Why I CANNOT Believe in The Resurrection

[rational experiences]

A human. I look at anything and say I will name it. Even any body in space.

Conscious human egotism seen for what you became.

I am the highest form. I believe I am better than any other subject of my discussion by inferring by word use.

Just a human living on one planet.

What egotism is as a human. Thinks they own anything they discuss as they give it human inferred meaning.

A human looks back. The condition identified as life destroyer.

A spiritual human topic. Don't look back at dead things.

Yet you do.

Dead in science black.

Human highest body lives with living animals.

Cannot be the living animal in any thesis.

If he tried to infer his form once an animal today he would bring radiation back. Irradiated everything until human DNA mutated and gets transformed into animal type bodies.

Of his researched idealism.

Then the animals would get attacked.

Moses event animal life plus human boarded by image the UFO cloud effect ground water taken to amass clouds above mountain tips attacked by UFO landing hits.

The topic. Radiation flooding heavens causes ground water flood by cooling causes.

Life is not radiation in other words. Yet a bio life not radiation is doing all comparisons

 

[Colt]

In the model prayer we are instructed to pray ' thy kingdom come..... ' Not came.
Daniel 2:44 is still future. That government like any other government is Not within a person.
I see No 'present tense' used at John announcing at John 3:3-6; John 3:5; John 18:36.
Jesus reigns for one-thousand years and that is: future - 1 Corinthians 15:24-26.
I suppose you don't like what Jesus taught at Luke 19:11-15 _______

And when he was demanded of the Pharisees, when the kingdom of God should come, he answered them and said, The kingdom of God cometh not with observation: Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.

We are supposed to live by Gods will now because we are in the kingdom now......not wait thousands of years to do Gods will.

Our Father, who art in heaven,
hallowed be thy name;
thy kingdom come;
thy will be done;
on earth as it is in heaven.
Give us this day our daily bread.
And forgive us our trespasses,
as we forgive those who trespass against us.
And lead us not into temptation;
but deliver us from evil.
For thine is the kingdom,
the power and the glory,
for ever and ever.
Amen.

 

[Colt]

John 2:19-22 is figurative speech in comparing his coming death and resurrection to a demolition and reconstruction of a building.
Yes, Jesus is the foretold Messiah the figurative ' chief cornerstone ' but Not a literal cornerstone.
Surely the Jews thought he was speaking of Herod's temple (Mark 14:58) Not the temple of his body - John 2:21
Jesus was resurrected Not in a body made or built with hands like the temple was, but a spirit body (his pre-human heavenly spirit body) which was ' built ' by his Creator, his Father. - Acts of the Apostles 2:24; 1 Peter 3:18 ( spirit ).
Scripture shows who resurrected dead Jesus (Acts 2:27) - Acts of the Apostles 10:40; Romans 8:11; Hebrews 13:20

Indeed, that pre-human heavenly body returned of its own volition because it is God. The heavenly body of the Son was never killed by death. He had the inherent power to lay it down and the power to take it up again. No need to even rely on secondary characterizations or rationalizations. Jesus made it clear with his own words.

 

[ElishaElijah]

Give us some examples so we know what you mean.


Are you referring to trump's continual claim that there was rampant voter fraud and that he won?



That is what we observe, and it's part of the problem.



Unless you're a person of color. I assume you aren't a person of color, yes?


What makes you think democrats do this, exactly? Cite facts.

BTW I noticed you avoided the fact that Democrats are diverse while Republicans are mostly white people. No explanation for why that is?


Floyd was a citizen who had rights guaranteed by the Constitution. And the officer was a trained person who has an obligation to follow our Constitution while performing his duty. He failed to honor his duty. This applies to all people.

Democrats diverse compared to Republicans was so dumb it and wrong it didn’t need an answer. Shows you’re blind. Democrats: See how diverse we are, now stay in line and don’t think for yourself, here’s your script and you better stick to it or else.

 

[whosetosay...]

I tested it for 60 years. Nothing happened to me one way or the other. I finally came to the realization I was wasting my time. I might as well have been praying to a brick wall.

Not doubting you for one minute or your experience. What were you expecting to happen to you? It is always interesting to know what you expected from your faith?

 

[ElishaElijah]

Give us some examples so we know what you mean.


Are you referring to trump's continual claim that there was rampant voter fraud and that he won?



That is what we observe, and it's part of the problem.



Unless you're a person of color. I assume you aren't a person of color, yes?


What makes you think democrats do this, exactly? Cite facts.

BTW I noticed you avoided the fact that Democrats are diverse while Republicans are mostly white people. No explanation for why that is?


Floyd was a citizen who had rights guaranteed by the Constitution. And the officer was a trained person who has an obligation to follow our Constitution while performing his duty. He failed to honor his duty. This applies to all people.

Fact check: Kente cloths have ties to West African slave trade
Lol

 

[whosetosay...]

Just can't take the competition can you? Jesus always has to be better, the only way. That is not how Baha's think or believe, in terms of better and best.

Was Jesus better in anyway that Baha?

Trailblazer, do you compare them as human beings, Sons of God or even the word of God coming to pass?

Humility, is something both these people had. No one better than anyone else. No competition just a call to love God and love others. If, you note the teachings of Christ, he claimed no glory for himself. Always love God first and your neighbor. Did Baha do this? Did he teach love God and your neighbor?

No competition simply about being obedient to the truth a truth which is not denied.

The reason the religions are at odds with each other is because they misinterpreted their scriptures, which led them to believe that their religion was the only true religion and the last religion that would ever be established by God. With such a belief they had to be at odds with any religion that was established before or after their religion.

Misinterpreted scripture, did not cause religions to be at odds with each other. Religions are non-existent without mankind. Gods people in the bible who were living prophets and writers of the bible were human beings who knew God in a personal relationship. Using your way of reasoning we could discount any religion in the human hemisphere. Like Christ, the religious figures of the past all obeyed God. They did this and grew closer to him and knew his will. Spiritual figures not just religious figures learned that LOVE is the key to knowing the truth and being who we were created to be.

Baha’u’llah warns us never to make any distinction between any of the Messengers of God because they all arise to proclaim the same religion, since there is only one eternal religion of God. Baha’u’llah wrote that the works and acts of all the Messengers of God were all ordained by God, a reflection of His Will and Purpose.

Nice idealism, but very much like saying " all roads lead to Rome." or " all religions lead to Rome."
Evil exists in the world and false prophets too.

On November 18, 1978, 918 Americans died in Peoples Temple–related incidents, including 909 members of the Temple, led by Jim Jones, in Jonestown, Guyana. The dead included 276 children.

Did these arise as prophets to promote the same religion should we make distinctions between what is a good prophet and what an evil prophet is? The will of God is shown in spirit and truth. Men of God have always preached the same God and the same truths have come to pass. If we fail to be able to recognise good and bad and pass everything as the will of God then we deceive not only ourselves but others too. Love and blessings abound from the true God.

“Beware, O believers in the Unity of God, lest ye be tempted to make any distinction between any of the Manifestations of His Cause, or to discriminate against the signs that have accompanied and proclaimed their Revelation. This indeed is the true meaning of Divine Unity, if ye be of them that apprehend and believe this truth. Be ye assured, moreover, that the works and acts of each and every one of these Manifestations of God, nay whatever pertaineth unto them, and whatsoever they may manifest in the future, are all ordained by God, and are a reflection of His Will and Purpose. Whoso maketh the slightest possible difference between their persons, their words, their messages, their acts and manners, hath indeed disbelieved in God, hath repudiated His signs, and betrayed the Cause of His Messengers.” Gleanings From the Writings of Bahá’u’lláh, pp. 59-60

9Remember the former things of old: for I am God, and there is none else; I am God, and there is none like me,


10Declaring the end from the beginning, and from ancient times the things that are not yet done, saying, My counsel shall stand, and I will do all my pleasure:

God has declared the end from the beginning. Man is not called to judge but he is called to make the right call between good and evil. Was Jim Jones a prophet of God or not? Do not confuse judgement of persons with distinction of right and wrong. Clean and impure water cannot exist in the same place. So which do you think is right? Do you understand your own scripture?

 

[F1fan]

Democrats diverse compared to Republicans was so dumb it and wrong it didn’t need an answer. Shows you’re blind.

So you're saying I'm blind by observing diversity among Democrats and little among Republicans. That's ironic.

Democrats: See how diverse we are, now stay in line and don’t think for yourself, here’s your script and you better stick to it or else.

I noted the diversity among Democrats to rebut your claim that Democrats are racist. Your response was to ignore the fact of high diversity among Democrats and little among Republicans.

 

[F1fan]

Fact check: Kente cloths have ties to West African slave trade
Lol

You made no effort to explain how this is relevant.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Democrats diverse compared to Republicans was so dumb it and wrong it didn’t need an answer. Shows you’re blind. Democrats: See how diverse we are, now stay in line and don’t think for yourself, here’s your script and you better stick to it or else.

No clue, as usual. Just personal attacks after being shown to be wrong

 

[SeekingAllTruth]

Not doubting you for one minute or your experience. What were you expecting to happen to you? It is always interesting to know what you expected from your faith?

It was so long ago I don't recall.

 

[F1fan]

Indeed, that pre-human heavenly body returned of its own volition because it is God.

But isn't God everywhere? Or do parts of God hang out in heaven, wherever that is?

And how does the heavenly body differ from the spirit?

The heavenly body of the Son was never killed by death. He had the inherent power to lay it down and the power to take it up again. No need to even rely on secondary characterizations or rationalizations. Jesus made it clear with his own words.

OK, so if Jesus was in whole, or in part, God then did Jesus have the advantage of knowing the he was going to be executed and sacrificed for the sins of mankind as God surely knew? If so the human part of Jesus had to just carry out the role it had to play, yes?

 

[Colt]

But isn't God everywhere? Or do parts of God hang out in heaven, wherever that is?

And how does the heavenly body differ from the spirit?


OK, so if Jesus was in whole, or in part, God then did Jesus have the advantage of knowing the he was going to be executed and sacrificed for the sins of mankind as God surely knew? If so the human part of Jesus had to just carry out the role it had to play, yes?

Prior to coming to earth to live out the human life of one of his own created beings, I speculate that the Son and his Gospel could anticipate being rejected by such a savage and fallen world. When God chose to speak through prophets, he probably could also foresee their message being rejected and harm coming to them. Jesus told his followers that many would be persecuted and killed by religious people who would think they were doing a service to God.

 

[F1fan]

Prior to coming to earth to live out the human life of one of his own created beings, I speculate that the Son and his Gospel could anticipate being rejected by such a savage and fallen world. When God chose to speak through prophets, he probably could also foresee their message being rejected and harm coming to them. Jesus told his followers that many would be persecuted and killed by religious people who would think they were doing a service to God.

So to clarify your belief, you don't think God is timeless and can see the future?

And Einstein was wrong, God plays dice with the universe?

 

[ElishaElijah]

You made no effort to explain how this is relevant.

Speaks for itself, do you need an expert to tell you

 

[Colt]

So to clarify your belief, you don't think God is timeless and can see the future?

To clarify my belief, The Universal Father delegates powers and authority in his Creator Sons. Jesus of Nazareth, aka Christ Michael, is our creator, his Father is like a grandfather to us. But because we are "personality" finite man can only know the Gods as One. So the person of Jesus of Nazareth was the creator of man and many celestial beings under his authority. Lucifer was one of those beings that had been loyal but rebelled.

Specifically, we don't know what the Father chooses to know about the events of his Sons in their time experiences. But if he wanted to he could "know" his Son would be rejected.

 

[F1fan]

To clarify my belief, The Universal Father delegates powers and authority in his Creator Sons. Jesus of Nazareth, aka Christ Michael, is our creator, his Father is like a grandfather to us. But because we are "personality" finite man can only know the Gods as One. So the person of Jesus of Nazareth was the creator of man and many celestial beings under his authority. Lucifer was one of those beings that had been loyal but rebelled.

Specifically, we don't know what the Father chooses to know about the events of his Sons in their time experiences. But if he wanted to he could "know" his Son would be rejected.

Where did you hear about all these ideas?

Jesus is "our" creator? Do you mean humans? The whole of the universe?

 

[Colt]

Where did you hear about all these ideas?

Jesus is "our" creator? Do you mean humans? The whole of the universe?

This part of the local universe.

We've known about the divinity of Jesus since he left.

 

[F1fan]

Speaks for itself, do you need an expert to tell you

If you are going to argue a point you need facts and a coherent argument.

And let's note you've rejected the expert testimony in the Chauvin trial, so irony at work.

 

[ElishaElijah]

So you're saying I'm blind by observing diversity among Democrats and little among Republicans. That's ironic.



I noted the diversity among Democrats to rebut your claim that Democrats are racist. Your response was to ignore the fact of high diversity among Democrats and little among Republicans.

As far as diversity both parties are about the same if you’re looking at outward appearance. The problem with you and Democrats is that’s your focus, skin color. That’s racist