Why horses were used for riding just few thousands of years ago ?

[Shad]

We have to generate electricity in order to use it, can we have it without the invention of batteries,generators and fuel cells.

Yes, go outside and wait to be struck by lightning (seriously don't) Look up earlier experiments with batteries which required no generators but basic chemicals and elements which contain a charge by nature. It was functional but very limited.

You again are confusing electricity we generate with electricity itself. Generators are just a more efficient method than the weaker or sporadic electricity found in nature. The same principles apply in both. There is electricity in our bodies without which we would not be alive. It is fundamental part of life.

 

[FearGod]

Electricity was invented? You're kidding, I hope. What we invented were ways to harness a natural phenomena.

Yes such as flying, planes and the birds,natural phenomena.
What makes the photon traveling in such speed for billions of years ?

 

[McBell]

Yes such as flying, planes and the birds,natural phenomena.
What makes the photon traveling in such speed for billions of years ?

Why are you fishing for the "goddidit" answer?
Or are you waiting for the most honest answer of "i don't know" so you can stuff your god in that gap?

 

[FearGod]

Yes, go outside and wait to be struck by lightning (seriously don't) Look up earlier experiments with batteries which required no generators but basic chemicals and elements which contain a charge by nature. It was functional but very limited.

You again are confusing electricity we generate with electricity itself. Generators are just a more efficient method than the weaker or sporadic electricity found in nature. The same principles apply in both. There is electricity in our bodies without which we would not be alive. It is fundamental part of life.

What is the value of the electric current that generated in our bodies ?

 

[FearGod]

I'm suspecting your meaning got lost in translation. Of course we invented ways to harness electricity and to produce electricity. So what does this have to do with horses?

Horses are designed to be of benefit for humans, we don't need an invention such as in the case of producing electricity.

Horses can be managed to move forward,left,right and backward., if they weren't designed to be so then we can never let them move the way we wish.

 

[YmirGF]

Horses are designed to be of benefit for humans, we don't need an invention such as in the case of producing electricity.

Horses can be managed to move forward,left,right and backward., if they weren't designed to be so then we can never let them move the way we wish.

What? Is there some kind of connection I am missing here? Actually, as weird as your logic is, we did need to create the saddle and reigns in order to make the riding easier. Also, we had to change the horses hooves, by adding horseshoes, because they were not "designed" to do what we chose to use them for.

 

[The Sum of Awe]

Why not get benefit from the wild horses and to be trained as well ?

Because they are wild. It might be possible to train a wild horse, but domesticating it would make it no longer be wild. But it'd take a lot of work to find them in nature and train them from scratch, unlike horse farming.

Electricity is invented by humans and not a creation of God,that's incomparable.

Nope. Electricity is an energy found in nature and used by humans

 

[Sapiens]

Are you saying that the common ancestor of humans and monkeys didn't extinct.

"Extinct" is not a verb, it is an adjective.

 

[Nietzsche]

We have to generate electricity in order to use it, can we have it without the invention of batteries,generators and fuel cells.

Your body is powered by electricity. Nerve pulses & brain chemistry both involve electricity. Your heart beats because of it. And not just us, every other animal(other than maybe arthropods? not sure) is too.

 

[FearGod]

"Extinct" is not a verb, it is an adjective.

Yes true, i think there is no verb form for it.

 

[Sapiens]

Yes true, i think there is no verb form for it.

There is no think, only know.

 

[apophenia]

Horses are designed to be of benefit for humans, .

This idea is in my opinion possibly the most corrupt thought which ever entered the mind of man.

It is an idea which has caused and allowed monstrous cruelty, environmental stupidity and ignorant heartlessness.

Thanks to this idea humans have trampled countless species underfoot. We took paradise, and put up a parking lot.

The sheer malevolent swaggering self-obsession of this view is profoundly ugly.

Sometimes humans have even applied this idea to one another. What are primitive darkies good for ? Slavery, obviously. As God intended.

We are the Ku Klux Klan of species.

 

[FearGod]

What? Is there some kind of connection I am missing here? Actually, as weird as your logic is, we did need to create the saddle and reigns in order to make the riding easier. Also, we had to change the horses hooves, by adding horseshoes, because they were not "designed" to do what we chose to use them for.

Really,thats all about it.

Saddle and horseshoe then it'll be made to move, what if it wasn't made to move regardless of the saddle and the horseshoe, what other options we have.

You neglect the main point and concentrate in the silly one.

 

[FearGod]

This idea is in my opinion possibly the most corrupt thought which ever entered the mind of man.

It is an idea which has caused and allowed monstrous cruelty, environmental stupidity and ignorant heartlessness.

Thanks to this idea humans have trampled countless species underfoot. We took paradise, and put up a parking lot.

The sheer malevolent swaggering self-obsession of this view is profoundly ugly.

Sometimes humans have even applied this idea to one another. What are primitive darkies good for ? Slavery, obviously. As God intended.

We are the Ku Klux Klan of species.

So do you think we should stop killing and eating beef ?
What about bacon ?

 

[The Hammer]

Why do you think so ?

The horse didn't "evolve" to be useful for humans. We, like we do with most things, looked at horses and said "I bet I can use that for _____ ". And thus began many years of training and domesticating horses.

Why is luck, and accident better then "creation"? I don't see either in all honesty. I see natural phenomena, like behavioral modification through the domestication process, that have reasonable explanations that are founded and backed by evidence.

And we are talking about horses, not the world, lets stay on OP.

 

[Nietzsche]

Really,thats all about it.

Saddle and horseshoe then it'll be made to move, what if it wasn't made to move regardless of the saddle and the horseshoe, what other options we have.

You neglect the main point and concentrate in the silly one.

It isn't a silly point, you just refuse to acknowledge that if a Creator designed an animal for us, it would be strong and durable enough to keep up with what we do with it.

Also, the horse as we know it, is very new. We have selectively bred them for thousands of years to achieve what we have now. What we started with was far, far less useful.

So if a Creator did intend for us to use horses, I think s/he rushed the job and should be put under review for their terrible performance.

 

[The Hammer]

Why are you fishing for the "goddidit" answer?
Or are you waiting for the most honest answer of "i don't know" so you can stuff your god in that gap?

He's waiting for the "I don't know" it's pretty obvious what his back-handed attempt at debate is here.

 

[apophenia]

I have heard that Mohammed was exceedingly fond of cats, even considering them as spiritual protectors. And if he went out on his porch, and the birds flew away, he considered that he was not in a fit state to teach.

Is that correct, FearGod ?

 

[FearGod]

The horse didn't "evolve" to be useful for humans. We, like we do with most things, looked at horses and said "I bet I can use that for _____ ". And thus began many years of training and domesticating horses.

Why is luck, and accident better then "creation"? I don't see either in all honesty. I see natural phenomena, like behavioral modification through the domestication process, that have reasonable explanations that are founded and backed by evidence.

And we are talking about horses, not the world, lets stay on OP.

Why do you think modern humans was in need for more than 150,000 years to look at horses and to think if he can use it before being able to actually using it.

 

[The Hammer]

Horses are designed to be of benefit for humans, we don't need an invention such as in the case of producing electricity.

Horses can be managed to move forward,left,right and backward., if they weren't designed to be so then we can never let them move the way we wish.

If they couldn't move forward left right and backwards, they would't be alive.. All things that live have this ability. How is that proof of design? You are saying all animals were "designed" to be of benefit to humans because they move? That's a logic jump if I have ever seen one.