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Why I believe God is good

Starlight

Spiritual but not religious, new age and omnist
Mmm .. some people like to argue about G-d .. that He is 'here' and not 'there' etc.

I think that G-d knows best .. and believe many concepts in scripture are metaphorical.
Is G-d within me? I pray that G-d does not leave us .. that we remember Him always. Amen. :)
God is close to us and God is everywere

We created man, and We know what his soul whispers to him, for We are nearer to him than his jugular vein.” Quran (50:16)

I believe God will never leave us. Because of his love. But good prayer you wrote
 

Trailblazer

Veteran Member
I believe God is everywhere. Because of this God is also within ourself. in our soul.

Jesus said: God’s Kingdom Is Within you Luke 17:20-21
I believe that because Baha'u'llah said it in so many words in the following passage. Just because I cannot wrap my head around it that doesn't mean it is not true. As a human my ability to comprehend God is limited.

“Wert thou to ponder in thine heart, from now until the end that hath no end, and with all the concentrated intelligence and understanding which the greatest minds have attained in the past or will attain in the future, this divinely ordained and subtle Reality, this sign of the revelation of the All-Abiding, All-Glorious God, thou wilt fail to comprehend its mystery or to appraise its virtue. Having recognized thy powerlessness to attain to an adequate understanding of that Reality which abideth within thee, thou wilt readily admit the futility of such efforts as may be attempted by thee, or by any of the created things, to fathom the mystery of the Living God, the Day Star of unfading glory, the Ancient of everlasting days. This confession of helplessness which mature contemplation must eventually impel every mind to make is in itself the acme 166 of human understanding, and marketh the culmination of man’s development.”

Gleanings From the Writings of Bahá’u’lláh, pp. 165-166
 
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Trailblazer

Veteran Member
God is close to us
Indeed. Baha'u'llah wrote that God is closer to us than we are to our own selves.

“Consider, moreover, how frequently doth man become forgetful of his own self, whilst God remaineth, through His all-encompassing knowledge, aware of His creature, and continueth to shed upon him the manifest radiance of His glory. It is evident, therefore, that, in such circumstances, He is closer to him than his own self. He will, indeed, so remain for ever, for, whereas the one true God knoweth all things, perceiveth all things, and comprehendeth all things, mortal man is prone to err, and is ignorant of the mysteries that lie enfolded within him…”

Gleanings From the Writings of Bahá’u’lláh, p. 186
 

Starlight

Spiritual but not religious, new age and omnist
Indeed. Baha'u'llah wrote that God is closer to us than we are to our own selves.

“Consider, moreover, how frequently doth man become forgetful of his own self, whilst God remaineth, through His all-encompassing knowledge, aware of His creature, and continueth to shed upon him the manifest radiance of His glory. It is evident, therefore, that, in such circumstances, He is closer to him than his own self. He will, indeed, so remain for ever, for, whereas the one true God knoweth all things, perceiveth all things, and comprehendeth all things, mortal man is prone to err, and is ignorant of the mysteries that lie enfolded within him…”

Gleanings From the Writings of Bahá’u’lláh, p. 186
Baha'u'llah was indeed a very wise soul
 

Trailblazer

Veteran Member
I don't think @bobhikes does. He used first person singular language in his post, so I still don't understand why you would use first person plural in the response. He was speaking for himself, not for you.
I know that @bobhikes does not believe in God, since he said:
Life without God

I said:
Why can't we have all those things with God?

"we" was intended to refer to people who believe in God, which is implied by with God.

I could have said:
Why can't I have all those things with God? but that is not what I wanted to know.
I wanted to know why believers cannot have the same things that atheists can have while believing in God.
 

SalixIncendium

अहं ब्रह्मास्मि
Staff member
Premium Member
I know that @bobhikes does not believe in God, since he said:
Life without God

I said:
Why can't we have all those things with God?

"we" was intended to refer to people who believe in God, which is implied by with God.

I could have said:
Why can't I have all those things with God? but that is not what I wanted to know.
I wanted to know why believers cannot have the same things that atheists can have while believing in God.
A pronoun antecedent would have been helpful in this capacity.
 

viole

Ontological Naturalist
Premium Member
Why I believe God is good:

It gives me hope.
It gives me strenght
It makes me more safe
I feel loved
Life has meaning

If God is evil then there is no hope.
Life is meaningless
Life is terrible
I feeling unsafe
I feeling not loved
You forgot the case where there is no God whatsoever.

Ciao

- viole
 

TagliatelliMonster

Veteran Member
Why I believe God is good:

It gives me hope.
It gives me strenght
It makes me more safe
I feel loved
Life has meaning

If God is evil then there is no hope.
Life is meaningless
Life is terrible
I feeling unsafe
I feeling not loved

I have hopes, dreams, ambitions,...
I find strength in lots of things.
I feel safe.
I feel loved.
My life has meaning.

Don't need a god for any of it.
 

TagliatelliMonster

Veteran Member
That didn't answer my question. How can you speak intelligently about what @Starlight needs or doesn't need?

You don't need God. That's fine. But it's arrogant to tell another what they need or don't need.
Seems to me that it's just a fair observation.

Plenty of people, including myself, has all those things the OP stated without a need for gods (existing or being good).
If humans can find love, strength, meaning, etc without gods, then other humans can to.

I don't doubt the OP finds those things in / through his god beliefs. But clearly it's just one path. Clearly there are other paths to achieve the same.
So the word "need" is misplaced. You don't "need" gods existing or gods being good to achieve those things, since clearly there are other ways to achieve the same.

Doesn't seem arrogant to me to point that out.
 

Debater Slayer

Vipassana
Staff member
Premium Member
Why I believe God is good:

It gives me hope.
It gives me strenght
It makes me more safe
I feel loved
Life has meaning

If God is evil then there is no hope.
Life is meaningless
Life is terrible
I feeling unsafe
I feeling not loved

I'm glad you have a path that suits you and brings you comfort. :)
 

TagliatelliMonster

Veteran Member
Telling others they don't need God as you and @Twilight Hue have here is, from perspective, no different than a theist telling you that you do.

I disagree.

A theist saying you do need god to find strength, feel loved, find meaning, etc... is clearly incorrect since plenty of atheists find strength, feel loved, etc without belief in gods.

Conversly saying to a theist that they don't need god to achieve such things is clearly correct, since plenty of people achieve such things without needing any gods.

That doesn't mean their belief in god isn't a pathway towards it.
It just means that it's not a prerequisite. That there are other paths able to achieve the same.
 
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