Could you stop forcing Christian terms into non-Christian religions please? That would be great.
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why reject christianity
- Thread starter syo
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Im sure i provided the recognised definition, no mention of spirits, reality or anything else but god or gods.
Look, im atheist and have little doubt JC existed, just not as described in the Bible.
Unveiled Artist
Veteran Member
That doesnt make sense. The Buddha's teachings are common sense. You cant escape suffering, cause and affect, the need for solace, and getting rid of things that hinder your spiritual growth. You can see that without religion.
You cant see god not know him by instinct. You cant be saved whrn there is no inherit nature to be saved. Nature doesnt explsin you ALL people god when they see it.
Your god is alive via the faith of this who believe he exists. Explain how anyone should know god without being personally experienced in him.
Explain how god exist without metaphysics and the bible.
Aldrnari
Active Member
I can understand the concept of faith, and how it helps people, but the kind of faith that Christianity (at least, the Christianity I know) requires can lead to intellectual dishonesty.
This one book is right, and everything else that disagrees is not only wrong, but a manipulation from Satan to trick one into seperating themselves from god. This belief, from what I've seen, can lead to Xenophobic attitudes towards anyone who isn't Christian, or even someone who is from a different denomination.
It seems like the more someone distances themselves from the bible (such as someone who views the bible as god inspired, rather than as the infallible word of god), the more reasonable and open minded they become.
The happiest I've been in life is now, and all the years I've lived since leaving the Christian faith.
This one book is right, and everything else that disagrees is not only wrong, but a manipulation from Satan to trick one into seperating themselves from god. This belief, from what I've seen, can lead to Xenophobic attitudes towards anyone who isn't Christian, or even someone who is from a different denomination.
It seems like the more someone distances themselves from the bible (such as someone who views the bible as god inspired, rather than as the infallible word of god), the more reasonable and open minded they become.
The happiest I've been in life is now, and all the years I've lived since leaving the Christian faith.
socharlie
Active Member
do you really understand your religion?
did Nachmanides write for literal level, how much of Zohar do you understand?
syo
Well-Known Member
it's just a thought.
socharlie
Active Member
I used to be atheist...
socharlie
Active Member
do you know what "faith" means? not in English but in Geek as people then understood it? that meaning explains relationship between humans and God.
Laypeople don't study the Zohar by themselves. Kabbalah is no small matter.
Of course I understand my religion. Please do not take this patronising tone with me.
lostwanderingsoul
Well-Known Member
You know, you can look at it another way. Jesus said that God calls those who He wants. So people who do not believe have not rejected God but God has rejected them.
Aldrnari
Active Member
I wonder what I could have done that would make him want to reject me when I sought him with all my heart? What have I done that warrants eternal destruction?
That, I would think, is a later and separate question: what should we expect from a God that does not want to be perceived by many or most people?
socharlie
Active Member
so, you understand certain level of your religion, there is a greater field of knowledge that can be known, do you know what is on other end of that field? I do not completely understand Zohar or Nachmanides...I just keep digging relying in my intuition. I have no intention to patronize you. I hope you just keep digging too...
There are people who study Kabbalah for years, 30 years or more, and still need to study. It's not all about intuition. You just appear to be using what is a standard Jewish Kabbalistic text for your own, non-Jewish views.
There is always more than can be known within Judaism, which is part of the beauty of it. One never stops learning.
Judaism is not my religion.
socharlie
Active Member
I tell you and you do not have to take my word for it - there on higher level of knowledge Christianity, Judaism, and many other religion merge to in that point of God's Spark.
37The plan seemed good to Pharaoh and to all his officials. 38So Pharaoh asked them, “Can we find anyone like this man, one in whom is the spirit of God ?”
39Then Pharaoh said to Joseph, “Since God has made all this known to you, there is no one so discerning and wise as you. 40You shall be in charge of my palace, and all my people are to submit to your orders. Only with respect to the throne will I be greater than you.”
Orbit
I'm a planet
Why reject Christianity?
Because it is based many times on a literal interpretation of the Bible. Science contradicts the content, as does common sense in many places.
Where it is not based on a literal interpretation one may ask on what basis is authority established? Who said these doctrines are true? Fallible, possibly delusional men?
And then there is an issue at the base of the matter: there is no objective evidence that God exists
Because it is based many times on a literal interpretation of the Bible. Science contradicts the content, as does common sense in many places.
Where it is not based on a literal interpretation one may ask on what basis is authority established? Who said these doctrines are true? Fallible, possibly delusional men?
And then there is an issue at the base of the matter: there is no objective evidence that God exists
Yes. Each person has a Spark of the Divine. It's the soul. Not a new concept in any religion.
- The theology doesn't make sense to me.
- No problem with the teachings and message, but they are not unique. Krishna and the Buddha had the same messages 1,100 and 500 years earlier, respectively.
- The crucifixion doesn't represent anything to me; if it's one of salvation, I don't believe in that.
- Krishna and the Buddha had the same messages 1,100 and 500 years earlier, respectively about love.
- Proof isn't a requirement in any religion, faith is. We have that in Hinduism and a thousand other religions.
- I don't believe we need saving.
socharlie
Active Member
God made all human souls the same way and they got the same information just adjusted to time and place. Problem is that we lost the 'technology' of processing that information...