I know you're not asking me, but I want to answer.
Empirical evidence...the impact God has on human behavior.
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Why the burden of proof lies on God ?
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Empirical evidence...the impact God has on human behavior.
Clizby Wampuscat
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What impact are you referring to?
Any behaviors associated with one's belief in God.
Trailblazer
Veteran Member
There is evidence that can be assessed.
Trailblazer
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I know what you mean but that is a slippery slope since you cannot tie God back to that behavior.
In other words, people could have that behavior for another reason.
Clizby Wampuscat
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How is a belief in god good evidence for god's existence?
Well, since you've already established what I can't do, who am I to argue?
Thanks for setting me straight.
How is building straw men productive in discourse?
I said behavior is evidence for God's existence, not belief in God.
I'll thank you to not misrepresent what I say moving forward.
Clizby Wampuscat
Well-Known Member
That is what happens in a conversation. Sometimes we misunderstand each other. Going straight to accusations is not helpful.
What I was getting at, if you are interested, is that behavior is a reaction to a belief. So a behavior that is a result of belief in god would not happen without the belief. So how is a behavior such as prayer good evidence for god's existence?
Trailblazer
Veteran Member
I did not say what you can or cannot do. I only said 'I think' it is a slippery slope.
Whatever convinces you that God exists is just as valid as what convinces me.
We humans all view things differently.
"Can be", not "is." If I love someone, my behavior toward them manifests as a result of that love. It has nothing to do with believing I love that person.
Would one be praying in the absence of God?
Sure you did...
How is that relevant?
On this we agree.
Agreed. The issue is the quality of the evidence and, even more, the quality of the inferences derived from it.
Clizby Wampuscat
Well-Known Member
A person can love god without that god being real if they believe that god exists.
Yes, if they believed god existed.
Unless God is a person, you are, again, misrepresenting my statement. Let's do our best not to let that happen a third time.
Why would one believe in God if one acknowledges the absence of God?
Trailblazer
Veteran Member
When I said "you cannot tie God back to that behavior" I meant you in a general sense,
I did not mean that YOU cannot tie God back to that behavior. YOU can do whatever you want to do.
How you interpret what I say is not my responsibility.
Only I know what I meant by what I said.
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But what you say is.
Perhaps it would be helpful to say what you mean.
Clizby Wampuscat
Well-Known Member
Like I said, I am trying to understand your position. That is what happens in a conversation, no ill intent is intended.
What kind of person is god?
Because they don't acknowledge the absence of god.
Do you think it is possible to believe something is true and it is actually false?
Trailblazer
Veteran Member
Last I checked I was not perfect, so I will make mistakes.
If I make them on a forum post, all I can do is try to correct those mistakes later.
Sometimes one word can make all the difference.
When I said "you cannot tie God back to that behavior" what I meant was "one cannot tie God back to that behavior."
That was my personal opinion, as is everything posted on this forum.
Why are you concluding God is a person?
Could it be they don't acknowledge your perceived absence of God?
Absolutely. That is actually a pillar of my religious philosophy.