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"Why is the Bible so Poorly Written?"

lostwanderingsoul

Well-Known Member
Maybe the question is not why is the Bible poorly written but why is the Bible poorly understood. People think their limited human minds can fully understand everything about God but they can't. Most people have trouble understanding Shakespeare which was written a few hundred years ago in English. How can they expect to fully understand something written thousands of years ago and translated several times into different languages?
 

Skwim

Veteran Member
I am willing to assume.....anyone who dealt with the scripture would bear in mind.....
this represents the Word of God

and most of what I have read seems to hold that level of regard

there are some tales and prose that seem out of place
some points of miracle and intent are difficult to place in belief

the book may not be all it should have been
but I see no great harm in it

shall we do a thread?...the Harm dealt by Scripture
If the splintering of a religion ("over 40,000 denominations and non-denominations") because of the poor expression of its message isn't such a good thing, then I would think that could be considered harmful.
 

Akivah

Well-Known Member
When the article below first appeared it generated a response by Christians one website described as:
"Right-wing Christians have a white hot emotional meltdown after commentator suggests the Bible is written poorly"
Oh yeah, the Christian bible is a mess. We've known that since its inception. Heck even Christians have known it is a mess. Father Origen around the year 250 wrote that the Christian bible was full of forgeries.
 

2ndpillar

Well-Known Member
Oh yeah, the Christian bible is a mess. We've known that since its inception. Heck even Christians have known it is a mess. Father Origen around the year 250 wrote that the Christian bible was full of forgeries.

The canon of the current "Christian" NT was compiled in 367 A.D at the time of the "Christian" pagan festival of Easter, such as the feast of Astarte, by the Roman bishop of Alexandria, of the church of the "daughter of Babylon" (Zechariah 2:7).
 

Kenny

Face to face with my Father
Premium Member
If the splintering of a religion ("over 40,000 denominations and non-denominations") because of the poor expression of its message isn't such a good thing, then I would think that could be considered harmful.
That's like saying... "A Body should be just one piece... like a nose" but since there are so many parts, it must be harmful.
 

Skwim

Veteran Member
That's like saying... "A Body should be just one piece... like a nose" but since there are so many parts, it must be harmful.

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It's nothing like that.

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Hockeycowboy

Witness for Jehovah
Premium Member

When the article below first appeared it generated a response by Christians one website described as:
"Right-wing Christians have a white hot emotional meltdown after commentator suggests the Bible is written poorly"

Here, in part, is that article.

"Millions of evangelicals and other Christian fundamentalists believe that the Bible was dictated by God to men who acted essentially as human transcriptionists. If that were the case, one would have to conclude that God is a terrible writer. Many passages in the Bible would get kicked back by any competent editor or writing professor, kicked back with a lot of red ink—often more red than black.

Mixed messages, repetition, bad fact-checking, awkward constructions, inconsistent voice, weak character development, boring tangents, contradictions, passages where nobody can tell what the heck the writer meant to convey. This doesn’t sound like a book that was dictated by a deity.

A well-written book should be clear and concise, with all factual statements accurate and characters neither two-dimensional nor plagued with multiple personality disorder—unless they actually are. A book written by a god should be some of the best writing ever produced. It should beat Shakespeare on enduring relevance, Stephen Hawking on scientific accuracy, Pablo Neruda on poetry, Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn on ethical coherence, and Maya Angelou on sheer lucid beauty—just to name a few.

Why does the Bible so fail to meet this mark? One obvious answer, of course, is that neither the Bible nor any derivative work like the Quran or Book of Mormon was actually dictated by the Christian god or other celestial messengers. We humans may yearn for advice that is “god-breathed,” but in reality, our sacred texts were written by fallible human beings, who try as they might, fell short of perfection in the ways we all do.

But why is the Bible so badly written? Falling short of perfection is one thing, but the Bible has been the subject of literally thousands of follow-on books by people who were genuinely trying to figure out what it means. Despite best efforts, their conclusions don’t converge, which is one reason Christianity has fragmented into over 40,000 denominations and non-denominations.

Here are just a few of the reasons for this tangled web of disagreements and the generally terrible quality of much biblical writing (with some notable exceptions) by literary standards. [most of the following reasons have been shortened]

Too Many Cooks
Far from being a single unified whole, the Bible is actually a collection of texts or text fragments from many authors. We don’t know the number of writers precisely, and—despite the ancient traditions that assigned authorship to famous people such as Moses, Matthew, Mark, Luke and John—we don’t know who most of them were. We do know that the men who inscribed the biblical texts had widely different language skills, cultural and technological surroundings, worldviews and supernatural beliefs, along with varying objectives.

Forgery and Counter-Forgery
Best-selling Bible scholar Bart Ehrman has written a whole book about forgery in the New Testament, texts written under the names of famous men to make the writings more credible. This practice was so common among early Christians that nearly half of the books of the New Testament make false authorship claims, while others were assigned famous names after the fact. When books claiming to be written by one person were actually written by several, each seeking to elevate his own point of view, we shouldn’t be surprised if the writing styles clash or they espouse contradictory attitudes.

Histories, Poetries, None-of-These
Christians may treat the Bible as a unified book of divine guidance, but in reality it is a mix of different genres: ancient myths, songs of worship, rule books, poetry, propaganda, gospels (yes, this was a common literary genre), coded political commentary, and mysticism, to name just a few. Translators and church leaders down through the centuries haven’t always known which of these they were reading. Modern comedians sometimes make a living by deliberately garbling genres—for example, by taking statements literally when they are meant figuratively—or distorting things someone else has written or said. Whether they realize it or not, biblical literalists in the pulpit sometimes make a living doing the same thing.

Lost in Translation
The books of the Bible were originally written in Hebrew, Aramaic, and Greek, though not in the modern versions of these languages. (Think of trying to read Chaucer’s Middle English.) When Roman Catholic Christianity ascended, church leaders embraced the Hebrew Bible and translated it into then-modern Latin, calling it the Old Testament. They also translated texts from early Jesus-worshipers and voted on which to include in their canon of scripture. These became the New Testament. Ironically, some New Testament writers themselves had already quoted bad translations of Old Testament scriptures. These multi-layered imperfect translations inspired key doctrines of the Christian faith, the most famous being the Virgin Birth.

Inside Baseball
A lot changes in 2,000 years. As we read the Bible through modern eyes, it helps to remember that we’re getting a glimpse, however imperfectly translated, of the urgent concerns of our Iron Age ancestors.

It’s Not About You
The Gospel According to Matthew (not actually authored by Matthew) was written for an audience of Jews. The author was a recruiter for the ancient equivalent of Jews for Jesus. That is why, in the Matthew account, the Last Supper is timed as a Passover meal. By contrast, the Gospel According to John was written to persuade pagan Roman prospects, so the author timed the events differently. This is just one of many explicit contradictions between the four Gospel accounts of Jesus’s death and resurrection.

The Pig Collection
My friend Sandra had a collection of decorative pigs that started out small. As family and friends learned about it, the collection grew to the point that it began taking over the house. Birthdays, Christmas, vacations, thrift stores…when people saw a pig, they thought of Sandra. Some of the pigs were delightful; others, not so much. Finally, the move to a new house opened an opportunity to do some culling.

The texts of the Bible are a bit of a pig collection. Like Sandra’s pigs, they reflect a wide variety of styles, raw material and artistic vision. From creation stories to Easter stories to the book of Revelation, old collectibles got handed down and inspired new, and folks who gathered this type of material bundled them together into a single collection.
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A good culling might do a lot to improve things. Imagine a version of the Bible containing only that which has enduring beauty or usefulness. Unfortunately, the collection in the Bible has been bound together for so long that Christian authorities (with a few exceptions) don’t trust themselves to unbind it. Maybe the thought of deciding what goes and stays feels overwhelming or even dangerous. Or maybe, deep down, Bible-believing evangelicals and other fundamentalists suspect that if they started culling, there wouldn’t be a whole lot left. So, they keep it all, in the process binding themselves to the worldview and very human imperfections of our Iron Age ancestors.

And that’s what makes the Good Book so very bad.
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So, whatdoyathink? Aside from whatever value you may ascribe to the Bible, is it poorly written or not?

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There are parts, such as the genealogies, that seem to drag on but....
No, just misunderstood. No one can fully understand it on their own, anyways. Jesus said as much, at Luke 10:21.



The only conclusion i can reach is that the author of that article isn't one to rely on the Father. Or at least associate with those who do and learn from them.
 

Jeremiah Ames

Well-Known Member
Both are books. Both give knowledge. The Bible is a textbook. What is it made up of, dog manure?

How can it be the word spoken by God, when no man has heard God? John 5:37

The Gospel is the Word from God. The only people who said to teach the Bible was the catholic religion who created it.
Ok.
You’re the boss.:confused:
 

Father Heathen

Veteran Member
That's like saying... "A Body should be just one piece... like a nose" but since there are so many parts, it must be harmful.

The parts of a body work together in sync. Denominations directly contradict and conflict with each other because they cannot agree what "the truth" is when it comes to the "authority" of the bible. If it were clear, there would be no confusion or multiple interpretations. Thus, it's a poorly written book. Thankfully, the goofy fables of ancient goat herders don't actually represent or reflect upon any actual god.
 

Skwim

Veteran Member
The g is as small in your post as your powers.
Hey, I'm just putting the god of Abraham on the same shelf as so many of the other gods. No higher, no lower. Want me to put him on a higher shelf where the decent Gods sit, then you have your work cut out for yourself. But as it stands any god who continues to create evil, kills countless innocent people, and lets millions of people suffer, all the while demanding love, adoration, praise, and worship, keeps him just where he is, on the Small "g" Shelf.

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Shaul

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
If the Bible is so poorly written then why is it the all time best selling book?
 
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