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Why I CANNOT Believe in The Resurrection

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ElishaElijah said:
Floyd was resisting arrest, if he complied he probably would have only died of a drug overdose or heart attack. Maxine was judge and jury on that one
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Past tense. He was resisting arrest. Once the resisting stops extreme measures must be dropped. They were not. That is why the officer was found guilty of murder.

You really should look into these topics before you make yourself look terribly ignorant and very possibly racist.
 
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F1fan said:
So what? That a book includes stories about Jesus doesn't set any sort of objective standard. You can't judge the Quran because it insult the Bible. That's just your personal bias, and irrelevant objectively.


The New Testament came many centuries after the Torah, which never itself mentions Jesus.


So you have no actual standard to dismiss and judge the Quran except that you personally have decided the Bible is the truth. So we throw your claim out.
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The fact that its only radical, fringe groups , crazy skeptics, Internet trolls and islam who deny that Jesus died on a cross ,tells me everything.
 
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Barry Johnson said:
The fact that its only radical, fringe groups , crazy skeptics, Internet trolls and islam who deny that Jesus died on a cross ,tells me everything.
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Again, except for the Islam part you only describe yourself.
Lay off of the personal attacks.

If you really believe the Bible why did you turn tail and run?
 
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Subduction Zone said:
Past tense. He was resisting arrest. Once the resisting stops extreme measures must be dropped. They were not. That is why the officer was found guilty of murder.

You really should look into these topics before you make yourself look terribly ignorant and very possibly racist.
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He overdosed, but why would you bring up racist term únless you’re the racist. Color of the skin has nothing to do with what happened. Cops were called and the guy died of a drug overdose. The cop was found guilty but Floyd brought it on himself as well. You make it seem like he was innocent, showing your ignorance and bias.
 
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Subduction Zone said:
Again, except for the Islam part you only describe yourself.
Lay off of the personal attacks.

If you really believe the Bible why did you turn tail and run?
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I don't deny that Jesus died on the cross ,was buried and rose on the third day. To deny that Jesus died on a cross , was buried and the empty tomb is as wacky as it gets .
 
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ElishaElijah said:
He overdosed, but why would you bring up racist term únless you’re the racist. Color of the skin has nothing to do with what happened. Cops were called and the guy died of a drug overdose. The cop was found guilty but Floyd brought it on himself as well. You make it seem like he was innocent, showing your ignorance and bias.
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Nope. Try again. You are looking like quite the racist here. I never said that he was innocent. In fact my post implied that he was guilty of a minor crime. It did not merit the death penalty.
 
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Barry Johnson said:
I don't deny that Jesus died on the cross ,was buried and rose on the third day. To deny that Jesus died on a cross , was buried and the empty tomb is as wacky as it gets .
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So you disagree with the Bible.

And no, to believe a fairy tale is as wacky as it gets. To even believe that he was taken down is a bit on the nutty side. Do you know what the Romans usually did with crucified victims?
 
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Subduction Zone said:
So you disagree with the Bible.

And no, to believe a fairy tale is as wacky as it gets. To even believe that he was taken down is a bit on the nutty side. Do you know what the Romans usually did with crucified victims?
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I believe and agree with: 1cor 15
1¶Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand;

2By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain.

3¶For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;

4And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:

5And that he was seen of Cephas, then of the twelve:

6After that, he was seen of above five hundred brethren at once; of whom the greater part remain unto this present, but some are fallen asleep.

7After that, he was seen of James; then of all the apostles.

8And last of all he was seen of me also, as of one born out of due time.

9¶For I am the least of the apostles, that am not meet to be called an apostle, because I persecuted the church of God.
 
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Subduction Zone said:
Nope. Try again. You are looking like quite the racist here. I never said that he was innocent. In fact my post implied that he was guilty of a minor crime. It did not merit the death penalty.
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You’re better off talking to yourself. This is exactly the race baiting that Democrats do. You bring up racism when someone has a different take on situation. The cop obviously was wrong putting his knee on his neck for 9 minutes and should’ve sat him up after he was subdued. Floyd shouldn’t have resisted arrest, taken the drug cocktail, had a lethal dose of fentanyl in his system that were contributing factors in his death. But have no idea why you bring up race, seems you like the division and obsessed with it.
 
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sojourner said:
Because the Bible has human authors, writing through their own lenses of understanding. “Logos” equates more precisely to “idea,” “precept,” or “concept” in a world where writing is not the norm. Printed text would have been the last thing on their minds.
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Not how Jesus viewed the Scriptures at all:
“Now when the tempter came to Him, he said, “If You are the Son of God, command that these stones become bread.” But He answered and said, “It is written, ‘Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceeds from the mouth of God.’ ” Then the devil took Him up into the holy city, set Him on the pinnacle of the temple, and said to Him, “If You are the Son of God, throw Yourself down. For it is written: ‘He shall give His angels charge over you,’ and, ‘In their hands they shall bear you up, Lest you dash your foot against a stone.’ ” Jesus said to him, “It is written again, ‘You shall not tempt the LORD your God.’ ” Again, the devil took Him up on an exceedingly high mountain, and showed Him all the kingdoms of the world and their glory. And he said to Him, “All these things I will give You if You will fall down and worship me.” Then Jesus said to him, “Away with you, Satan! For it is written, ‘You shall worship the LORD your God, and Him only you shall serve.’ ” Then the devil left Him, and behold, angels came and ministered to Him.”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭4:3-11‬ ‭NKJV‬‬
 
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ElishaElijah said:
You’re better off talking to yourself. This is exactly the race baiting that Democrats do. You bring up racism when someone has a different take on situation. The cop obviously was wrong putting his knee on his neck for 9 minutes and should’ve sat him up after he was subdued. Floyd shouldn’t have resisted arrest, taken the drug cocktail, had a lethal dose of fentanyl in his system that were contributing factors in his death. But have no idea why you bring up race, seems you like the division and obsessed with it.
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There was no evidence of a lethal overdose. You need to support your claims. And yes you sound exactly like a racist defending the murder of a black man. He was in handcuffs. He was subdued. No need for a knee on the neck.

You were the one that brought up the riots that occurred from that event. Not me. How does that make me the obsessed one? Your false accusations won't convince anyone. Ooh! I take that back. Your false accusations would only convince a racist.
 
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Subduction Zone said:
There was no evidence of a lethal overdose. You need to support your claims. And yes you sound exactly like a racist defending the murder of a black man. He was in handcuffs. He was subdued. No need for a knee on the neck.
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There was no evidence of a lethal overdose. You need to support your claims. And yes you sound exactly like a racist defending the murder of a black man. He was in handcuffs. He was subdued. No need for a knee on the neck.
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Already supported and part of the medical examiner report.
 
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