ImmortalFlame
Woke gremlin
Nope, although I have seen a few lectures about him and once lived with a philosophy student who outlined, in brief, some of his basic ideas.
Have you ever read any Niels Bohr?
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Why is Water Wet?
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Nope, although I have seen a few lectures about him and once lived with a philosophy student who outlined, in brief, some of his basic ideas.
Have you ever read any Niels Bohr?
CynthiaCypher
Well-Known Member
Some stuff. But I don't think you are getting Nietzsche. He is saying that science cannot answer ultimate questions about the physical universe such as "where did it all come from", but science is unable to answer ultimate question regarding meaning like "what does it all mean".
ImmortalFlame
Woke gremlin
And I disagree with him. Not because I think it can or will, but because I think it's meaningless to assume that it cannot ever possibly answer such questions. What is the justification for his assertion?
Gordian Knot
Being Deviant IS My Art.
And your microwave cannot wash your clothes either. Do you blame the microwave for being unable to do what it was never meant to do?
So it is with science. It was never intended to answer questions like 'what does it all mean'. To accuse a discipline of not being able to do what it never was meant to do is silly.
CynthiaCypher
Well-Known Member
Of course. And it is even sillier to say that discipline can do things it is not meant to do.
Gordian Knot
Being Deviant IS My Art.
Agreed. So why are you doing it????
CynthiaCypher
Well-Known Member
Am I?
Gordian Knot
Being Deviant IS My Art.
Of course you are. You know that. Which is fine. Nothing wrong with stirring the pot. Far as I can tell, though, that is all you do? From time to time how about a post expressing your personal views, opinions, truths. Now that would be of interest to me.
paarsurrey
Veteran Member
I think it is just a human feeling or just a perception of our brain.
Ouroboros
Coincidentia oppositorum
Another question that would be interesting to get an explanation to is why "dry water" feels like sand?
Yes. It exists. It's a powdered liquid invented a few years back:
Scientists create 'dry water' - Telegraph
Yes. It exists. It's a powdered liquid invented a few years back:
Scientists create 'dry water' - Telegraph
paarsurrey
Veteran Member
Science cannot and dose not answer such questions. It is a poetic question; concerns with feelings , perceptions and sentiments.
As scientists; a special field; they have their own secular languages for every branch of knowledge that best suits to them and sometimes every branch has separate dictionary of its terms .
They drift away from the ordinary man and his terms; they even drift away from the common life.
In a sense they are like inhabitants of seminaries, cut off from the general life.
This is just what I think; others must differ with me.
Regards
What makes you think that feelings, perceptions and sentiments are not amenable to scientific investigation?
Ciao
- viole
paarsurrey
Veteran Member
Then please answer the question quoting from a peer reviewed article in a journal of science or a text-book of science.
Regards
ImmortalFlame
Woke gremlin
I don't think they're saying science has answered it, just that there is no reason to assume that it couldn't at some point; or that such questions are intrinsically unavailable to a scientific answer.
I can't, yet.
I m not saying that these things are currently explained by science. The technology is not there yet.
I am asking what makes them, in principle, not amenable to scientific inquiry.
After all they all happen in brains, and brains look pretty physical to me. For starters, perception, feelings and sentiments can be influenced by physical things like chemicals and degeneration.
What is the problem? You don't like to see evidence of love on a brain scan?
Ciao
- viole
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CynthiaCypher
Well-Known Member
Ok how about you give us a critical analysis of Shakespeare's Titus Andronicus using particle physics.
Go for it.
ImmortalFlame
Woke gremlin
I think you apparently missed the first half of their post.
Also, ridiculous straw man.
I am not sure that particle physics is the right tool.
I would probably check enhanced brain activity in the brain subsystems responsible for emotional feelings or other regions responsible for higher level cognition.
Of course, the sample under analysis should not include students forced to read it. That might pollute the results with spurious activations of the brain circuitry responsible for boredom
Ciao
- viole
CynthiaCypher
Well-Known Member
That is not a strawman.