaps post WWIII I don't talk about it. The United Nations is a start.

 

[TagliatelliMonster]

So you, a mere mortal, presume to pass judgement on Him?

I'm a moral agent capable of moral reasoning.
I can look at actions and make a moral judgement.

I see no reason why your god should be exempt from that merely for being god.

 

[TagliatelliMonster]

It's from "Sorrow" by Bad Religion.

It's about the story of Job. The prideful father and his son are God and Satan.

Greg Graffin's lyricks are among the best in the genre!
Such an intelligent man.

Love him.

 

[TagliatelliMonster]

Propaganda. As was clearly pointed out to you last time, this number includes God "killing" rapists, murders, and kidnappers. But the anti-religious propagandist ignores those details.

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If I go out and kill a bunch of rapists, murderers and kidnappers...

Do you think i'll be given a medal or jail time?


Also, are you saying that the many toddlers, children and women that he killed / were killed by his commandments (according to the myths, off course) were "rapists, murderers and kidnappers"?

 

[Nakosis]

For me, it would have been the Poseidon Adventure.

(My wife and I had a retro movie night)

What about the main antagonist, who insisted the ship sail without ballast so it could move faster to save money?
This "evil" greedy person is the cause for the entire mishap.

 

[Nakosis]

Also, we know that Native Americans weren't actually one dimensional villains in real life, and in fact weren't villains at all.

Nobody is a one dimensional villain in real life.
But, the Bible isn't about real life is it?