Why liberalism can and has been a disease.

[Twilight Hue]

San Francisco is one of those unique cities where just about every policy of liberalism has been put into practical real world use without any conservative policy in play.

This is the real world result. The video is about 6 months old.

Conservatism isn't perfect either, maybe I'll make a thread on that , but for now, from what I see here, liberalism is clearly far far worse. I will never ever support leftist and liberal policies that can bring about something like this.

Keep going left, and more left, and you just might eventually have a nation that looks like San Francisco with a mayor that has no real sense of humanity in their own backyard. Their minds are too much on character assassination and politicking between themselves. I don't want what is going on in San Francisco to ever happen to our entire country.

San Francisco is a pretty frightening precursor enough as it is. It's a shame , because it really at one time was a gorgeous and beautiful city. Now look at what it's turned into.

Maybe it's a time for a new party to emerge where a proper balance of liberalism and conservatism rules the day. Not the extreme.

 

[Quetzal]

This thread has no other purpose than to divide and troll the forums.

 

[Twilight Hue]

This thread has no other purpose than to divide and troll the forums.

A troll is stating something that isn't true.

Tell me that isn't going on in San Francisco right now and that Democrats are not in charge.

Bottom line is the truth hurts.

 

[ImmortalFlame]

Isn't this by the idiot who claims that soy has a demonstrated effect on "emasculating men" and yet sells and uses a nootropic pill whose main ingredient is soy?

Maybe stop taking the opinions of these kinds of loons as facts and making sweeping, baseless generalisations about a broad spectrum of political and social beliefs, or making similar generalisations based on the outcomes of policies in one city in one state of one country and try looking at, y'know, the global history. Also, "left" isn't the opposite or alternative to "capitalist".

This thread doesn't deserve any further response or acknowledgement.

 

[Audie]

Taipei is a big city in a democratic nation,
though not necessarily a liberal one in an
American sense. Not all of us are sure that
the American model is one to follow, in anything.

(Some years ago, when "gays in the military"
was a topic in the US, an American reporter asked
what they do about gays in the military in
Taiwan. The response: "Nothing".)

ANYWAY, in Taipei, you can go about all day, looking
for a bum. You will not find one. Everybody you see
will be going about their business in a sensible way.

I dont propose to know why SF and LA are such
sad places, but I do know from looking about in
the world that it does not have to be that way.

 

[metis]

What's so funny in the context of the OP is that democracy and capitalism were, and actually still to an extent, "liberal" concepts, but with Trump acting more like an autocrat and engaging in "crony capitalism" (the real "swamp") he betrays both.

 

[icehorse]

San Francisco is one of those unique cities where just about every policy of liberalism has been put into practical real world use without any conservative policy in play.

SF has some real problems.

The video is talking more about progressivism than liberalism. I think that more specific and precise labels are important in such discussions. For example, we're not going to get anywhere if we lazily conflate liberalism with progressivism.

And finally, while I also see extremism on the left that troubles me, if we're going to combat it, we have to connect the dots more tightly than is done in this video. The causal linkages aren't very strong.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

A troll is stating something that isn't true.

Tell me that isn't going on in San Francisco right now and that Democrats are not in charge.

Bottom line is the truth hurts.

California as a whole is a blue state, would have one of the world's top economies if it were an independent nation, and I've never had it so easy as I do now. Lots of jobs, good pay, and unlike the Conservative Indiana people here tend to mind their own business.

 

[Earthling]

San Francisco is one of those unique cities where just about every policy of liberalism has been put into practical real world use without any conservative policy in play.

This is the real world result. The video is about 6 months old.

Conservatism isn't perfect either, maybe I'll make a thread on that , but for now, from what I see here, liberalism is clearly far far worse. I will never ever support leftist and liberal policies that can bring about something like this.

Keep going left, and more left, and you just might eventually have a nation that looks like San Francisco with a mayor that has no real sense of humanity in their own backyard. Their minds are too much on character assassination and politicking between themselves. I don't want what is going on in San Francisco to ever happen to our entire country.

San Francisco is a pretty frightening precursor enough as it is. It's a shame , because it really at one time was a gorgeous and beautiful city. Now look at what it's turned into.

Maybe it's a time for a new party to emerge where a proper balance of liberalism and conservatism rules the day. Not the extreme.

Well, again, Jordan Peterson raises an interesting point. The radical right has been tested in that it has drawn a line which they must not cross. The radical left doesn't seem capable of establishing such a line.

I tell you, with seeing what the streets are like there along with what academia, the college campuses are like with radical left (out of) control . . . man! That's where we're headed. And they don't seem to have, or at least have abandoned completely all capacity for logical thought. I'm apolitical. Not right or left or the middle or Democrat or Republican, but from the outside looking in these people look like madness.

 

[Earthling]

California as a whole is a blue state, would have one of the world's top economies if it were an independent nation, and I've never had it so easy as I do now. Lots of jobs, good pay, and unlike the Conservative Indiana people here tend to mind their own business.

Just watch out where you step, huh?

 

[Revoltingest]

This thread has no other purpose than to divide and troll the forums.

Isn't that the purpose of RF?

 

[Audie]

What's so funny in the context of the OP is that democracy and capitalism were, and actually still to an extent, "liberal" concepts, but with Trump acting more like an autocrat and engaging in "crony capitalism" (the real "swamp") he betrays both.

Is the crony capitalism (corruption) an opinion, or
a demonstrable fact?

 

[Cooky]

San Francisco is one of those unique cities where just about every policy of liberalism has been put into practical real world use without any conservative policy in play.

This is the real world result. The video is about 6 months old.

Conservatism isn't perfect either, maybe I'll make a thread on that , but for now, from what I see here, liberalism is clearly far far worse. I will never ever support leftist and liberal policies that can bring about something like this.

Keep going left, and more left, and you just might eventually have a nation that looks like San Francisco with a mayor that has no real sense of humanity in their own backyard. Their minds are too much on character assassination and politicking between themselves. I don't want what is going on in San Francisco to ever happen to our entire country.

San Francisco is a pretty frightening precursor enough as it is. It's a shame , because it really at one time was a gorgeous and beautiful city. Now look at what it's turned into.

Maybe it's a time for a new party to emerge where a proper balance of liberalism and conservatism rules the day. Not the extreme.

I was listening to a radical liberal radio station the other day driving home and I was truly and honestly dumbfounded by the lack of basic intelligence that I heard. I swear to God, they forgot the topics they were discussing and couldn't even answer each other -the host had to ask his guest if they had anything more to ad because he couldn't think of anything to say.

I felt bad for them.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Just watch out where you step, huh?

Watch for what? I'm much closer to LA than San Fransisco.

 

[Audie]

California as a whole is a blue state, would have one of the world's top economies if it were an independent nation, and I've never had it so easy as I do now. Lots of jobs, good pay, and unlike the Conservative Indiana people here tend to mind their own business.

Would not a comparison to Texas be a lot more
realistic?

 

[Earthling]

This thread has no other purpose than to divide and troll the forums.

What???! No it doesn't. And even if it did that would be the fault of the forum. It's on subject.

 

[Earthling]

Watch for what? I'm much closer to LA than San Fransisco.

You don't see much of what the video shows in San Francisco? If so, that's good.

 

[Twilight Hue]

Isn't this by the idiot who claims that soy has a demonstrated effect on "emasculating men" and yet sells and uses a nootropic pill whose main ingredient is soy?

Maybe stop taking the opinions of these kinds of loons as facts and making sweeping, baseless generalisations about a broad spectrum of political and social beliefs, or making similar generalisations based on the outcomes of policies in one city in one state of one country and try looking at, y'know, the global history. Also, "left" isn't the opposite or alternative to "capitalist".

This thread doesn't deserve any further response or acknowledgement.

Suit yourself. It doesn't diminish the fact that San Francisco is still there and it's run solely by Democrat liberals.

 

[osgart]

I consider myself progressive and i do NOT support any of what the video mentioned.

 

[Earthling]

Isn't this by the idiot who claims that soy has a demonstrated effect on "emasculating men" and yet sells and uses a nootropic pill whose main ingredient is soy?

Maybe stop taking the opinions of these kinds of loons as facts and making sweeping, baseless generalisations about a broad spectrum of political and social beliefs, or making similar generalisations based on the outcomes of policies in one city in one state of one country and try looking at, y'know, the global history. Also, "left" isn't the opposite or alternative to "capitalist".

This thread doesn't deserve any further response or acknowledgement.

I love this. I see that the political discourse isn't much different than the religious. Ya' just can't help but appreciate the emotional futility in disrupting a thread to establish the insignificance of that very thread. It's like . . . even the most committed idiot would have to recognize there must be something to it.