Why Is Your Religion The Right One

[EnhancedSpirit]

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The skins cells have a very lazy existance. They lay around for a few years waiting for their turn to be on top of the stack. Then when they reach the top, they have one day to experience the world. Just ONE DAY then they die and fall off the body.​

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The heart cells, on the other hand, start working before you were even born. And they continue to work, day and night ( no vacations or sick leave) until the day you die. ​

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Both have very important roles to play. The heart cells are proud to keep the body alive, and the skin cells are proud to protect the body. ​

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Now what if the skin cells tried to convince the heart cells that their God was wrong for making them work and suffer their whole lives. The skin cells believe that their way is the right way. ​

The WHOLE body would die if the Heart Cells chose to follow the path of the skin cells. But they have a common thread. They were once all the same (as stem cells), but they evolved into something else. But their DNA is the same, as with every cell in the body.​

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To the Jews- you are right To the Christians- you are right​

To the Islam- you are right To the Buddhist- you are right​

To the Taoist- you are right To the Wicca- you are right​

AND YOU ARE ALL MISTAKEN.​

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But there is no right or wrong- IT JUST IS ! ! ! ​

 

[Druidus]

Very good. Exactly what I thought I was going to post before I came into the thread.

There is no right or wrong, all are variants of the truth.

Frubals to you.

 

[jewscout]

Thank you for that profound piece of knowledge.......that i already believed...:areyoucra

 

[Nimueway]

If all roads potentially lead to "rome"! I really liked that analogy. Logically, if there are several paths, then each path is a valid as the other, it is merely a matter of personal taste as to which road you hop onto to get you there.

For example, take world geography for a concrete example. Someone coming from the south, west, east, and north will all take different paths and eventually make their way to Rome. Each path will likely be seperate, and distinct, it's own sites to offer, but they all did eventually lead to Rome. Yet, what of the traveler that detours and crosses paths with another traveler, the amount of wisdom they could likely teach each other of their personal journeys in likelyhood would enrich their experience even more, create even more wonders to be experienced, rather than cause seperation and disdain...

Or it logically seems it should...anyhow.

When did we, humanity I mean, start limiting the scope and idea of god? And truly has it been in the benefit of humankind, or to the detriment of our understanding of one another? If religion doesn't do it's part to unite us, but rather serves only to seperate our understanding of one another further, then logically we have to ask ourselves why we hold onto it.

 

[dan]

Oh, geez. If one road heads west and another straight up and another around in circles they do not all arrive at Rome. If there is no absolute truth then there is no God. God is not one of confusion and division. Saying everyone is right and everyone is also wrong is a logical fallacy. It is mere semantic masturbation.

 

[jewscout]

Oh, geez. If one road heads west and another straight up and another around in circles they do not all arrive at Rome. If there is no absolute truth then there is no God. God is not one of confusion and division. Saying everyone is right and everyone is also wrong is a logical fallacy. It is mere semantic masturbation.

well until some Divine force comes down and without a shadow of a doubt reveals to all of humanity what is the "right" path that makes every path both right and wrong at the same time...

For all i know all the atheists of the world could be right and i'm just wasting my time...
At the same time they could all be wrong...or we both could be and someone else right...

We don't "know"...we can only "believe"...

 

[dan]

well until some Divine force comes down and without a shadow of a doubt reveals to all of humanity what is the "right" path that makes every path both right and wrong at the same time...

For all i know all the atheists of the world could be right and i'm just wasting my time...
At the same time they could all be wrong...or we both could be and someone else right...

We don't "know"...we can only "believe"...

A divine force has done exactly that, but most people ignore it, as they did when Christ came, when Moses preached, when Paul prosyletized, when Samuel the Lamanite cried repentance and every time every other prophet ever opened their mouth.

 

[Lightkeeper]

Oh, geez. If one road heads west and another straight up and another around in circles they do not all arrive at Rome. If there is no absolute truth then there is no God. God is not one of confusion and division. Saying everyone is right and everyone is also wrong is a logical fallacy. It is mere semantic masturbation.

Why do we have to arrive in Rome? Maybe each person has their own absolute truth and everyone is right. That wouldn't necessarily mean there is no God.

 

[dan]

Pyrrhonism is about the oldest form of pessimism that has ever blighted our existence. Saying it cannot be known is just another form of unbelief. I know that God lives. I know it as well as you know you exist. I do not believe, I know.

And, Lightkeeper, that's exactly what that means.

 

[jewscout]

Pyrrhonism is about the oldest form of pessimism that has ever blighted our existence. Saying it cannot be known is just another form of unbelief. I know that God lives. I know it as well as you know you exist. I do not believe, I know.

you know?

Where's your irrifutable evidence?

 

[precept]

:banghead3 ​

The skins cells have a very lazy existance. They lay around for a few years waiting for their turn to be on top of the stack. Then when they reach the top, they have one day to experience the world. Just ONE DAY then they die and fall off the body.​

​

The heart cells, on the other hand, start working before you were even born. And they continue to work, day and night ( no vacations or sick leave) until the day you die. ​

​

Both have very important roles to play. The heart cells are proud to keep the body alive, and the skin cells are proud to protect the body. ​

​

Now what if the skin cells tried to convince the heart cells that their God was wrong for making them work and suffer their whole lives. The skin cells believe that their way is the right way. ​

The WHOLE body would die if the Heart Cells chose to follow the path of the skin cells. But they have a common thread. They were once all the same (as stem cells), but they evolved into something else. But their DNA is the same, as with every cell in the body.​

​

To the Jews- you are right To the Christians- you are right​

To the Islam- you are right To the Buddhist- you are right​

To the Taoist- you are right To the Wicca- you are right​

AND YOU ARE ALL MISTAKEN.​

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But there is no right or wrong- IT JUST IS ! ! ! ​

" It just is" this: The DNA determined who were going to be "skin cells" and who were going to be "heart cells" generations of posterity probably in the thousands of generations before YOU and your generation were even thought of! And the DNA was programmed to so do when God made the first human.

Consequently; neither the "skin cells" nor the "heart cells", nor even the DNA matter in the end. "IT JUST IS" "The PROGRAMMER" "THE GREAT GOD AND CREATOR"...and whatever he chooses us to do; so should be our desire.

He created us for His GLORY..Isaiah 43:7...He created us to worship Him.Psalm 96:9...He did not create religions; We humans did that because we have misplaced to our own devious ends, the worship desire He created within us....

Consequently each human has a responsibility to "search the scriptures of God"-His word; in order to discover for ourselves, how God desires to be worshipped. Only then will true worship be discovered.[/B/
And when discovered; it becomes a personal one to one worship experience with our Great God and Father....The way He intended it in the first place!!


precept

 

[EnhancedSpirit]

Your statement suggests that right and wrong can coexist, but this is an example of subjectivity; it is also a case of morality, a branch of philosophy with which truth and error have nothing to do. It is only right inside the head of each observer. Right and wrong cannot coexist absolutely, only in subjective capacitites, and objectivity is the sphere from which I make my statement. If an item is proven to be false it cannot then be proven to be true, regardless of anyone's opinion on the morality of it. The truthfullness of any religion is not a matter of right and wrong, it is a matter of true or false.

Right and wrong is subjective and therefore can co-exist in reality. However, reality and Truth are not the same. True and false is not the same as right or wrong. One religion says it's wrong to go to church barefooted, while another religion worships without shoes.
So are you suppossed to wear shoes or not, does it matter, NO? Because being barefooted is not 'right' or 'wrong' is just IS being barefooted.

 

[dan]

Right and wrong is subjective and therefore can co-exist in reality. However, reality and Truth are not the same. True and false is not the same as right or wrong.

Which is the statement I was making. A religion cannot be both false and true, which is what this thread tries to pawn off.

 

[dan]

you know?

Where's your irrifutable evidence?

I have received innumerable testimonies of the existence of God, and none against His existence accept for the sophmoric ramblings of biased men. God has shown Himself to me in many ways, both concrete and abstract. I cannot show you the things I have seen, but I can show you how to get there, if you were actually interested in knowing.

 

[dan]

yes but for the purposes of my little road analogy, by KNOW i dont mean inner knowlegde. I mean OUTER knowledge...the kind that can be shared via a medium other than words.

Do you believe in the Holy Ghost?

 

[EnhancedSpirit]

I did not say that all religions were both true and false. I said they were all right. And wrong. Every religion leads to the divinity. We cannot say 'they are wrong' and 'we are right'. That would be like the heart telling the eyes they are wrong for seeing. We do not know anothers path and therefore cannot judge whether they are right or wrong. We can only decide what is right or wrong for ourselves.

 

[jewscout]

I have received innumerable testimonies of the existence of God, and none against His existence accept for the sophmoric ramblings of biased men. God has shown Himself to me in many ways, both concrete and abstract. I cannot show you the things I have seen, but I can show you how to get there, if you were actually interested in knowing.

So how would i get there?

 

[Feathers in Hair]

An interesting thread, although I would point out that a few of the religions mentioned do not believe that theirs is the only path to understanding. Wicca, for instance.

 

[dan]

I'm not saying that at all. What I'm saying is that life is about determining which is true and which is false in the first place. Our job is to stay objective and open-minded, and not allow emotion or pre-concieved ideas to give us a concious or subconcious bias against anyone or thier ideas.

So what's objective about saying, "OK we're all right and no one is wrong"?

 

[The Black Whirlwind]

someone on RF had this quote, and it went something like this, "Paths may go in different directions, but when they get to the top of the mountain they all see the smae moon