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why is it that religions feel the need to spread?

columbus

yawn <ignore> yawn
I feel the need to spread my religion. Yet, not among those on earth. I don't make a penny. Why do I do that?
You can do little to spread silmarism that hasn't been done. Most people just aren't sophisticated enough for a demonstrably fictional religion. They prefer the illusion that age brings.
Tom
 

melosh

Member
You can do little to spread silmarism that hasn't been done. Most people just aren't sophisticated enough for a demonstrably fictional religion. They prefer the illusion that age brings.
Tom

The point of Silmarism is that in a fictional world, you can spread it all you wish. It doesn't matter if people of this world believe.
 

Saint Frankenstein

Here for the ride
Premium Member
Not all religions are interested in proselytization, not even all members of religions that do proselytize are interested in doing so. However, Christians are to share the Gospel for the redemption and salvation of souls, but it's the choice of each individual to accept it or not.
 

ZooGirl02

Well-Known Member
I can't speak for other religions but I can speak for my own religion, the Catholic Church. As a Catholic, I feel called to spread my religion because I believe with all of my heart that the Catholic Church is the one and only completely true religion containing all of the Truth on matters of faith and morals. I believe that it is the religion which God gave to us so that we could go to be with Him forever in Heaven. I believe that as far as our permanent eternal destiny goes, we only have Heaven or Hell to choose from and therefore I want to give people the best chance possible at going to Heaven by hopefully gaining their conversion to Catholicism.
 

ametist

Active Member
It doesnt. Only when they are first given it had to reach to certain people as it has been planned by god for the religion to remain. Later that it didnt ever require any human effort spent just to spread religion.
 

melosh

Member
Religion is a part of culture, But as I said, It's not a culture.

The smaller religions do have leaders, If you want to include Jesus then you have to include the creators of all religions as leaders. Therefore, Smaller religions are no better than larger ones. They have leaders and followers too.

I was using Jesus and the pope as examples. And one of my arguments is that smaller religions are no better. They just don't spread their religions as much, and because of that, remain small. When a religion tries to spread, either it gets wiped out, or grows to a very large size.

Also, I used Jesus as an example because many Christians will follow whatever he says. This is not true for all creators.
 

ChristineES

Tiggerism
Premium Member
Nearly all religions wish for everyone to follow them. Because of this, there are crusades, and arguments for the religion.

You might say it is for their own good, but wouldn't it be better if they discovered that themselves? If it's so true, why won't science in time prove it? Until then, there is no need to force people into your religion. Anyone who does not believe will be fighting against science and facts, instead of the believers of today

When people have something that makes them feel good, whole, enlightened, etc, they naturally want to tell others about it. I think that might be what motivates people for the most part. It probably doesn't enter anyone's mind that whatever makes them feel that way will be the same for others.
 

Ingledsva

HEATHEN ALASKAN
I can't speak for other religions but I can speak for my own religion, the Catholic Church. As a Catholic, I feel called to spread my religion because I believe with all of my heart that the Catholic Church is the one and only completely true religion containing all of the Truth on matters of faith and morals. I believe that it is the religion which God gave to us so that we could go to be with Him forever in Heaven. I believe that as far as our permanent eternal destiny goes, we only have Heaven or Hell to choose from and therefore I want to give people the best chance possible at going to Heaven by hopefully gaining their conversion to Catholicism.


Personally, I don't believe the Bible teaches about a HELL of torture for people whom don't believe, etc.


I think it teaches that those whom believe, will rise to life, and those whom don't, will stay in Sheol/Hades/Grave, which it says is totally annihilated in the Lake of Fire/refining fire.


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As JWs we preach the message of God's Kingdom coming to rule over the Earth as Jesus told his followers to do. Checkout Matthew 24:14, Matthew 28:19-20
 

savagewind

Veteran Member
Premium Member
As JWs we preach the message of God's Kingdom coming to rule over the Earth as Jesus told his followers to do. Checkout Matthew 24:14, Matthew 28:19-20

The good news of Matthew 24:14 is the one who stands firm to the end will be saved which is right before Matthew 24:14 at Matthew 24:13.

You say God's Kingdom is "coming" but the scripture you use to prove it says Jesus "is with" them who are his disciples. Are there no diciples until the governing body of Jehovah's Witnesses? They say Jesus is only with them, that he is between God and them and they are between Jesus and us. Who is that good news for?

Jehovah's Witnesses teach the Earth can only be a paradise without dissenters so God's Kingdom coming means death for them and the JWs call this "good news".
 

DawudTalut

Peace be upon you.
Nearly all religions wish for everyone to follow them. Because of this, there are crusades, and arguments for the religion.

You might say it is for their own good, but wouldn't it be better if they discovered that themselves? If it's so true, why won't science in time prove it? Until then, there is no need to force people into your religion. Anyone who does not believe will be fighting against science and facts, instead of the believers of today

Peace be on you.

1- All major religions started when moral corruption was wide spread and true understanding and worship of God and Human Rights were forgotten.

2- A noble person brought the divine message and carried it alone. He was selfless and good person.

3- He talked against the established evils and mafias.

4- He predicted his success in the beginning and was mocked on this claim.

5- Within some time, he was proved true, the God, he presented helped him, and he prevailed against all odds.

6- Slowly, his message spread because of its own built-in power. People found individual, family and societal peace in it.

7- As time passed, struggle with self, to keep it afloat spiritually and morally, diminished, selves started to sink, and dormant mafia hijacked religions because they saw people gather easily if name of religion is used.

8- Corruption spreads again. It is corruption which is advertised and feel need to get spread, not the 'religion-in-pure-and-original-form'.

9- Observing a religion in its very corrupt form of late times and raising an argument against the phenomenon of religion is common error.
 
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Nakosis

Non-Binary Physicalist
Premium Member
Nearly all religions wish for everyone to follow them. Because of this, there are crusades, and arguments for the religion.

You might say it is for their own good, but wouldn't it be better if they discovered that themselves? If it's so true, why won't science in time prove it? Until then, there is no need to force people into your religion. Anyone who does not believe will be fighting against science and facts, instead of the believers of today

I suppose like you feel "science" is truth and others should accept it as so. Others who don't accept your truth you don't trust. Same truth same goals, Different truth different goals.

You feel threaten by their goals. They feel threatened by yours. So to deal with the threat, imagined or real, people try to alter the thinking of others.

Feel threatened enough, you get to duke it out.

Probably better to show that your thinking is not a threat to their thinking. Everyone gets along better.
 

Triumphant_Loser

Libertarian Egalitarian
Nearly all religions wish for everyone to follow them. Because of this, there are crusades, and arguments for the religion.

You might say it is for their own good, but wouldn't it be better if they discovered that themselves? If it's so true, why won't science in time prove it? Until then, there is no need to force people into your religion. Anyone who does not believe will be fighting against science and facts, instead of the believers of today

Religious proselytizing is actually not that common in most religions, just the Abrahamic religions where if you don't follow their religion, there is the threat of eternal torture by their god. So... in all honesty... they do it because they think that they are doing you a favor. Personally, I do not believe in a hell of any sorts, so I am not really saving anybody by trying to convert them, so why should I bother?
 

Hawkins

Well-Known Member
Only Christianity urges for a spreading. Other religions feel threatened and are pressed to spread. That's why there's no reason for other religions to spread as their gods didn't even ask for spreading.

Christianity demands to spread because Gospel = good news. It is a good news of how God brings salvation to humans. Humans bear the responsibility of keeping each other informed of the good news to make a choice. To put it another way, religions ultimately portray an afterlife which concerns everyone. If it's true and important (should be important if it's true), the gods of the religions should urge for followers. Or else the gods, who are supposed to know clearly, either have no love or they don't care about humans. So if one of these religions is a truth, Christianity bears a good chance to be that one. It's because the Christianity God cares and thus urged for the spreading of the message.
 
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Glaurung

Denizen of Niflheim
Christianity and Islam are somewhat unique in that they claim to be universal revelations intended for all of humanity. As such adherents are morally obligated to spread the revelation.

Most other religions (especially in the ancient world) were/are either cultural or ethnic entities, or agricultural cults merely about pleasing the forces of nature for good crops. (I know I'm being slightly simplistic here) and as such had no real concept of proselytism.
 
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