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Why I left Islâm

Kilgore Trout

Misanthropic Humanist
it takes courage to be a Muslim too. you know, there are weirdos who believe all Muslims are terrorists, there are people who say Islam is evil, it is ideas of a mad man who lived in 7th century, some believe we Muslims want to kill all non-Muslims etc etc etc then you come up and say 'i convert to Islam i am a Muslim'. oh la la can you imagine how it feels like to be a Muslim around people who's expecting you to kill them or harm them? oh yea...courage, tell me about it.

Boo-hoo. Poor you. You need a hug there, fella?
 

eugenius

The Truth Lies Within
it takes courage to be a Muslim too. you know, there are weirdos who believe all Muslims are terrorists, there are people who say Islam is evil, it is ideas of a mad man who lived in 7th century, some believe we Muslims want to kill all non-Muslims etc etc etc then you come up and say 'i convert to Islam i am a Muslim'. oh la la can you imagine how it feels like to be a Muslim around people who's expecting you to kill them or harm them? oh yea...courage, tell me about it.


peace :cool:

I can understand that. Maybe you non radical muslims should stand up to these radicals as they are ruining your lives as well.

Another prime example of how religion causes mass suffering.
 

.lava

Veteran Member
Boo-hoo. Poor you. You need a hug there, fella?

LOL atotalstranger good luck on hugging complete strangers....and no no hugs thanks i am just teasing Kai only because of the word he used, 'courage'. however what i told him i's still what i think.



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.lava

Veteran Member
I can understand that. Maybe you non radical muslims should stand up to these radicals as they are ruining your lives as well.

Another prime example of how religion causes mass suffering.

there is only one thing that is ruining my life and that is my own ignorance not yours, not theirs.

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eugenius

The Truth Lies Within
there is only one thing that is ruining my life and that is my own ignorance not yours, not theirs.

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did you not say you were having a hard time being muslim because of all the insane radicals? does that not negatively effect your life?
 

DavyCrocket2003

Well-Known Member
it takes courage to be a Muslim too. you know, there are weirdos who believe all Muslims are terrorists, there are people who say Islam is evil, it is ideas of a mad man who lived in 7th century, some believe we Muslims want to kill all non-Muslims etc etc etc then you come up and say 'i convert to Islam i am a Muslim'. oh la la can you imagine how it feels like to be a Muslim around people who's expecting you to kill them or harm them? oh yea...courage, tell me about it.


peace :cool:

I know. Isn't it a shame... I wish we could all get over ourselves and just see each other for what we are. Brothers and sisters of the human race. We need more love in the world, less fear and hatred. I really wish we would take more time to understand each other rather than criticize and put down.
 

eugenius

The Truth Lies Within
I know. Isn't it a shame... I wish we could all get over ourselves and just see each other for what we are. Brothers and sisters of the human race. We need more love in the world, less fear and hatred. I really wish we would take more time to understand each other rather than criticize and put down.

maybe we need to rid of religion in order to achieve this goal?
 

Kodanshi

StygnosticA
No offence, like, but we’ve drifted off–topic. If people want to discuss how hard muslims have it following their religion then can you please make a separate thread about it.

At any rate, does anyone have an on–topic questions or comments?
 

DavyCrocket2003

Well-Known Member
Sorry:eek:

Yes, I do. Speaking from your inside experience, what can we do to help Muslims open up more? How can we make them feel more comfortable talking and debating with us even without agreeing one hundred percent? How can we help them be more comfortable and less defensive?
 

DavyCrocket2003

Well-Known Member
Sorry:eek:

Yes, I do. Speaking from your inside experience, what can we do to help Muslims open up more? How can we make them feel more comfortable talking and debating with us even without agreeing one hundred percent? How can we help them be more comfortable and less defensive?

Not saying they're all that way. It just seems like a high percentage.
 

Gharib

I want Khilafah back
Are you saying that because you don't believe in Global Warming

i do, but Allah controlls it, rain doesn't come down by chance or by water vapour as scientists say, the are always agains a god creator,

even though it's easy to tell you have barely scratched the surface on your research, that this proves beyond a doubt that Allah exists? Can you please explain this logic so I can understand it better?

what do you wan't me explain? i too don't get ehat you are asking.
 

Gharib

I want Khilafah back
it takes courage to be a Muslim too. you know, there are weirdos who believe all Muslims are terrorists, there are people who say Islam is evil, it is ideas of a mad man who lived in 7th century, some believe we Muslims want to kill all non-Muslims etc etc etc then you come up and say 'i convert to Islam i am a Muslim'. oh la la can you imagine how it feels like to be a Muslim around people who's expecting you to kill them or harm them? oh yea...courage, tell me about it.


peace :cool:

yes yes, were where those blessed hands to wright these words before. very true, and yet the muslims are considered intolerant. and judge freaks, and racists, or religiocists should i say.
 

darkendless

Guardian of Asgaard
That is not proof that you exist.
There are little programs called "bots" that can and do post all manner of stuff to message boards.

Robots aren't quite as fundamental. Even programmed with the Quran they have common sense. Good ol' technology aye :)
 

McBell

Unbound
Robots aren't quite as fundamental. Even programmed with the Quran they have common sense. Good ol' technology aye :)
Unless of course the programmer specifically programed it that way.

On another forum i used to be on, they had a bot that would scan posts for verses from the Bible and the Quran and then would reference a verse that was related.
The thing is though, that if there was nothing for the bot to relate the verse to, it merely threw out random verses.

Then if someone had the word 'quit' or 'tried' at the end of their post, the bot would claim victory.

In the evolution threads it would bring up the same old worn out arguments against evolution and would even ignore all the evidence presented to it by making Kent Hovind replies.

I have to admit that it was an extremely good representation of certain members here on RF.


All in all, A most impressive bot.
 
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darkendless

Guardian of Asgaard
Unless of course the programmer specifically programed it that way.

On another forum i used to be on, they had a bot that would scan posts for verses from the Bible and the Quran and then would reference a verse that was related.
The thing is though, that if there was nothing for the bot to relate the verse to, it merely threw out random verses.

Then if someone had the word 'quit' or 'tried' at the end of their post, the bot would claim victory.

In the evolution threads it would bring up the same old worn out arguments against evolution and would even ignore all the evidence presented to it by making Kent Hovind replies.

I have to admit that it was an extremely good representation of certain members here on RF.

Thats pretty cool. I cant imagine the hours it took to code that though :eek:

Eselam is too sophistcated to be a bot, sophisticated in a human, non-perfect way.

I remember the msn robot you could add to talk to. I found out he was also a programmed scientific calculator :)

Some people on here will argue until they break all their fingers typing lol, even when 12-15 members oppose their lunacy. Provides entertainment all round, and some tears occasionally im sure.
 

Gharib

I want Khilafah back
Thats pretty cool. I cant imagine the hours it took to code that though :eek:

Eselam is too sophistcated to be a bot, sophisticated in a human, non-perfect way.

I remember the msn robot you could add to talk to. I found out he was also a programmed scientific calculator :)

Some people on here will argue until they break all their fingers typing lol, even when 12-15 members oppose their lunacy. Provides entertainment all round, and some tears occasionally im sure.

what are you saying man, i don't get you?

and for the second part, those opposers are the insane people not me, and i don't type fast, so don't worry. why give up even if 1000 people are against me when i'm right. all the arabs were against muhammed (saws) and yet his message came across to me.
 

Gharib

I want Khilafah back
Quote:
Originally Posted by eselam
ok let me ask you something; how does rain come about?
in chemistry it is said that the sun heats the oceans, water turns to vapour, which then turns to clouds and at the top of the mountain it rains.

is this what you also beleive? you must believe in this because acording to you Allah (swt) does not make vegetation come to life from rain, and that rain just comes down by it's own will. i wonder how rain knows it is time to rain?
Quote:
Originally posted by Koanshi
Something like your first paragraph. However, though I studied Geography at A–Level I did it because I could not settle on a choice of which final subject to pick. I don’t know the intricately detailed ins and outs of our planet’s weather system, but I know enough to say that some mysterious supernatural entity doesn’t cause it.


Quote:
Originally Posted by eselam
so if rain comes down in that way, where is it then? look at what global warming is doing, heating up the earth, shoulden't we be flooded by rain by now? the seas are becoming warmer, meaning they water can evaporise more quicker, which will turn into clouds more often, which means there would be more rain more often. but i haven's seen any, have you? and not in just some parts or countries but in all of the ones who touch the see or have lakes inland.

is anyone going to reply to this? i was asked to posted so...................still waiting
 
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