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Why I left Islâm

Kodanshi

StygnosticA
Last year, in January of 2008 on the 1st of Muharram 1429 AH — the start of the new year according to the Islamic calendar, I announced online my apostasy from Islâm. I went onto my favourite muslim forum (mainly due to some of the posters there), Ummah.com, and announced I had turned murtad.

I simply don’t believe. Not only in Islam as a divinely–sanctioned religion, but in divinity altogether. I have read too much, seen too much the manmade origins of each religion, inconsistencies and errors in Islâm, ridiculous notions that could only come from a desert people in the 7th century and not an almighty omnipotent deity, I have felt no divine presence throughout my life, seen the way nature doesn’t need a conscious guiding hand… I have seen and felt all this too much to give any credence to commonly–held notions of Divinity and Theism.

Some of the members there expressed sadness and shock, others incandescent rage and sneering hostility — and most of the latter came when I pointed out that the founder of Islam, Muhammad, sanctioned the death of apostates from Islâm. At that point people acted as though I’d ‘done a Rushdie’ and one of the moderators closed my thread quicksmart. It interests me that the ultimate act of betrayal and evil (I had announced I do not believe in allah) met with some shocked reactions, but only when I mentioned Muhammad did the moderator close my thread. Odd, that, don’t you think?

I don’t regret leaving Islâm. It has, however, left me with some flaws and old habits, though I consciously try to change them. A chap on another forum tasked me with a list of actions I should complete in order to continue moving on in my life, eg. making a pot of chili and eating it, watching the sun rise, and suchlike. None of it far removed from the way I’ve lived my life normally — but I suppose working through the list would provide me with something specific to look forward to and even push me out of my comfort zone.

It feels a bit more like… maturity. Putting away the childish thoughts of god making everything ok and stepping up to take responsibility for my own actions. Scary, but necessary for true growth.
 

linwood

Well-Known Member
It feels a bit more like… maturity. Putting away the childish thoughts of god making everything ok and stepping up to take responsibility for my own actions. Scary, but necessary for true growth.

It is scary and while I`m sure you`ve overcome much after a year I advise you to just keep taking it one thing at a time.

Your friend sounds wise.

How has your family reacted to your loss of faith?
Do you have any support at home?
 

YmirGF

Bodhisattva in Recovery
It feels a bit more like… maturity. Putting away the childish thoughts of god making everything ok and stepping up to take responsibility for my own actions. Scary, but necessary for true growth.
I can only offer my support in your choice. Don't worry, the fear will ebb eventually. If indeed there is a god, I am quite sure he would understand your reasons and also be equally supportive. All in all, welcome back to reality. I don't think anyone will promise you a rose garden, but at least your actions will be from the heart and what you intend. Congratulations.

Respectfully,

Paul
 

kai

ragamuffin
I commend you and know that this decision took some courage.I hope you stick around on RF because you have a unique perspective that i hope you will share.

Kai
 

Smoke

Done here.
Congratulations! It's one thing to stop believing, but it takes a certain amount of courage to announce your apostasy. I still don't talk about mine (from Christianity) with some people.
 

Seven

six plus one
Great story Kodanshi, and congratulations.
It feels a bit more like… maturity. Putting away the childish thoughts of god making everything ok and stepping up to take responsibility for my own actions. Scary, but necessary for true growth.
Really loved that line, and here I am with no frubals left
 

DavyCrocket2003

Well-Known Member
I don't share your total dismissal of Islam. While I feel that its modern application is often very flawed, it seems to hold some very powerful ideas that I find of value. I don't think you have to throw the whole thing out the window, just the parts that are bad.
 

kai

ragamuffin
I don't share your total dismissal of Islam. While I feel that its modern application is often very flawed, it seems to hold some very powerful ideas that I find of value. I don't think you have to throw the whole thing out the window, just the parts that are bad.


can you have a partial dismissal of Islam?
 

kai

ragamuffin
submission

Submission is a religion whereby one recognizes God’s absolute authority, and reaches a conviction that only God possesses all power; no other entity possesses any power that is independent of Him. The natural result of such a realization is to devote one’s life and one’s worship absolutely to God alone. This is the First Commandment in all the scriptures, including the Old Testament, the New Testament and the Final Testament
 
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ranjana

Active Member
it is so beautiful to read about someone turning inward for the answers, it sounds like you have a wonderful guide within. (and your friend's task list is absolutely wonderful!)

i think spirituality gets perverted in orthodoxy.... takes a very brave person to think for themselves!!! This post made my night... I was just reading the women's rights in islam thread, and feeling very disheartened. I am so happy to read about someone who has not been made blind from faith.
 

DavyCrocket2003

Well-Known Member
Point Taken. I doubt many Muslims would accept me, yet I feel accepted when I read the Quran. It's message is a message of belief in God. Since I believe in God, I feel rather at home with much of Islam. I feel that it was founded on truth, yet the walls were not so sturdily built. The blueprint is good, but the roof leaks.
 
Kodanshi,

Thank you for sharing this. There are many of us on this forum who have had similar experiences maturing and growing out of religion...however, I don't know of anyone else who became a freethinker from an Islamic background.

Therefore I am very, very interested in hearing your perspective on so many things...I have so many questions...

You mentioned the fact that you had 'read too much'...I also noticed from another post, in another thread, that you understand logical fallacies such as 'tu quoque'....what kinds of things did you read, which expanded your knowledge and caused you to question?

What have your experiences been like in your personal life....have your family/friends accepted you?
 

Gharib

I want Khilafah back
wow, wow guys. i haven't commented yet, take it slowly

i'd like to keep up, so just be patien, i don't have any free time to wright anything appart from this, cos i have to go. i'm getting busy lately.

see you's next time.

Edit;

it wont be much fun if i didn't have anything to say right?
 

Gharib

I want Khilafah back
Point Taken. I doubt many Muslims would accept me, yet I feel accepted when I read the Quran. It's message is a message of belief in God. Since I believe in God, I feel rather at home with much of Islam. I feel that it was founded on truth, yet the walls were not so sturdily built. The blueprint is good, but the roof leaks.

friend, the satan is amking you think that, just try a bit harder and you'll see, your 'iman' or belief is weak, if you really would like to understand it better just have some faith.

can i ask does this come to mind whe you read the quran or afterwoods? hope you don't mind.
 

Gharib

I want Khilafah back
it is so beautiful to read about someone turning inward for the answers, it sounds like you have a wonderful guide within. (and your friend's task list is absolutely wonderful!)

i think spirituality gets perverted in orthodoxy.... takes a very brave person to think for themselves!!! This post made my night... I was just reading the women's rights in islam thread, and feeling very disheartened. I am so happy to read about someone who has not been made blind from faith.

what sort of braveness did you need to right this?
 

Zephyr

Moved on
Why I left Islam: Only a malevolent god would give free will yet demand enslavement. This is just the start really. Also, for a religion that supposedly opposes idolatry, many Muslims sure seem to make a sort of demigod out of Muhammed.
 

kai

ragamuffin
wow, wow guys. i haven't commented yet, take it slowly

i'd like to keep up, so just be patien, i don't have any free time to wright anything appart from this, cos i have to go. i'm getting busy lately.

see you's next time.

Edit;

it wont be much fun if i didn't have anything to say right?


dont worry esalam we have all been waiting for you:D
 
friend, the satan is amking you think that, just try a bit harder and you'll see, your 'iman' or belief is weak, if you really would like to understand it better just have some faith.
No you fool, it's the Aliens that are making him think that. You don't need faith, you need an aluminum hat to ward off their mind rays.
 
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