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Why the DNC still cannot accept reality.

Koldo

Outstanding Member
Given the left wing horribly lost the election, I would say it's far from irrelevant. I'd recommend reflection on what voters really want , but of course that won't work with heads as thick as redwood tree stumps that just cannot learn life's lessons.

The Democratic party lost the election because it couldn't motivate people that voted for Biden to show up and vote for Harris. Even if those extra couple million votes that Trump got were all Biden voters (which is very unlikely), Harris would still have won.
 

bobhikes

Nondetermined
Premium Member
I have been watching people from the DNC soul search about their loss to Trump. Few seem to see how their failed policy platform was the main reason. Most want to blame everyone but themselves or their ideas, as though changing this or that tactic would have made the difference. I thought I would explain why? This line of reasoning came to me yesterday, when I saw a few Hollywood celebrities blaming new Trump supporters, because they thought these supporters were conned by Trump and were too ignorant to see the light of reason.

If you look at celebrities, like those acclaimed actors, their fame comes from reading lines and repeating these lines with style, to the camera. These lines are not even their own words, but rather, the lines and actions are a product of writers, producers, directors, supporting cast, scenery, music, etc. with all this propping up, making them the stars. This propping up, and the resultant fame and fortune, makes them ego-centric; inflated ego. They lose track of the fact, that they are the pinnacle of a production process, and that their accolades are partially fabricated by hype, advertising and emotions. This is the opposite of a self made person, yet the boost from the production process can make them like gods and royalty to their fans.

If you look the Broadway Theater, when a new production appears on Broadway, which is similar; live production, and the play gains success, the play expands and often appears on smaller venues, with minor actors, with the same lines and a similar production process repeated, to form local mini-me's of celebrity; local actor clones. This celebrity cloning explains the arrogant and lock step nature of the DNC. That one script is the key.

The ego-centricity created by writers and production staff, has made many unable to understand how they loss, since they were using a recipe for celebrity success. It had to be the audience, and not the play. Harris spent $1.5Billion on her production, but it was not well received at the theater, on opening day; Election Day.

When actors start to blame Trump supporters and not themselves or the play, it is because the ego is too inflated with a false sense of self that is not natural; based on merit, but is due to the production process that has cloned a sense of celebrity. They did not play for the audience; American people, but played for themself, and felt they shined like a star. The audience was too stupid to appreciate their craftsmanship. Other blame the production crew for not doing something that caused the audience to not see them shine, properly. But in reality, the play stunk and voters were being honest. Only the theatre group cannot see this. Some are now working on sequels, but few starting from scratch.
The reason they lost is far simpler.

1) She is a woman, the US still does not have the ability to support a Female president

2) She was hand picked by the current establishment she did not win the primary and probably would not have won the primary.

If the Democrats had run a primary without Joe Biden and selected a candidate that was male they most likely would of won.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
LOL When it's my celebrity it's different.
Hulk Hogan is definitely not an egomaniac.
:rolleyes:
Okay, I have a confession to make. I used to love the WWF. I knew that it was all fake, though I did not realize that before it became the billion dollar industry that it is today that they would take the show on the road and the matches that people would watch were repeated with same script from city to city. By the time a match occurred on Wrestlemania the actors involved had "wrestled" publicly quite a few times.

But in those days no adult thought as them as nothing more than entertainment. Hmm, in retrospect I may have been wrong about that. But today it appears that it fits in with the joyous self deception that has become the modern Republican Party.
 

Magic Man

Reaper of Conversation
My suspicion is Trump won based on a mix of misinformation on a variety of media; low-information voters lacking critical thinking; people voting from their wallet; and good ol' fashioned racism, xenophobia, and misogyny.

Also, people just not voting.
That pretty much sums it up. I've been following a lot of discussions where the question was posed to Trump voters of why they voted for him, and all of the answers conform to this. Even when it's not the typical rabid Trump fan, it still comes down to misinformation and/or low information.
 

Magic Man

Reaper of Conversation
I have been watching people from the DNC soul search about their loss to Trump. Few seem to see how their failed policy platform was the main reason.

I'm going to stop you right there. This had absolutely nothing to do with a policy platform, failed or otherwise.

1) Biden's policy platform (and therefore 98% Kamala's) has succeeded, especially economically. The number one biggest issue for people was the economy, and the president's policies have served us very well. We're ahead of most of the world economically.

2) People don't vote based on policy platform. They don't even take the time to inform themselves on that stuff. They mostly vote based on vibes and one-liners they hear. The reasons Kamala lost are mainly misinformation, low-information voters and then to a lesser extent xenophobia, misogyny and bigotry.
 

Magic Man

Reaper of Conversation
They lost because the democrats could not bring themselves to admit the policies of the last 4 years were harmful to the country and to the voters.
In other words the demoract party was taken over by the far left and the country is center left/right.
Exactly, thank you. This is excellent support for Guitar Cry's post. This is the level of misinformation and low information we're referring to. A lot of people actually believe the stuff you said, despite it having absolutely no basis in reality whatsoever.
 

sayak83

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member
I have been watching people from the DNC soul search about their loss to Trump. Few seem to see how their failed policy platform was the main reason. Most want to blame everyone but themselves or their ideas, as though changing this or that tactic would have made the difference. I thought I would explain why? This line of reasoning came to me yesterday, when I saw a few Hollywood celebrities blaming new Trump supporters, because they thought these supporters were conned by Trump and were too ignorant to see the light of reason.

If you look at celebrities, like those acclaimed actors, their fame comes from reading lines and repeating these lines with style, to the camera. These lines are not even their own words, but rather, the lines and actions are a product of writers, producers, directors, supporting cast, scenery, music, etc. with all this propping up, making them the stars. This propping up, and the resultant fame and fortune, makes them ego-centric; inflated ego. They lose track of the fact, that they are the pinnacle of a production process, and that their accolades are partially fabricated by hype, advertising and emotions. This is the opposite of a self made person, yet the boost from the production process can make them like gods and royalty to their fans.

If you look the Broadway Theater, when a new production appears on Broadway, which is similar; live production, and the play gains success, the play expands and often appears on smaller venues, with minor actors, with the same lines and a similar production process repeated, to form local mini-me's of celebrity; local actor clones. This celebrity cloning explains the arrogant and lock step nature of the DNC. That one script is the key.

The ego-centricity created by writers and production staff, has made many unable to understand how they loss, since they were using a recipe for celebrity success. It had to be the audience, and not the play. Harris spent $1.5Billion on her production, but it was not well received at the theater, on opening day; Election Day.

When actors start to blame Trump supporters and not themselves or the play, it is because the ego is too inflated with a false sense of self that is not natural; based on merit, but is due to the production process that has cloned a sense of celebrity. They did not play for the audience; American people, but played for themself, and felt they shined like a star. The audience was too stupid to appreciate their craftsmanship. Other blame the production crew for not doing something that caused the audience to not see them shine, properly. But in reality, the play stunk and voters were being honest. Only the theatre group cannot see this. Some are now working on sequels, but few starting from scratch.
I would prefer the DNC and what remains of old Republican party to stop trying to court Trump supporters just because there are many of them and they have, and will continue to win a few elections. What MAGA stands for is fundamentally immoral and founded on bias and ignorance and fear. Just because a herd of buffaloes are stampeding towards the sea, is one obligated to join them. Let them stampede into the sea...and pick up after them.
The story of the Pied Piper comes to mind. Also Brexit.
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
Even though it was likely a minority of voters, I have no doubt that racism, and the fear mongering that went with it, and misogyny changed enough minds to tilt the election to the Groper.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
The Democratic party lost the election because it couldn't motivate people that voted for Biden to show up and vote for Harris. Even if those extra couple million votes that Trump got were all Biden voters (which is very unlikely), Harris would still have won.
No. It was the abysmal incompetent waste of a candidate called Harris and the ignorance of the real priorities of American citizens , which is the economy and the border foremost.
 

Koldo

Outstanding Member
No. It was the abysmal incompetent waste of a candidate called Harris and the ignorance of the real priorities of American citizens , which is the economy and the border foremost.

Trump's economy proposals will rise inflation. Period. And the border is only a priority to the xenophobes.
 

Koldo

Outstanding Member
Apparently a lot of countries still practice economics 101. That includes the use of tariffs.

You didn't get it. There is a purpose in making use of tariffs which is legitimate. The issue here is that you want to see inflation decrease while increasing tariffs. That's the issue.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
You didn't get it. There is a purpose in making use of tariffs which is legitimate. The issue here is that you want to see inflation decrease while increasing tariffs. That's the issue.
Inflation will decrease once we start producing our own goods, also by reducing government regulation, and drill baby drill.

Tariffs are an effective bargaining tool and incentivizes domestic production. That's what you don't get.
 
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