outhouse
Atheistically
for the people smart enough to believe in evolution like the pope say they should LOL
Its about plain old evolution the way nature did it.
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Why has man never evolved?
- Thread starter MiniBoglins
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for the people smart enough to believe in evolution like the pope say they should LOL
Its about plain old evolution the way nature did it.
jarofthoughts
Empirical Curmudgeon
No, Galileo was sent by God to a be nuisance for the Catholic Church. Just like Martin Luther.
But do you agree that Galileo could, based on visual information (i.e. "seeing") could determine that the Earth goes around the Sun and not the other way around?
Midnight Pete
Well-Known Member
Probably not without his telescope.
jarofthoughts
Empirical Curmudgeon
Irrelevant. Do you agree that he could see it or not?
Midnight Pete
Well-Known Member
There's a big difference between looking at the stars with the naked eye and looking at them with a telescope. The telescope was means by which Galileo made his discoveries. But why I am telling you something you already know?
jarofthoughts
Empirical Curmudgeon
There's a big difference between looking at the stars with the naked eye and looking at them with a telescope. The telescope was means by which Galileo made his discoveries. But why I am telling you something you already know?
Because you claimed that: "I can't actually see the earth rotating around the sun. From my perspective as a little bug crawling on the face of the earth, nothing would indicate how the heavenly bodies actually move relative to the earth and each other."
I am trying to show you that you were wrong and that you can, in fact, see that the Earth is rotating around the Sun and you can, through those observations calculate very accurately how the planets move about our star.
Of course we use technology of various kinds to help us, including when it comes to issues of science, but the fact that you've used technology, in this case a telescope, rather than merely your own eyes, detracts from the evidence not at all.
The point I am trying to make is somewhat more extensive than that and it comes down to what we consider to be evidence and how we know what we know, and why certain things are considered knowledge and other things are not.
For instance, how can we, with a reasonable amount of certainty know what the atmosphere of a planet that resides light-years away consists of?
How can we know that whales descended from animals that once lived on land?
How can we know that the earth is billions of years old, and not thousands, like some YECs believe?
I'm not saying that you are ignorant about these subjects, but I think it is important to understand how we know the things we know.
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Midnight Pete
Well-Known Member
Then how do you explain the geocentrism of the medieval era?
jarofthoughts
Empirical Curmudgeon
Lack of scientific and mathematical understanding.
During what we consider the dark ages a lot of the knowledge that we had previously obtained was lost and forgotten and we became more interested in bashing each other over the head than figure out how the world around us actually works. Then the Renaissance happened and we started focusing on science and philosophy again, a period that saw major breakthroughs in our understanding of the universe.
PS: Please reread my previous post as well. I edited it while you were replying (Sorry about that. Didn't expect you to be quite that fast...) and I added some explanatory notes.
outhouse
Atheistically
more like lack of reason by a belief in a myth that dictated fictional history for over 2000 years.
look lets wrap this up, even the vatican and pope evolve the christian religion and said science of evolution has merit.
why cant the christians drop the BS and deal with the fact the bible is not ment to be taken literaly. there pope told them to get with the program whats the hold up????
how many more ignorant stupid children must the schools proccess with faulty information, the bible is not a history or science class.
its time the bS stops
Midnight Pete
Well-Known Member
Be careful how you represent yourself on RF.
outhouse
Atheistically
is that another physical threat???
be careful we need to be careful of how christians have screwed over the education system long enough
we have to be afraid that christians will murder our abortion doctors
and we have to be afraid christians priest will molest our children
Dont get me wrong im against all organized religion, millions upon million of lives have been lost, dont you think the madness should stop?
please dont answer I dont have the time to teach you! about religion in politics
jarofthoughts
Empirical Curmudgeon
painted wolf
Grey Muzzle
Autodidact
Intentionally Blank
Yes, it has. All the time.
outhouse
Atheistically
they never quit coming
they all think creationism is some kind of funny joke
they dont understand the impact it has on young children
the christian religion is guilty of crimes against humanity for this
moron at work who beleives in creation told me yesterday that cavemen were just the direct result of what happens to people that live outside
the moronic madness has to stop.
we evolved get over it, If you dont want to evolve thats fine, but shut the f up because your idiotic view is damaging my childrens future
they all think creationism is some kind of funny joke
they dont understand the impact it has on young children
the christian religion is guilty of crimes against humanity for this
moron at work who beleives in creation told me yesterday that cavemen were just the direct result of what happens to people that live outside
the moronic madness has to stop.we evolved get over it, If you dont want to evolve thats fine, but shut the f up because your idiotic view is damaging my childrens future
Father Heathen
Veteran Member
That's due to willful ignorance and intellectual dishonesty. You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink.
Autodidact
Intentionally Blank
I'm trying to think of some tactful way of explaining this to you, tru. I hope you're extremely young and ignorant, because I'm afraid you've just posted a message that is utter drivel. It's so ignorant of basic science that it is literally unintelligible. Let me ask you something. Do you have any interest in learning anything about evolution? Or do you prefer to continue to post meaningless nonsense?
outhouse
Atheistically
LOL i was just thinking that but along the lines if it dont drink you back it away from the water and put it out of its misery